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POST-MATCH THREAD: Wycombe Wanderers v Charlton Athletic: Play Off 1st leg: Sun 11th May 2025 : KO

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  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,653
    Last night summed up league one, whoever came up with the phrase ‘The beautiful game’ needs shooting!
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,198
    Woke up feeling a bit deflated, but noticed that we are now joint favourites for promotion with Stockport. 
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,108
    No doubt about it, it was a difficult watch. If it hadn’t have been Charlton, I would’ve switched off and turned over to watch CountryFile. As we were going into the last few minutes I typed out a post saying we’d get a chance. But decided to delete it as I didn’t want to jinx it. Then Godden had the chance but it wasn’t to be. 

    In rugby, players can be cited for foul play after the final whistle for incidents that the referee missed. Shame you can’t do that in football otherwise Wycombe would be missing key players for Thursday. 

    Still all to play for. The players and the supporters need to bring their A game on Thursday. Let’s make it another night to remember. 

    COME ON YOU ADDICKS
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,885
    Solidgone said:
    It certainly made a difference when Small came on. It added a better threat from both wings. 
    Absolutely, he has to start for Watson on Thursday night.



    Yep.  Watson naturally sits about 20 yards deeper than Small which meant we wasnt a threat down the right.

    I also noticed that our players seem reluctant to pass to Watson. The ball could have gone out wide to watson twice in the first half but both times (once coventry, once doc, i think), both turned back and knocked it back towards the centre back
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,182
    _MrDick said:
    No doubt about it, it was a difficult watch. If it hadn’t have been Charlton, I would’ve switched off and turned over to watch CountryFile. As we were going into the last few minutes I typed out a post saying we’d get a chance. But decided to delete it as I didn’t want to jinx it. Then Godden had the chance but it wasn’t to be. 

    In rugby, players can be cited for foul play after the final whistle for incidents that the referee missed. Shame you can’t do that in football otherwise Wycombe would be missing key players for Thursday. 

    Still all to play for. The players and the supporters need to bring their A game on Thursday. Let’s make it another night to remember. 

    COME ON YOU ADDICKS
    You can do that but the referee didn’t miss either, he gave a yellow for one and a free kick for the other
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,182
     for those watching at home be grateful you were not there and thank your lucky stars your ear drums missed out on the 1986 MegaDeath album we were subjected to at half time. 

    The most bizarre show of half time music ever played, particularly given setting and fanbase. My ears are still badly ringing this morning. 

    Bizarre place Wycombe. 
    On Sky you could see their tunnel has “Rock n Roll Football” painted on the wall, clearly all a hangover from Ainsworth
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,833
    A truly horrible game of football Wycombe were fired up and were clearly going to be all over us like a rash. It worked to a degree but they needed to score first half when they were on it and when we got to half time 0-0 I felt comfortable we’d seen off their best.

    I don’t think we can absolve ourselves from the dire game of head tennis on display. Constantly clipping balls in the air to their two lamp posts at the back was never going to work and it was only the last 15 mins when we tried to get the ball down and stretch the pitch a little wider that it looked like we would step up a gear from there. 

    Small and especially Karoy I thought had a real positive impact when they come on, though in Small’s case I think it was the right decision starting with Watson to keep us more defensively compact 

    In the end, a little disappointed we didn’t nick one second half, though I would have took a draw beforehand. Wycombe clearly struggle with goals lately so now they have a game plan to frustrate and counter on Thursday. 

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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,290
    clive said:
    They’ve done well to get a highlights package out of it 
  • bromdog
    bromdog Posts: 131
    I think both managers just ended up out cancelling out each other’s tactics. Wycombe set up to press and be as horrible to play as we usually are, we sensed that, didn’t invite pressure and danger and just went long. A bit like the Stockport game away.

    Got no problem with that, Jones very happy with a goalless draw away I reckon. Will be a different kind of game at home and we will open up a bit more. Small back will be a big plus, Berry didn’t seem fit enough. Defence solid and Watson did his job. Roll on Thursday!
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,940
    Incidentally is anyone having issues accessing some threads on the forum? I see there is a thread at the top re display issues but ironically I can’t get on to that one.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,925
    What can be done to turn Tyreece into the player he is capable of becoming.
    He struggled again today.
    He is obviously a confidence player. If only we could inject the cocksure self-belief of Lyle Taylor or the presence and resilience of Yann into him.
    They did a number on him, cant see it being the same in the 2nd leg. 
  • O-Randy-Hunt
    O-Randy-Hunt Posts: 10,667
    After seeing the challenge on Ramsey I'm surprised our players didn't make more of a meal of it to the ref. A real cagey game where it was a case of just keep the ball as far away from your own goal as possible from both sides.

    I hope and I'm confident we the fans will play our part on Thursday and make it as hostile as possible for Wycombe. I feel we need to score as soon as possible though as they will come here and fight like beavers as kammy would say. 
  • 21cws
    21cws Posts: 109
    The valley pitch is definitely wider. Will benefit us Thursday. Edward’s throw ins reaching the penalty spot with ease yesterday.

    ugly game yesterday, everything lumped in the air, along with the ref stopping the game every 2 seconds. 

    Thursday will different!!!’ Cmonnnnn the boys!!!
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,925
     for those watching at home be grateful you were not there and thank your lucky stars your ear drums missed out on the 1986 MegaDeath album we were subjected to at half time. 

    The most bizarre show of half time music ever played, particularly given setting and fanbase. My ears are still badly ringing this morning. 

    Bizarre place Wycombe. 
    They were definitely pumping out the very loud shit music on purpose to drown out our singing. 
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,946
    Anderson not getting enough credit on here imo. Him and Small brought about a better shape and kept us further up the pitch. Docherty started to be more effective too. Solid defending throughout thankfully.
    Yup we started winning second balls when he came on thanks to his pressure. Which we hadn't really done all night 
  • kafka
    kafka Posts: 2,369
    Eric10 said:
    Some appalling behaviour from a few of our supporters tonight.

    A few people who found their seats occupied were threatening those in them with violence and hurling abuse at them.

    Ridiculously, this was happening at the back of the stadium by people who wanted to sit!

    First an old man hobbled to the back of the stand with his grandson supporting him. They found their seats taken and, instead of asking them to move, they IMMEDIATELY began shouting 'C*nts' at them over and over. The people moved, but several others got involved and politely informed them that, if they were sat at the back, they would be standing for 90 minutes. These people were also called c*nts for trying to be helpful.

    Subsequently, another old man arrived by himself and found his seat taken by a youngster.

    The young guy politely explained that people generally sit where they like at away games, but the old man was adamant that he wanted his seat. The youngster moved for him, but the old man still kept kicking off and was threatening to beat the young supporter up for having dared to sit in his seat in the first place.

    The youngster quipped back asking the old man if it was the first away game of his life. Ridiculously, the old man responded with 'Actually, it's the second away game I have been to! Wrexham the other week was the first away game I ever went to!'

    He didn't seem to realise that he was proving the youngster's point as, when others also asked if he would be fine standing for 90 minutes, he proudly boasted that this was his third game all season (he also went to Burton at home) and that he used to be a season ticket holder when we were in the Premier League, so he knows what it's like. It was reiterated that everybody in front of him would be standing, but he kept going on about how many seasons he had watched us at home in the Premier League, so he knew best.

    Queue kick-off and the pair of old men began kicking off, yelling at those around then to sit down and be respectful, since they had paid for tickets and deserved to be able to watch the match just like the rest of us.

    It was pointed out to them by those in front that, if they sat down, they wouldn't be able to see as the people in front of them would be stood up and so on as almost everybody was standing.

    They complained to the stewards to try and get everybody to sit, but the stewards had witnessed their earlier altercations and reminded them that they had been told to sit at the front if they wanted to sit down as neither allocated seating or seating itself was being enforced.

    The old man who was alone was a nightmare for the rest of the match. As well as constantly whining about having to stand, he was complaining that Charlton fans were singing and the drummer was drumming!

    Instead of accepting responsibility, he directed his anger at the youngster who was originally in his seat, constantly threatening to beat him up once they were out the ground.

    It was already a rather dull game, especially the first half, but having to endure 90 minutes of whining on top, made it an evening worse experience.

    It's came up many times before about how Valley Gold is overvalued and supporters who actually attend matches miss out over those that don't go. But seeing a guy who has been to three games in the past 18 years attending a sold out away end tonight really takes the biscuit.
    How the hell do people like this get enough loyalty points to get tickets? 

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  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,925
    edited May 12
    fenaddick said:
    Anderson was brilliant, as he often is in games like this. I wouldn’t start him on Thursday though, use his legs to torment them at the end again. Plus he’s fit enough that he’d be fine through any extra time too
    Him and chucks coming on after a hour, small to start which means they can't double up on TC

    Will be a different game all together. 
  • TheHerminator
    TheHerminator Posts: 752
    A few people have already said this, but Karoy was superb when he came on. Starting with when launched himself at a header he had no right to win that nearly knocked him out!
    He brought energy in to a non functioning midfield and showed a few moments of real class with some lovely touches and passes.

    He blows hot and cold but when playing well he's a superb asset in our midfield.

    If he were to find some consistency he'd play at Championship level for a long time I think.
  • TheHerminator
    TheHerminator Posts: 752
    shine166 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Anderson was brilliant, as he often is in games like this. I wouldn’t start him on Thursday though, use his legs to torment them at the end again. Plus he’s fit enough that he’d be fine through any extra time too
    Him and chucks coming on after a hour, small to start which means they can't double up on TC

    Will be a different game all together. 
    100% this. Imagine on 65 minutes, second leg so the legs are a bit sore prematurely and Karoy and Chuks enter the fray. Would be incredibly disheartening for a tired Wycombe midfield 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,879
    A truly horrible game of football Wycombe were fired up and were clearly going to be all over us like a rash. It worked to a degree but they needed to score first half when they were on it and when we got to half time 0-0 I felt comfortable we’d seen off their best.

    I don’t think we can absolve ourselves from the dire game of head tennis on display. Constantly clipping balls in the air to their two lamp posts at the back was never going to work and it was only the last 15 mins when we tried to get the ball down and stretch the pitch a little wider that it looked like we would step up a gear from there. 

    Small and especially Karoy I thought had a real positive impact when they come on, though in Small’s case I think it was the right decision starting with Watson to keep us more defensively compact 

    In the end, a little disappointed we didn’t nick one second half, though I would have took a draw beforehand. Wycombe clearly struggle with goals lately so now they have a game plan to frustrate and counter on Thursday. 
    Agreed, we can hardly complain about the primitive Wycombe football, when for most of the game we were doing exactly the same. 
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,838
    Seems to me that Karoy is often very good when he comes on as a sub, but less impactful when he starts - and it isn't a matter of energy, he's got a good engine. Not sure if it's psychological but it would be nice if he could play that well when he starts.
  • charente addick
    charente addick Posts: 3,810
    Looking at the Wycombe message board, I think it's quite telling that they thought the referee was good in complete contrast to the views here.

    They also seem to think that our post Xmas good form and large crowd will work against us which kind of defies logic. I do think some players (e.g. Coventry) suffered from nerves in the 1st half last night but I also think our coaching team will make sure that is long gone come Thursday.

    Expect us to go right at them from the off.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,442
    I think we need to be careful ahead of Thursday. The crowd is definitely going to work in our favour, so if I was Dodds I'd get them to put similar pressure on us from the off, and try to shut the crowd up - At least that's what I'd do.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    Last night summed up league one, whoever came up with the phrase ‘The beautiful game’ needs shooting!
    Summed up the officiating standard as well. How they did not have two sending offs is beyond me. I know he got a yellow but Kone's was a red every day of the week. It can still be reviewed if a clear refereeing error which it was. Ref was terrible even for League One.
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,838
    We've got to match them physically but essential that we do so without losing our heads. We certainly don't want any red cards on the night but I also guess that two yellows over the two legs means players miss the final - puts Doc at risk.
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,678
    CafcSCP said:
    Kone should have gone for that tackle on Ramsey.
    shame he was booked for it as I think he would have got a retrospective ban.
    Ref was dire.
    Absolutely daft rule that. He was a little prick all night