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Managerial sackings, comings and goings

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    fenaddick said:
    Took over when they were 7th, got 5 wins in 18 games which left them in 10th and is sacked 3 months into a two and a half year contract. What an appointment!
    Always felt like a sentimental one rather than a sensible one.

    WBA and Norwich are in danger of losing their yo-yo club tag!
    Once ex PL teams slip into midtable mediocrity in the Championship, it's hard to recover. You don't have the parachute money any more, but you still have some of the PL cost structure.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    edited April 22
    I'm really surprised Norwich haven't made a change yet 
    They have now, Johannes Hoff Thorup has gone. Jack Wilshire in temporary charge.
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,677
    I'm really surprised Norwich haven't made a change yet 
    They have now, Johannes Hoff Thorup has gone. Jack Wilshire in temporary charge.
    I'm not surprised - they've been a tough watch this season.

    If it hadn't been for Josh Sargent's goals they'd be in all sorts of strife.
  • JohnnyJoeyDeeDee
    JohnnyJoeyDeeDee Posts: 1,040
    I'm really surprised Norwich haven't made a change yet 
    They have now, Johannes Hoff Thorup has gone. Jack Wilshire in temporary charge.
    I'm not surprised - they've been a tough watch this season.

    If it hadn't been for Josh Sargent's goals they'd be in all sorts of strife.
    If we sacked a manager every time we lost to Millwall…….
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,677
    I'm really surprised Norwich haven't made a change yet 
    They have now, Johannes Hoff Thorup has gone. Jack Wilshire in temporary charge.
    I'm not surprised - they've been a tough watch this season.

    If it hadn't been for Josh Sargent's goals they'd be in all sorts of strife.
    If we sacked a manager every time we lost to Millwall…….
    I started watching the game yesterday (Charlton game on TV with Tel and Stubbers' commentary synced up on the computer, Spanners-Canaries game on tablet) but switched over to the Disney game when the Spanners went 2-up.

    Norwich were dreadful ... and they have been in most of the Norwich games I've watched this year (quite a few because I tend to have that on alongside Charlton). There's plenty of nice passing but it never goes anywhere, they don't create too many chances (when they do they can't score) and there's always a defensive balls-up around the corner.

    Normally the fans would be considering themselves starting next season with a six-point head-start because of their domination over the mob across the River Waveney over the last 20-odd years but I think even that would be in some doubt if Town can keep most of their first team together.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,035
    Would be surprised if Norwich keep Sargent and Borja Sainz in the summer. Sargent almost went to MLS last summer for £15m and I can't see that kind of offer being turned down if someone came back in for him. Sainz I wonder if a newly promoted side offers a decent fee for . 
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,616
    edited April 22
    I'm really surprised Norwich haven't made a change yet 
    They have now, Johannes Hoff Thorup has gone. Jack Wilshire in temporary charge.
    I'm not surprised - they've been a tough watch this season.

    If it hadn't been for Josh Sargent's goals they'd be in all sorts of strife.
    If we sacked a manager every time we lost to Millwall…….
    What is crazy about that stat is (with the exception of Bowyer) we did sack every manager who has lost against Millwall (in the 21st Century). Not after loosing to Millwall granted but it goes to show how many managers we went through since 2010.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,041
    Daily Mail reporting that Leeds are considering replacing Daniel Farke. Would be an interesting move. His PL record is poor and managing in the PL is very different to managing in the Championship. Would Leeds have a better chance of staying up with a manager with PL pedigree? And if so, who is out there with that pedigree?
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    Interesting move if they do - there have been a few managers who have struggled following promotion from the Championship, but it is because they aren't suited to the Premier League, or that the gap is too big?
  • matt88
    matt88 Posts: 465
    Both Farke and Parker have amazing records in the Champ and rubbish ones in the Prem. Can completely see why they would make the change given his previous experiences with Norwich, even if it's incredibly harsh on him.
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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,012
    fenaddick said:
    Daily Mail reporting that Leeds are considering replacing Daniel Farke. Would be an interesting move. His PL record is poor and managing in the PL is very different to managing in the Championship. Would Leeds have a better chance of staying up with a manager with PL pedigree? And if so, who is out there with that pedigree?
    Big Ange once he leaves Spurs............
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    That would be crazy. Yes Norwich were a yo-yo side under Farke, but since they sacked him they've slid down  to the Championship and stayed there.

    I can't think of a successful PL manager out there who would take the Leeds job, leaving instead a series of managers who all got sacked by PL clubs anyway.
  • WHAddick
    WHAddick Posts: 1,149
    Interesting move if they do - there have been a few managers who have struggled following promotion from the Championship, but it is because they aren't suited to the Premier League, or that the gap is too big?
    Surely it's got to be the gap/ player quality. Manager can't make a silk purse out of sows ear
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    fenaddick said:
    Daily Mail reporting that Leeds are considering replacing Daniel Farke. Would be an interesting move. His PL record is poor and managing in the PL is very different to managing in the Championship. Would Leeds have a better chance of staying up with a manager with PL pedigree? And if so, who is out there with that pedigree?
    good chat on Talk sport y/day on this topic .. turns out Farke's record is better than St Bielsa's .. Simon Jordan analysed spending patterns after promotions, both Leeds (and Norwich) spent little and suffered after promotions.
    Also playing 'attacking/kamikaze football' re: Southampton and Burnley (last season) .. gotta walk before trying to run in the Prem (or any Division)
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,012
    WHAddick said:
    Interesting move if they do - there have been a few managers who have struggled following promotion from the Championship, but it is because they aren't suited to the Premier League, or that the gap is too big?
    Surely it's got to be the gap/ player quality. Manager can't make a silk purse out of sows ear
    Bielsa got Leeds promoted to the PL and then they finished 9th. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,041
    Newport looking for a new manager, this one genuinely seems like a mutual agreement

    https://www.newport-county.co.uk/news/club-statement-jardim-leaves-newport-county-job-done
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,041
    QPR manager placed on gardening leave after reports he’s been holding talks with WBA

    https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/2025/april/29/club-statement-marti-cifuentes/
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,038
    fenaddick said:
    QPR manager placed on gardening leave after reports he’s been holding talks with WBA

    https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/2025/april/29/club-statement-marti-cifuentes/
    I'd not like to be a West Brom fan if this is true.  What has the guy done to allow this upgrade?

  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    fenaddick said:
    QPR manager placed on gardening leave after reports he’s been holding talks with WBA

    https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/2025/april/29/club-statement-marti-cifuentes/
    The Caretaker Manager's name is good, Xavi Calm.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    West Brom seem to burn through managers,won't be long before any parachute money runs out and they're struggling like Stoke / Cardiff 
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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,012
    fenaddick said:
    QPR manager placed on gardening leave after reports he’s been holding talks with WBA

    https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/2025/april/29/club-statement-marti-cifuentes/
    I'd not like to be a West Brom fan if this is true.  What has the guy done to allow this upgrade?

    QPR had finished 20th the year before, and when he came in they had only 8 points from 14 games. They'd lost 10 of those 14 games and then he only lost 10 of the remaining 32, he kept them up and this year has them in 15th so he's done a fairly good job there.

    Whether he's the man to get WBA promoted (as i'm sure is their aim) is another question.
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454
    Swansea City AFC is delighted to announce that Alan Sheehan has been appointed as the new head coach of the football club, following a highly successful spell as caretaker head coach. 
    https://www.swanseacity.com/news/alan-sheehan-appointed-head-coach-swansea-city
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454

    Shrewsbury Town are thrilled to announce head coach Michael Appleton has signed a new contract at the Croud Meadow.

    Michael will now build on the impressive work he has done as interim boss after putting pen to paper on a new two-year deal.

    Assistant head coach Richard O’Donnell has also committed his future to the club.

    https://www.shrewsburytown.com/news/2025/may/02/michael-appleton-signs-new-shrewsbury-deal/

  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    Is 5 points in 8 games 'impressive work'?
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    What's been his record since he joined ?
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,012
    What's been his record since he joined ?
    P8 W1 D2 L5

    Not great but they were already doomed and 14 points from safety when he came in.
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454

    Bristol Rovers can confirm that Iñigo Calderón has departed his position as Men’s first team Head Coach. 

    Miguel Llera, who has been assisting in the coaching department since March, has also left the Club.

    https://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/club-statement-inigo-calderon

  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,756
    edited May 4
    clive said:

    Bristol Rovers can confirm that Iñigo Calderón has departed his position as Men’s first team Head Coach. 

    Miguel Llera, who has been assisting in the coaching department since March, has also left the Club.

    https://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/club-statement-inigo-calderon

    While not surprising and probably the fans were calling for it. I always find it ridiculous when rookie ‘project’ managers aren’t even given a pre season and summer window to get in their players and to implement their ideas. I think about Edwards at Milwall and Jacko here. 

    A 10 year plus experienced manager, through that experience, will be able to hit the ground running far quicker.

    Mousinho at Portsmouth and Powell here really didn’t have that much of an impact on performances and results in their first ‘half’ season, but with a full summer behind them they both lead their clubs to promotion.

    If you get a rookie manager mid season, prepare to have an underwhelming start but trust your process that they’re the right man going forward.

    Rant over.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,035
    I thought Calderon was an interesting appointment and I didn't think they were too bad at The Valley (Josh Griffiths probably stopped it being a cricket score but they looked decent in possession) but he was the wrong man to try and save them whilst completely overhauling their style of play.  


  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    They weren't in the relegation places when he took over, and finished the season terribly, so no surprise Calderon went.