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Managerial sackings, comings and goings

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  • MrBurns
    MrBurns Posts: 1,285


    One of the finest managers this country has produced. He basically won the champions league with Chelsea and I would love to see him manage us one day 
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,906
    MrBurns said:


    One of the finest managers this country has produced. He basically won the champions league with Chelsea and I would love to see him manage us one day 
    MrBurns said:


    One of the finest managers this country has produced. He basically won the champions league with Chelsea and I would love to see him manage us one day 
    I’m not sure I agree with the one of the finest managers but I never got why he got so much stick as a manager I think he has done a decent job wherever he has been. And the clubs he manages don’t need to change their name unlike Rooney 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    I think he's been unfairly tarnished with the Gerrard and Rooney brush.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    Think it's the most I've been impressed with him as a manager.

    Before this season he'd:

    - Taken Derby from 6th to... 6th.  Despite having decent backing for good loans using his Chelsea contacts etc.

    - Took Chelsea from 3rd to 4th.  Got cut a lot of slack because of the transfer ban but they still had a CL squad, signed Kovacic, and had years of heavy academy investment to fall back on.

    - Got sacked halfway through the next season with the club in 9th.

    - Took over Everton mid-season with the club in 16th.  Finished 16th.

    - Got sacked the next season with the club in 19th.

    - Won 1 in 11 as caretaker at Chelsea.

    It was, at best, a very average record, and I wasn't particularly expecting much at Coventry given they were struggling under Mark Robins who had up until then don't very well.

    He's done very well though - given none of the 4 teams in the playoffs go into them in good form, Coventry have as good a chance as any to win them.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    I think he's been unfairly tarnished with the Gerrard and Rooney brush.
    Gerrard won something at least, albeit in a two team league.  Rooney has been far far worse than either of the other two.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    MarcusH26 said:
    Bit slow for them 
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    MrBurns said:


    One of the finest managers this country has produced. He basically won the champions league with Chelsea and I would love to see him manage us one day 
    you are joking right?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    MarcusH26 said:
    Not a surprise, as they've just had a pretty mediocre season. This is a rare Watford sacking where they didn't jump the gun prematurely.
  • DyerConsequences
    DyerConsequences Posts: 2,625
    edited May 6
    Impressed they lasted that long before giving him the boot. Third longest manager since 2008. Which may not sound that impressive, but he's their 23rd manager in that time period.
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Darrell Clarke has gone back to Bristol Rovers as Manager
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,778
    John Eustace left Blackburn when they were in the play offs because the Board refused to back him with purchases (players sold for £30m and next to nothing spent by comparison)  or extend his contract beyond the 12 months and joined Derby who were in the relegation zone and heading for League 2. Blackburn finished 7th and missed out on the play offs by two points, having picked up 15 points in 12 matches post Eustace (51 points in 34 games before he left). Derby, with Eustace at the helm, took 21 points from the same 12 matches (29 points in 34 games before he joined), finished 17th and two points above relegation.    

    We can argue about loyalty but that cuts both ways. Remember how Birmingham replaced Eustace with Wayne Rooney (two wins from 15 matches and career win percentage of 24.41%) and when the signs are that a club won't back a manager then the writing is on the wall. Both Blackburn and Derby will be in the Championship next season and it will be interesting to compare the summer purchases and success or failure of those clubs respective managers. 
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,127
    Not so useless Eustace  ;)
    (One for the oldies)
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    MarcusH26 said:

    Tom Cleverley was in charge of Watford for 14 months including an interim period and received a Rolex for recognition of his long service.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,778
    Xabi Alonso confirms that he is leaving Bayer Leverkusen
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,853
    hmm, now where could he possibly be going....
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,038
    MrOneLung said:
    hmm, now where could he possibly be going....
    Watford 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    MrOneLung said:
    hmm, now where could he possibly be going....
    Replacing Nathan Jones who is joining Cardiff
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    MrOneLung said:
    hmm, now where could he possibly be going....
    Replacing Nathan Jones who is joining Cardiff
    Don't rule it out. His brother speaks highly of his time with us 
  • Dansk_Red
    Dansk_Red Posts: 5,727
    Going to Real Madrid.
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  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,615
    Xabi Alonso confirms that he is leaving Bayer Leverkusen
    ........and hired Real Madrid's name manager and look there is Trent Alexander-Arnold who is joining
  • Dansk_Red
    Dansk_Red Posts: 5,727
    edited May 12
    Real Madrid manager leaving to coach Brazil.
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,299
    Dansk_Red said:
    Real Madrid manager leaving to coach Brazil.
    Be honest, you wasn't sure how to spell Ancelotti was you? :smile:
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,034
    Will be interesting to see how Leverkusen do without Alonso, they seem quite switched on as a club. ETH mentioned though which would be massive step backwards 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    MarcusH26 said:
    Will be interesting to see how Leverkusen do without Alonso, they seem quite switched on as a club. ETH mentioned though which would be massive step backwards 
    As ever with United managers since Ferguson, hard to know if he's bad or he's a decent manager who went into a messed up club.

    If he does go to Leverkusen they might want him to choose less of his own players though.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,038
    MarcusH26 said:
    Will be interesting to see how Leverkusen do without Alonso, they seem quite switched on as a club. ETH mentioned though which would be massive step backwards 
    He’s been linked with very high profile German job for a while, think it’s probably agent talk 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    Brazil appoint a non-Brazilian manager.

    I wonder how that is playing out in the local media and how it compares to England appointing non-English managers, especially Tuchal.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,034
    MrOneLung said:
    hmm, now where could he possibly be going....
    Tottenham.
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    MrOneLung said:
    hmm, now where could he possibly be going....
    Tottenham.
    No one can stop them !🤣 17th and oh so close to getting to 40 points. Marvellous!
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,012
    MarcusH26 said:
    Will be interesting to see how Leverkusen do without Alonso, they seem quite switched on as a club. ETH mentioned though which would be massive step backwards 
    Is he a bad manager though? Amorim is showing just how tough things are at United, and Ten Hag did at least win a couple of trophies. Also took Ajax to a CL semi final.

    Even Antony, who was widely thought to be the Premier League's worst ever signing is now looking like a top class player in La Liga. Obviously he wasn't worth 80m but he's clearly not the no hoper he looked at United.

    Personally i wouldn't dismiss anyone based on how they did at United.