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January Transfer Window (rumours + actuals)

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  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    edited January 23
    Only two new signings will be disappointing unless they’re top level players. Hoping for a CAM & LCB personally but wouldn’t mind a forward too.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,070
    One or two , I'm guessing CAM and a winger/striker that can take some of the load off of TC. LCB is difficult enough to recruit in the summer let alone Jan. 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,720
    Gribbo said:
    "Mr Idiot" - Goes straight into the book of favourite insults.
    "Please, Mr. Idiot was my father. Call me Fecking"
    Think I must've been beaten by a matter of seconds here  :D
  • YannTheMann
    YannTheMann Posts: 1,044
    I've got a feeling we're going to be underwhelmed with the incomings, interested to hear what everyone's got to say this evening 
  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 1,985
    I've got a feeling we're going to be underwhelmed with the incomings, interested to hear what everyone's got to say this evening 
    I reckon you may be underwhelmed by whoever comes in. Never mind. Stay positive. 
  • I'd rather two signings of real quality rather than 5 rubbish ones.

    Hopefully the players brought in are improvements on what we have rather than squad fillers

  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,915
    creative midfielder and a GK please !!
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,382
    “I’m pretty convinced that we will have one, if not two, in the building before the end of the window.”

    Says Ronnie Moore tomorrow
    That's about as likely as me mentioning my grand-parentage.

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,423
    I've got a feeling we're going to be underwhelmed with the incomings, interested to hear what everyone's got to say this evening 
    We’ve had plenty of players fail to meet high expectations, and plenty who were well above what was expected.

    I’m hopeful any signings can have a positive impact given we’re only after a couple rather than having to spread our budget between several players to plug multiple gaps.
  • Addickhead86
    Addickhead86 Posts: 1,152
    Gribbo said:
    "Mr Idiot" - Goes straight into the book of favourite insults.
    "Please, Mr. Idiot was my father. Call me Fecking"
    Think I must've been beaten by a matter of seconds here  :D
    I'm sorry! Always looks worse when the posts come out just below too :s
  • “I’m pretty convinced that we will have one, if not two, in the building before the end of the window.”

    Says Ronnie Moore tomorrow
    The club are delighted to announce the return of Danny Hylton and Dan Potts on six month contracts, keeping them in SE7 until the end of the season.
    "With a 12 months option!" 
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,006
    “I’m pretty convinced that we will have one, if not two, in the building before the end of the window.”

    Says Ronnie Moore tomorrow
    Ha ha, but I said this a few days ago. 5/6 out, 1/2 in. I cannot believe I might be right
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,013
    RedChaser said:
    "Pretty convinced" that it will happen before "the window shuts" seems near enough to be tacitly saying that absolutely nothing is imminent. Most likely to be next week and I would guess towards the later end of it before we see any real indications at all.

    Even Cawley hasn't been given/giving anything specific so you have to imagine we're not close to anything happening.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,201

    “I’m pretty convinced that we will have one, if not two, in the building before the end of the window.”

    Says Ronnie Moore tomorrow
    The club are delighted to announce the return of Danny Hylton and Dan Potts on six month contracts, keeping them in SE7 until the end of the season.
    "With a 12 months option!" 
    In their favour!
  • I was hoping with Jones and Rodwell at SL that they would be announcing a signing
  • MarcusH26 said:
    One or two , I'm guessing CAM and a winger/striker that can take some of the load off of TC. LCB is difficult enough to recruit in the summer let alone Jan. 

    Sean Roughan, 23 yrs old.  Lincoln. Decent. Out of contract in the summer.  Lincoln are small, offer them cash now
      LCB
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,320
    edited January 23
    MarcusH26 said:
    One or two , I'm guessing CAM and a winger/striker that can take some of the load off of TC. LCB is difficult enough to recruit in the summer let alone Jan. 

    Sean Roughan, 23 yrs old.  Lincoln. Decent. Out of contract in the summer.  Lincoln are small, offer them cash now
      LCB
    A lot of the time players will prefer to run their contract down than move in January. Will mean they can demand a better contract with there  being no transfer fee. So it’s not always as easy as just looking at players with 6 months left

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  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,506
    "In the building....."  Modern football wank-speak. Just say "he's signed" or "he's blown us out". 
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,516
    It's excuses for why we've not been good enough this season.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,811
    They weren’t opposed to loans prior to Nathan Jones coming in so it’s clearly a directive from the manager.

    For every Rak-Sakyi, Gallagher or Cullen there’s a Nile John, Juan Castillo, Chem Campbell, Slobodan Tedic, Louie Watson…
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    So, lets get this straight.

    Nathan Jones doesn't want us to sign exciting young talent from the likes of Palace (JRS) and Chelsea (Gallagher) because we are just improving players for other teams. And that we might only have them for half a season as they could get recalled in January.

    BUT

    He is happy for us to sign aging players like Hylton, or dull useless players like A. Campbell (who is a loanee - wtf ?) & Potts (on short term contracts that might not last a whole season....wtf ?).

    Not just double standards but utterly bewildering & non-sensical. 

    Someone make it make sense. 
    Loans are a gamble, the player might not fit in and we have had many who were not as good as we/they thought they were. They may not want to risk injury at a lower team, and they could be expensive.

    Old ex players, known to the manager may bring in experience, fill a specific role for the manager (ie coaching), may be cheaper and because they are known to manager are less risky.

    Will that do.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,070
    I understand to a degree a manager that works in a such a particular way as NJ that bringing in someone like Luke Berry that worked with him for years, understands the standards he expects and can still offer something on the pitch that makes sense. Potts and Hylton I don't especially understand especially with Potts's injury history.

    Allan Campbell just feels like a player on the downslope who was good a couple of years ago but has just completely lost it. We've signed too many of those in recent years both on loan and permanent.

    I get the whole Rodwell argument of not wanting to "block" academy talent , but the academy has got to be churning out a constant stream of talent that's good enough so that's a big pressure to have. If there isn't an outstanding academy player in a certain position then I've got no problem with a high level loan signing from a prem side. 
  • DubaiCAFC said:
    New midfielder coming in
    So this was nothing right?
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,463
    Roumen012 said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    New midfielder coming in
    So this was nothing right?
    Still close I am told. It is the one that Jones speaks of in his interview... Things take time!
  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Posts: 7,634
    They weren’t opposed to loans prior to Nathan Jones coming in so it’s clearly a directive from the manager.

    For every Rak-Sakyi, Gallagher or Cullen there’s a Nile John, Juan Castillo, Chem Campbell, Slobodan Tedic, Louie Watson…
    That’s the same principle for signing players permanently as well though, should they be stopped too?  For every Ramsey, Small and Lloyd Jones there’s Ahadme, Potts and Hylton.  
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,333
    So, lets get this straight.

    Nathan Jones doesn't want us to sign exciting young talent from the likes of Palace (JRS) and Chelsea (Gallagher) because we are just improving players for other teams. And that we might only have them for half a season as they could get recalled in January.

    BUT

    He is happy for us to sign aging players like Hylton, or dull useless players like A. Campbell (who is a loanee - wtf ?) & Potts (on short term contracts that might not last a whole season....wtf ?).

    Not just double standards but utterly bewildering & non-sensical. 

    Someone make it make sense. 
    Dear Bewildered,

    A manager will be given a budget.
    Loans cost money, may not work out, may come with strings attached as to playing time and position, can block youth team development leading to early departures which can impact future advancement of the team and profits from sales. They can also be recalled, which can be very frustrating as you are then left scratching around trying to find a replacement and team morale could drop.
    It won’t work all the time and if performance drops off the following season you will be sacked.

    Mature players will be moving down the leagues as they are no longer wanted by their clubs which reduces the risks listed. They are also a known quantity who can also offer younger players advice and support. Their experience is essential IMO when you have a lot of young players in your squad.

    Hylton was bought in mainly for coaching reasons. Potts was bought in because our defence had been non existent the previous season and looked a good stop gap until we could find better. A Campbell had a lot of Championship experience, was only 26(?) and on paper a good signing. Pity he wasn’t good on grass. Jones obviously thought he could get him back to his best, you can’t win everything.

    Overall I agree with Jones. 
    I would rather the budget be spent on keeping players like Jones and buying players, but still have an open mind on the possibilities of a loan if we don’t have a player of sufficient quality or a youth player that can step up.

    I hope this helps.