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Palace and Europe ?

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  • Chizz said:
    MrOneLung said:
    I know it is Palace, but really snidey by Forest

    Nonsense.  Remember what happened in 1991?  

    Palace's best-ever top-flight season came in 1990–91, when they 'challenged' for the title, but fell short, finishing in third place behind champions Arsenal and runners-up Liverpool to achieve the club's highest league finish to date. Palace were denied a place in Europe because although the ban on English clubs following the Heysel Stadium disaster had now been lifted, it resulted in England being unranked in European competitions which meant there was only one place available in the UEFA Cup, and this went to Liverpool rather than Palace. 

    Palace screamed, threw their toys out of their pram and threatened court action against UEFA, Liverpool, the Football League... who knows?  

    If you think that Forest have done the wrong thing by writing to UEFA for clarification of their rules, then Palace's behaviour following the lifting of the Heysel ban was much worse, much more petulant and much more "snidey". 
    Losing out on a place in Europe to the team who got everyone banned must've stung a bit.
  • Chizz said:
    MrOneLung said:
    I know it is Palace, but really snidey by Forest

    Nonsense.  Remember what happened in 1991?  

    Palace's best-ever top-flight season came in 1990–91, when they 'challenged' for the title, but fell short, finishing in third place behind champions Arsenal and runners-up Liverpool to achieve the club's highest league finish to date. Palace were denied a place in Europe because although the ban on English clubs following the Heysel Stadium disaster had now been lifted, it resulted in England being unranked in European competitions which meant there was only one place available in the UEFA Cup, and this went to Liverpool rather than Palace. 

    Palace screamed, threw their toys out of their pram and threatened court action against UEFA, Liverpool, the Football League... who knows?  

    If you think that Forest have done the wrong thing by writing to UEFA for clarification of their rules, then Palace's behaviour following the lifting of the Heysel ban was much worse, much more petulant and much more "snidey". 
    Losing out on a place in Europe to the team who got everyone banned must've stung a bit.
    Diddums
  • It did for Everton!
  • If it means palace don’t get into Europe, I’ll happily write a letter as well 
  • YTS1978 said:
    It did for Everton!
    Going off topic, but that Everton side would have been serious contenders for the European Cup.
  • Personally I hope they play.
    not sure they have a squad that could cope with Europe and a premier league season 😉
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  • https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/jun/12/woody-johnson-bid-john-textor-crystal-palace-shares-uefa-delays-decision

    So the current NY Jets owner and Trump's former ambassador to the UK has made an offer to buy out Textor 
  • That's a shame
  • Drogheda United who won the FAI Cup in November to qualify for the conference league Q2 are part of a multi club ownership group along with Walsall and Silkeborg in Denmark have just been informed they will not be able to take part in Europe as Silkeborg also qualified. I dont know if that is indicative of anything for Palace.

    They are appealing to CAS but its not looking likely.
  • MarcusH26 said:
    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/jun/12/woody-johnson-bid-john-textor-crystal-palace-shares-uefa-delays-decision

    So the current NY Jets owner and Trump's former ambassador to the UK has made an offer to buy out Textor 
    Oh this would be superb. The guy is nuts. 
  • MarcusH26 said:
    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/jun/12/woody-johnson-bid-john-textor-crystal-palace-shares-uefa-delays-decision

    So the current NY Jets owner and Trump's former ambassador to the UK has made an offer to buy out Textor 
    Hee hee, he said Woody Johnson.
  • sam3110 said:
    el-pietro said:
    Drogheda United who won the FAI Cup in November to qualify for the conference league Q2 are part of a multi club ownership group along with Walsall and Silkeborg in Denmark have just been informed they will not be able to take part in Europe as Silkeborg also qualified. I dont know if that is indicative of anything for Palace.

    They are appealing to CAS but its not looking likely.
    Have lost their appeal and been kicked out: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cwyqjl9zpw8o
    Would be incredibly difficult for them to then not kick Palace out on the same terms, without looking shady as fuck
    Drogheda one is interesting because they actually qualified first of the two clubs with the same owner so it’s slightly different from Palace
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  • UEFA would never make such an unpopular decision (unpopular outside of this forum), they don’t have the cajones. 

    Palace will be in Europe next season, we’ve just gotta hope all this palaver ends up with them crashing out with a whimper. 
  • JohnBoyUK said:
    I would piss my pants with glee if they get booted out lol
    Delighted with this sentiment, but aren’t you a Spurs fan? Has Charlton life managed to brainwash a dislike for Palace into you?
  • sam3110 said:
    el-pietro said:
    Drogheda United who won the FAI Cup in November to qualify for the conference league Q2 are part of a multi club ownership group along with Walsall and Silkeborg in Denmark have just been informed they will not be able to take part in Europe as Silkeborg also qualified. I dont know if that is indicative of anything for Palace.

    They are appealing to CAS but its not looking likely.
    Have lost their appeal and been kicked out: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cwyqjl9zpw8o
    Would be incredibly difficult for them to then not kick Palace out on the same terms, without looking shady as fuck
    It's not quite the same though. The same group (Trivela) own 100% of Drogheda and 80% of Silkeborg, so are the majority shareholder of both clubs and clearly there is a conflict.

    Textor isn't a majority shareholder at Palace and doesn't have the final say on any decisions.
  • Croydon said:
    It’s a win-win in my opinion.

    If they’re allowed to play, it’ll always be tarnished and there’s a reasonable chance that playing in Europe will negatively affect their league performances too.

    If they’re kicked out, there’ll be a lot of angry virgins in Surrey vowing to do something about it, like make a flag, or sing a song.

    There's no win-win. Them being in Europe won't be tarnished at all, they'll still be there earning the £££ and enjoying the European away days. The Premier League is so fcked these days that there's no way they go down, even if they struggle, as the promoted sides will come straight back down again without a whimper.

    The only good outcome for anyone here is if they aren't allowed in.
    Well, that’s fine if that’s how you want to look at it.
    In my view, this whole drama they’re having around being allowed in or not is a silver lining to the ghastly cloud of the pyjama wearing gimps winning the FA Cup.
    When they actually won it, I wouldn’t have dreamed they’d have to go through such hand-wringing, so I’m viewing it as a positive.
    If you want to be miserable about it, that’s your call.

    Having said all that, them being chucked out is my preferred outcome! 😎
  • fenaddick said:
    The main thing that should be taken from this is that multi club ownership is awful and shouldn't be allowed
    Should have been banned after the shenanigans the Pozzos did at Watford with the likes of Abdi and Fernando Foresteri 
  • Croydon said:
    It’s a win-win in my opinion.

    If they’re allowed to play, it’ll always be tarnished and there’s a reasonable chance that playing in Europe will negatively affect their league performances too.

    If they’re kicked out, there’ll be a lot of angry virgins in Surrey vowing to do something about it, like make a flag, or sing a song.

    There's no win-win. Them being in Europe won't be tarnished at all, they'll still be there earning the £££ and enjoying the European away days. The Premier League is so fcked these days that there's no way they go down, even if they struggle, as the promoted sides will come straight back down again without a whimper.

    The only good outcome for anyone here is if they aren't allowed in.
    I can't see the prem relegation being so simple next year.
    Leeds and Burnley have a decent chance of survival while sunderland certainly won't roll over like the three that went down this season.
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