By the sound of things its Palace's own fault, as there is something the owners can do with their shares to avoid the rules.
Its what has allowed other clubs to compete in Europe with multi-clubs
Ironically there is a deadline when you've got to move the shares, its a sweeping under the rug type exercise so pointless
Only Palace's owner didn't do it by the deadline which is the issue, because he didn't think they'd get into Europe
I love hearing Simon Jordan (on talksport) today. What about Lyon (like they are going to be affected by this 🤣)?
I wonder if an owner of multi-clubs has to do the same with the shares at both sides.
So rather than it just being Girona, its Man City as well that the owners need to put their shares into holding... Or whatever it is
Lyon had more of a chance of ending up in Europe, so wonder if Teskor complied before the deadline with them.
Edit: Seems I'm talking bullshit... the rules seemingly state: "No individual or legal entity may have control or influence over more than one club participating in a UEFA club competition", so in Teskor's case... That one eligible club is Lyon
By the sound of things its Palace's own fault, as there is something the owners can do with their shares to avoid the rules.
Its what has allowed other clubs to compete in Europe with multi-clubs
Ironically there is a deadline when you've got to move the shares, its a sweeping under the rug type exercise so pointless
Only Palace's owner didn't do it by the deadline which is the issue, because he didn't think they'd get into Europe
I love hearing Simon Jordan (on talksport) today. What about Lyon (like they are going to be affected by this 🤣)?
I wonder if an owner of multi-clubs has to do the same with the shares at both sides.
So rather than it just being Girona, its Man City as well that the owners need to put their shares into holding... Or whatever it is
Lyon had more of a chance of ending up in Europe, so wonder if Teskor complied before the deadline with them.
Edit: Seems I'm talking bullshit... the rules seemingly state: "No individual or legal entity may have control or influence over more than one club participating in a UEFA club competition", so in Teskor's case... That one eligible club is Lyon
If two or more clubs fail to meet the criteria aimed at ensuring the integrity of the competition, only one of them may be admitted to a UEFA club competition, in accordance with the following criteria (applicable in descending order) with the exception of the scenarios set out in Paragraph 5.04 and Paragraph 5.05:
the club which qualifies on sporting merit for the most prestigious UEFA club competition (i.e., in descending order: UEFA Champions League, UEFA Europa League or UEFA Conference League);
the club which was ranked highest in the domestic championship giving access to the relevant UEFA club competition;
the club whose association is ranked highest in the access list (see Annex A).
Lyon wouldn't have the issue since they beat C.Palace on point 2 (though I guess the English FA is ranked higher than the French FA) 🤔
Obviously we are all extremely biased in this particular instance but there is an important issue going on here and a PL club being told to do one should help put paid to people owning, or having significant stakes in, more than one club
Apparently they had to put the year they were founded on the application form. They put 1861 which was found to be clear bullshit and now they’re banned
I imagine what they'll do is have Parish or someone buy out Textor. But I really hope they've fucked it, paid all their squad European football bonuses and wage rises etc already, and then have none of the money and glamour for it, go bust, get kicked out of the league entirely, and they bulldoze Smellhurst immediately and turn it into Surrey's largest Sainsbury's.
Apparently they have 11 days to find, and complete on, a buyer for his shares to comply to the rules
So he will just sell to one of his kids or wife or something I imagine.
That’s still a vested interest.
Sure but other owners get around the rules by moving the clubs into a bare trust. Surely they or family remain beneficiaries of the trust so still a vested interest. What's the difference except one is obfuscated a bit more.
Apparently they have 11 days to find, and complete on, a buyer for his shares to comply to the rules
So he will just sell to one of his kids or wife or something I imagine.
That’s still a vested interest.
Sure but other owners get around the rules by moving the clubs into a bare trust. Surely they or family remain beneficiaries of the trust so still a vested interest. What's the difference except one is obfuscated a bit more.
Apparently they have 11 days to find, and complete on, a buyer for his shares to comply to the rules
So he will just sell to one of his kids or wife or something I imagine.
That’s still a vested interest.
Sure but other owners get around the rules by moving the clubs into a bare trust. Surely they or family remain beneficiaries of the trust so still a vested interest. What's the difference except one is obfuscated a bit more.
The ‘bare trust’ thing is the issue. They missed the deadline to do that by 2 months or so
would imagine potentially owners will be swooping, but you’d imagine they would want to pay cut price as he’s desperate
They have to make an example of them. There is a loophole (bare trust?), but they missed the deadline. There’s no point in having these rules if they can now find a way around them. We don’t want the Surrey Ultras bunking school and embarrassing our country in Europe anyway !
Apparently they have 11 days to find, and complete on, a buyer for his shares to comply to the rules
So he will just sell to one of his kids or wife or something I imagine.
That’s still a vested interest.
Sure but other owners get around the rules by moving the clubs into a bare trust. Surely they or family remain beneficiaries of the trust so still a vested interest. What's the difference except one is obfuscated a bit more.
The ‘bare trust’ thing is the issue. They missed the deadline to do that by 2 months or so
would imagine potentially owners will be swooping, but you’d imagine they would want to pay cut price as he’s desperate
I’m not sure he’s desperate - he owns 45%, valued at about £360m. It’ll still be worth that even if they’re don’t get into Europe, more if they do, although how much is questionable if it’s a one off, which it most likely is. So why sell at a discount? If the other owners are desperate for Europe, he’d demand a premium.
Apparently they have 11 days to find, and complete on, a buyer for his shares to comply to the rules
So he will just sell to one of his kids or wife or something I imagine.
That’s still a vested interest.
Sure but other owners get around the rules by moving the clubs into a bare trust. Surely they or family remain beneficiaries of the trust so still a vested interest. What's the difference except one is obfuscated a bit more.
The ‘bare trust’ thing is the issue. They missed the deadline to do that by 2 months or so
would imagine potentially owners will be swooping, but you’d imagine they would want to pay cut price as he’s desperate
I’m not sure he’s desperate - he owns 45%, valued at about £360m. It’ll still be worth that even if they’re don’t get into Europe, more if they do, although how much is questionable if it’s a one off, which it most likely is. So why sell at a discount? If the other owners are desperate for Europe, he’d demand a premium.
Sorry, i meant that prospective owners would see it as a 'desperate situation' in the sense of sorting the issue in order to get European football - Presumably all he would have to do is sell c15-20%
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It needs to be fully investigated 🔎
When they return the fa cup ..... will be the moment to confirm and reveal an official - Case closed.
They just can't be trusted
Its what has allowed other clubs to compete in Europe with multi-clubs
Ironically there is a deadline when you've got to move the shares, its a sweeping under the rug type exercise so pointless
Only Palace's owner didn't do it by the deadline which is the issue, because he didn't think they'd get into Europe
If you're told to submit taxes by 30th March and you wait until 16th April, will they just let it slide?
So rather than it just being Girona, its Man City as well that the owners need to put their shares into holding... Or whatever it is
Lyon had more of a chance of ending up in Europe, so wonder if Teskor complied before the deadline with them.
Edit: Seems I'm talking bullshit... the rules seemingly state: "No individual or legal entity may have control or influence over more than one club participating in a UEFA club competition", so in Teskor's case... That one eligible club is Lyon
Article 5.02
If two or more clubs fail to meet the criteria aimed at ensuring the integrity of the competition, only one of them may be admitted to a UEFA club competition, in accordance with the following criteria (applicable in descending order) with the exception of the scenarios set out in Paragraph 5.04 and Paragraph 5.05:
the club which qualifies on sporting merit for the most prestigious UEFA club competition (i.e., in descending order: UEFA Champions League, UEFA Europa League or UEFA Conference League);
the club which was ranked highest in the domestic championship giving access to the relevant UEFA club competition;
the club whose association is ranked highest in the access list (see Annex A).
Lyon wouldn't have the issue since they beat C.Palace on point 2 (though I guess the English FA is ranked higher than the French FA) 🤔
Palace get to play in Turkey and Italy and the Palace Ultras spread fear across the continent.
As Basil Fawlty would have said - there is a God.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/jun/05/crystal-palace-europe-place-uefa-rejects-owners-blind-trust-move?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Sure but other owners get around the rules by moving the clubs into a bare trust. Surely they or family remain beneficiaries of the trust so still a vested interest. What's the difference except one is obfuscated a bit more.
would imagine potentially owners will be swooping, but you’d imagine they would want to pay cut price as he’s desperate