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Nathan Jones speculation - Cawley says indications are no chance Jones going to Cardiff (p20)

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  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,577
    Rossman92 said:
    Cheers rich! Can we close this thread now?
    Leave it open there'll be another rumour on the way soon.
  • Smithy
    Smithy Posts: 1,023
    Thank god. Looking forward to doing this again in 3 months when Cardiff sack another manager. 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,003
    Well I heard that he's definitely gone and the replacement at Charlton will be none other than Brian Clough,  giving his instructions and team talks via a Ouija Board. Nailed on.

    This IS the "absolute nonsense" thread right?!
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,360
    Belv said:
    https://x.com/DarrenOWitcoop/status/1929472434840756597?t=yRXxUDbgb3j5jPnTujZZLg&s=19

    Let's see what the other source now has to say as well and if he back peddles as shamelessly as that.

    Cawley as reliable as it gets, but I'll still worry a bit until Cardiff appoint someone.

    Chris Wilder interviewed here and agreed to join before Sheffield United heard the news and took him. Never know what could change. 
    Not quite the same. 
    It's the same in the sense that the only thing in life for sure is that nothing is for sure. We were told he would be our next manager within hours he wasn't. Chris Wilder then said himself he was going to sign until they came in. 

    "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" Tan might read the backlash/disappointment and think he needs to try and pay up. Jones may ponder it today and change his mind.

    I'll celebrate when they appoint someone or Jones/the club assure us. The Cardiff noise sounded too confident for my liking.
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    edited June 2
    @TheBear1927 Rich Cawley is a journalist who reports on matters Charlton and other London clubs who's contacts are good and who has earned our trust being a reliable source of information over a number of years. Until Cardiff actually name a new manager, what he says is about as close to confirmation as we could hope to hear. 
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,770
    edited June 2
    Not only do Cardiff need a manager , looks like the also need some decent local sports journalists. 😵‍💫
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,015
    Belv said:
    https://x.com/DarrenOWitcoop/status/1929472434840756597?t=yRXxUDbgb3j5jPnTujZZLg&s=19

    Let's see what the other source now has to say as well and if he back peddles as shamelessly as that.

    Cawley as reliable as it gets, but I'll still worry a bit until Cardiff appoint someone.

    Chris Wilder interviewed here and agreed to join before Sheffield United heard the news and took him. Never know what could change. 
    Not quite the same. 
    It's the same in the sense that the only thing in life for sure is that nothing is for sure. We were told he would be our next manager within hours he wasn't. Chris Wilder then said himself he was going to sign until they came in. 

    "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" Tan might read the backlash/disappointment and think he needs to try and pay up. Jones may ponder it today and change his mind.

    I'll celebrate when they appoint someone or Jones/the club assure us. The Cardiff noise sounded too confident for my liking.
    Only confident because they thought Nathan couldn’t possibly choose Charlton over Cardiff … WRONG
  • Diebythesword
    Diebythesword Posts: 300
    Fair play to rich, who by the looks of it isn’t even being paid to share this info anymore (?)
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,034
    I love that the Witcoop journo guy is getting called out.

    Laughably he's now trying to claim he was only "reporting the facts" despite the only facts being that Jones likes Cardiff and once said he'd like to manage them.

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  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,759
    edited June 2
    https://x.com/DarrenOWitcoop/status/1929472434840756597?t=yRXxUDbgb3j5jPnTujZZLg&s=19

    Let's see what the other source now has to say as well and if he back peddles as shamelessly as that.

    Cawley as reliable as it gets, but I'll still worry a bit until Cardiff appoint someone.

    Chris Wilder interviewed here and agreed to join before Sheffield United heard the news and took him. Never know what could change. 
    You seem to be desperate for this to happen . What more does it take other than him to come back from his holiday and hold a press conference to say he's not leaving , for you to get that he's not going to Cardiff?
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,176
    thenewbie said:
    Well I heard that he's definitely gone and the replacement at Charlton will be none other than Brian Clough,  giving his instructions and team talks via a Ouija Board. Nailed on.

    This IS the "absolute nonsense" thread right?!
    We'll need to employ someone to punch the players in the face on his behalf as well then
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,787
    edited June 2
    That’s why you don’t trust next manager odds moves. A bit of hysteria takes you a long way. Thanks Cawley for returning a bit of sanity to this place.
  • scabbyhorse
    scabbyhorse Posts: 2,543
    https://x.com/DarrenOWitcoop/status/1929472434840756597?t=yRXxUDbgb3j5jPnTujZZLg&s=19

    Let's see what the other source now has to say as well and if he back peddles as shamelessly as that.

    Cawley as reliable as it gets, but I'll still worry a bit until Cardiff appoint someone.

    Chris Wilder interviewed here and agreed to join before Sheffield United heard the news and took him. Never know what could change. 
    Other source? You mean the one who is about as reliable as a ashtray on a motorcycle?
  • Belv
    Belv Posts: 836
    edited June 2
    Belv said:
    https://x.com/DarrenOWitcoop/status/1929472434840756597?t=yRXxUDbgb3j5jPnTujZZLg&s=19

    Let's see what the other source now has to say as well and if he back peddles as shamelessly as that.

    Cawley as reliable as it gets, but I'll still worry a bit until Cardiff appoint someone.

    Chris Wilder interviewed here and agreed to join before Sheffield United heard the news and took him. Never know what could change. 
    Not quite the same. 
    It's the same in the sense that the only thing in life for sure is that nothing is for sure. We were told he would be our next manager within hours he wasn't. Chris Wilder then said himself he was going to sign until they came in. 

    "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" Tan might read the backlash/disappointment and think he needs to try and pay up. Jones may ponder it today and change his mind.

    I'll celebrate when they appoint someone or Jones/the club assure us. The Cardiff noise sounded too confident for my liking.
    What noise? Some of their fans on social media?

    A questionable journalist hinted that Jones may be their first choice and the whole thing blew up, there was literally nothing else to suggest that A) The club had been approached, B ) Any talks had taken place and C) He even was their number 1 target.

    The very reputable Rich Cawley who has a 95%+ SR on all things Charlton has said it's not happening, short of the club coming out and saying it (Which they won't, especially if it was all nonsense) that's a good as it's going to get. 
  • TheHerminator
    TheHerminator Posts: 752
    Jesus CL loves a melt down. This one is up there for me
  • Dannoo_86
    Dannoo_86 Posts: 728
    Jones 6/1 now 
  • Dannoo_86
    Dannoo_86 Posts: 728
    Des Buckingham is the new fav 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,360
    https://x.com/DarrenOWitcoop/status/1929472434840756597?t=yRXxUDbgb3j5jPnTujZZLg&s=19

    Let's see what the other source now has to say as well and if he back peddles as shamelessly as that.

    Cawley as reliable as it gets, but I'll still worry a bit until Cardiff appoint someone.

    Chris Wilder interviewed here and agreed to join before Sheffield United heard the news and took him. Never know what could change. 
    You seem to be desperate for this to happen . What more does it take other than him to come back from his holiday and hold a press conference to say he's not leaving , for you to get that he's not going to Cardiff?
    Yep, I am desperate for something to happen that will negatively impact my club.

    A lifelong running gag. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,455
    Dannoo_86 said:
    Jones 6/1 now 
    Sympathise with any the poor sods that have lost money bringing the odds down in the first place

    These journalists who "claim" to be in the know are a shit stain

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  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,726
    Surely no-one really thought this was a go-er? I know we have been beaten down over time by relentless bad news but Jones leaving to go to Cardiff now would have been one of the strangest moves I've seen.

    If we get relegated and Cardiff go straight back up then i could see him going there next summer but now makes zero sense at all.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,812
    edited June 2
    shine166 said:
    1/2 Now with most bookies.
    Just searched to see if anyone has odds up for our next manager and all I saw was when Jones was appointed for us he was 1/2 “which implies a 66% chance of it happening”….gulp
    Have we suddenly decided that bookies are in the know and made a choice to completely ignore the fact that odds are dictated by where the money is being placed?  
    Have we suddenly ignored the fact that bookies love nothing better than to shorten managers to unrealistic odds i.e. relevant to the chances of that individual actually signing on the dotted line? Try phoning them up, asking for £10,000 at the advertised price of 10/1 only for them to let you have £100 on at that price and then to cut it to 2/1. Then, following all those tenners that they've allowed at 2/1 he's then 1/2. And they can take even more at that price AND offer Ramsey at 6/4 so even if one of them gets the job they make a profit. But guess what happens next? Another left field candidate is announced and his odds plummet to 1/2 and all those "in the know" can lump on again.

    I'm not saying that Jones isn't a candidate. What I am saying is that the odds on offer are not representative of his chances of getting the job. Because if he was that certain they wouldn't even be offering a price on him. 

    Edit - And no sooner had I typed that than Jones is 6/1 and fifth favourite and Ramsey is 3/1. Fill your boots, for the benefit of those nice bookies, on Buckingham at 2/5 but try making a profit having already backed Jones at 1/2 or even Ramsey at 6/4.
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,509
    Dannoo_86 said:
    Des Buckingham is the new fav 
    Buckingham been fav since last Friday when Evett asked for more time … that was the hold up over the weekend nothing to do with NJ 
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,759
    https://x.com/DarrenOWitcoop/status/1929472434840756597?t=yRXxUDbgb3j5jPnTujZZLg&s=19

    Let's see what the other source now has to say as well and if he back peddles as shamelessly as that.

    Cawley as reliable as it gets, but I'll still worry a bit until Cardiff appoint someone.

    Chris Wilder interviewed here and agreed to join before Sheffield United heard the news and took him. Never know what could change. 
    You seem to be desperate for this to happen . What more does it take other than him to come back from his holiday and hold a press conference to say he's not leaving , for you to get that he's not going to Cardiff?
    Yep, I am desperate for something to happen that will negatively impact my club.

    A lifelong running gag. 
    Then calm down and stop flapping. chill , he's going nowhere. 

  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,360
    Belv said:
    Belv said:
    https://x.com/DarrenOWitcoop/status/1929472434840756597?t=yRXxUDbgb3j5jPnTujZZLg&s=19

    Let's see what the other source now has to say as well and if he back peddles as shamelessly as that.

    Cawley as reliable as it gets, but I'll still worry a bit until Cardiff appoint someone.

    Chris Wilder interviewed here and agreed to join before Sheffield United heard the news and took him. Never know what could change. 
    Not quite the same. 
    It's the same in the sense that the only thing in life for sure is that nothing is for sure. We were told he would be our next manager within hours he wasn't. Chris Wilder then said himself he was going to sign until they came in. 

    "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" Tan might read the backlash/disappointment and think he needs to try and pay up. Jones may ponder it today and change his mind.

    I'll celebrate when they appoint someone or Jones/the club assure us. The Cardiff noise sounded too confident for my liking.
    What noise? Some of their fans on social media?

    A questionable journalist hinted that Jones may be their first choice and the whole thing blew up, there was literally nothing else to suggest that A) The club had been approached, B ) Any talks had taken place and C) He even was their number 1 target.

    The very reputable Rich Cawley who has a 95%+ SR on all things Charlton has said it's not happening, short of the club coming out and saying it (Which they won't, especially if it was all nonsense) that's a good as it's going to get. 
    We can pretend there wasn't smoke here, but the fact Cawley tweeted about it, and the reaction to it says it all.

    There was a genuine concern, and credible media outlets were running with this story, thankfully, it doesn't seem like Cardiff have the capacity to push for it
  • scabbyhorse
    scabbyhorse Posts: 2,543

    Expect Buckingham to be announced as Cardiff’s manager. I can only imagine the delay is because he might have got cold feet over the weekend at the thought of working with Vincent Tan. So, they throw Nathan Jones’s name into the mix to nudge him into signing. Don’t forget — Tan and the Cardiff board promised fans an appointment would be made by the end of May!


  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    Surely no-one really thought this was a go-er? I know we have been beaten down over time by relentless bad news but Jones leaving to go to Cardiff now would have been one of the strangest moves I've seen.

    If we get relegated and Cardiff go straight back up then i could see him going there next summer but now makes zero sense at all.
    Have you never heard the saying about your heart ruling your head when making decisions? No one has said it made any sense. That was never the debating point.  Not for a minute did I think he'd want to leave Charlton, but I could believe he'd want to go to manage Cardiff, because he's said as much publicly before. 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,360
    https://x.com/DarrenOWitcoop/status/1929472434840756597?t=yRXxUDbgb3j5jPnTujZZLg&s=19

    Let's see what the other source now has to say as well and if he back peddles as shamelessly as that.

    Cawley as reliable as it gets, but I'll still worry a bit until Cardiff appoint someone.

    Chris Wilder interviewed here and agreed to join before Sheffield United heard the news and took him. Never know what could change. 
    You seem to be desperate for this to happen . What more does it take other than him to come back from his holiday and hold a press conference to say he's not leaving , for you to get that he's not going to Cardiff?
    Yep, I am desperate for something to happen that will negatively impact my club.

    A lifelong running gag. 
    Then calm down and stop flapping. chill , he's going nowhere. 

    No one is flapping. This is the Nathan Jones speculation thread, there was Nathan Jones speculation, I shared my thoughts on it. That's it. 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,736
    Foxycafc said:
    That moron never had a clue. Cannot believe some of the panicking on here and twitter over some total no-mark's bollocks tweet 😂
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