One of my mates became a born again Christian. He used to be a bit of a scally, shall we say. But zealous doesn’t even do him justice when talking about him carrying out ‘god’s will’. He made millions from some land and gave it all to charity (he has 5 kids & several grandkids btw & lives in an ordinary house in Bolton) because god told him to in a vision. Fair play.
Next season there are 4 Championship clubs with parachute money, one is Leicester who have all sorts of FFP issues; one is Sheffield United who's parachute payments have just massively reduced having missed the jump straight back up and will need to sell.
There is a chance for a team without those parachute payments to go up. Why not us...
Or NJ can go to Cardiff and play Burton and Doncaster.
It isn't happening and if it did then I would question his decision making so much I would be happy he isn't here any more!
We have zero chance of going up. It will be a job very well done if we finish 15th
we will be in a relegation battle next year, hopefully successful but it will be a long old season
It is ridiculous given that most, if not everyone who's posted on this, agrees he'd be mad to leave us and go there.
However, having a manager who's stock is high is bound to result in speculation at a time of year when the managerial merry go round is revolving fastest.
In the unlikely event he was he tempted to leave though, for whoever, then as a Championship club we're a more attractive proposition for a better quality of candidate, so 'Wayne Rooney's Charlton Athletic' I can't see happening. I'm expecting it to still be Nathan Jones, but as SHG says, not with 100% certainty.
End of the day this squad needs major surgery just to stay up, if he’s not been promised the funds then it’s a hopeless task.
This is the key to any plans for his own career. He believed that he could improve the players and that his strategy would move the club forward. I think he got promotion earlier than even he expected. He has spoke numerous times about 'the project' being a long term plan. Well that may be the owners plans, but NJ seeks results and momentum (on or off the pitch).
Can he stay grounded, and will the owners plan AND budget, meet with his own views as being reasonable?
I don't doubt that he loves a challenge, but it needs to be reasonably achievable. The Championship is unforgiving and there are big spenders and established clubs aplenty. We will do well to stay up, regardless if budget, however a smaller budget proportionate to the competitors, will equate to a season-long struggle. Does that put fire in NJ's belly, or have him looking at another option, that he would love?
I suspect it will make many many more too. Until Cardiff appoint a new manager this will bubble under. I have little doubt that Jones is their target and why wouldn’t he be. He’s unlikely to make any public statements so until it’s resolved I think it’s comment worthy. As unlikely as it appears, there are none of us that are 100% certain of the outcome.
Trust me, he’s not going anywhere… except on holiday!
Not impossible he’s trying to put a bit of pressure on owners for more of a transfer kitty either
Two times now that budget has been mentioned, and our spokespeople said we would be looking to maneuver in the market sensibly.
On the other hand, Nathan Jones said to a fan that "we're fackin loaded".
Never a boring day at Charlton.
It's certainly a concern bearing in mind that last summer we hardly spent anything on transfer fees & just recruited those mainly out of contract. ( I'm trying to forget Gas )
He appeared happy with last year's transfer window and got the job done with what we got in. If we only spend what we need to and get results, that's good enough for me. I'm sure some fans would rather have us negotiate transfer fees upwards to satisfy their need to see the owners statement of intent, but we've already seen it haven't we? As a result, we're in the Championship now. Why doubt the owners wouldn't back him to keep us there?
Another snippet from my overheard conversation between my mate and an academy coach .. NJ is so focused on Charlton, he spent the week before the play off final sleeping at the training ground. Jones to Cardiff … Nah. Not having it
I'm actually struggling to think of a manager that has EVER dropped down a division having just been promoted? Has it happened before?
Given his previous experiences of jumping ship when in a good job, it would be absolutely mind boggling for Nathan Jones to take the Cardiff job. As we are only too aware getting out of League One is horrendously difficult, and to subject yourself to that again, having only just miraculously completed that task would take sado-masochism to a whole new level.
With Luton and Plymouth joining the likes of Stockport, Reading, Leyton Orient, Huddersfield, Bolton and Wycombe there is no doubt that it will be the dirtiest of dog fights getting out of that little lot, and for a manager that is undoubtedly ambitious to get back to the higher levels of the game, taking a backward step in your early 50's would be kamikaze to say the least,
Not forgetting the teams that have come up, Doncaster (who under McCann have been play offs before) Port vale ( who have money and a manager who has got out of this league before) Bradford ( who are a huge club at this level) and our boy Jacko’s Wimbledon who I don’t think will be up there. The point is, next season is not as clear and obvious now Blues and Wrexham have gone up, to go back down would be bonkers and although Jones is bonkers, I can’t see him walking away from the project at Charlton.
To put your minds at rest this is from a Cardiff supporter who seems to have good connections writing on a Cardiff forum talking about Jones
Its simple there only 4 Managers that where interviewed by the Club 1 Ian Evatt 2 Des Buckingham 3 Aaron Ramsey 4 Brian Barry Murphy……… no approach has or will be made for Nathan Jones
Important thing in the article is that he’s said he’s not actively pushing a move and we’re demanding hefty compensation. Scary thing though is nothing is close so it’s going to drag on and give us even less time to get a new manager in and get the squad ready for him if Jones does go
Is that what counts for journalism these days? Just paragraph after paragraph of regurgitated speculation and a quote from a year ago. Pathetic clickbait shite
Can't believe so many people are stressing about this. I don't think there's any chance he leaves.
If Cardiff were in the Championship with a decent owner then i think he'd probably be gone, but he's at a club in a higher division where everything is pretty much run exactly how he wants it. He's got the players he wants, we've employed the staff he wants, we're led to believe he has the final say on transfers etc.
No way he's upping and leaving to work for Vincent Tan. Not to mention Tan won't pay the compensation. Look at their last few managers.
McCarthy - out of work Morison - promoted from academy manager Hudson - promoted from backroom staff. Lamouchi - out of work Bulut - out of work Riza - promoted from backroom staff.
I think it's far more likely they get someone like Evatt or Selles.
🤐 stop this talk 😱 If Nathan Goes to Cardiff it's only to visit family and if sunny to relax in Barry island and get a sun TAN 😎
It really isn't worth biting your nails over just a week after the orgasmic Play off final.
We are back with clubs our size. All give your heads a wobble and embrace the challenge in a supportive way because we should all be feeling champion after being back after 5 years in the 2nd tier of English football.
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we will be in a relegation battle next year, hopefully successful but it will be a long old season
However, having a manager who's stock is high is bound to result in speculation at a time of year when the managerial merry go round is revolving fastest.
In the unlikely event he was he tempted to leave though, for whoever, then as a Championship club we're a more attractive proposition for a better quality of candidate, so 'Wayne Rooney's Charlton Athletic' I can't see happening. I'm expecting it to still be Nathan Jones, but as SHG says, not with 100% certainty.
Can he stay grounded, and will the owners plan AND budget, meet with his own views as being reasonable?
I don't doubt that he loves a challenge, but it needs to be reasonably achievable. The Championship is unforgiving and there are big spenders and established clubs aplenty. We will do well to stay up, regardless if budget, however a smaller budget proportionate to the competitors, will equate to a season-long struggle. Does that put fire in NJ's belly, or have him looking at another option, that he would love?
I'm sure some fans would rather have us negotiate transfer fees upwards to satisfy their need to see the owners statement of intent, but we've already seen it haven't we? As a result, we're in the Championship now. Why doubt the owners wouldn't back him to keep us there?
Its simple there only 4 Managers that where interviewed by the Club 1 Ian Evatt 2 Des Buckingham 3 Aaron Ramsey 4 Brian Barry Murphy……… no approach has or will be made for Nathan Jones
If Cardiff were in the Championship with a decent owner then i think he'd probably be gone, but he's at a club in a higher division where everything is pretty much run exactly how he wants it. He's got the players he wants, we've employed the staff he wants, we're led to believe he has the final say on transfers etc.
No way he's upping and leaving to work for Vincent Tan. Not to mention Tan won't pay the compensation. Look at their last few managers.
McCarthy - out of work
Morison - promoted from academy manager
Hudson - promoted from backroom staff.
Lamouchi - out of work
Bulut - out of work
Riza - promoted from backroom staff.
I think it's far more likely they get someone like Evatt or Selles.
If Nathan Goes to Cardiff it's only to visit family and if sunny to relax in Barry island and get a sun TAN 😎
It really isn't worth biting your nails over just a week after the orgasmic Play off final.
We are back with clubs our size. All give your heads a wobble and embrace the challenge in a supportive way because we should all be feeling champion after being back after 5 years in the 2nd tier of English football.
Let the honeymoon last a little longer.