The Prodigy, Pulp, Rod Stewart, proper artists with timeless hits. Artists that are still listened to 30+ years on, and will carry on being listened to. Actual artists.
Kneecap & Bob Vylan, dogshit that won't be played in 30-40 years from now, and are getting attention purely from shock value. In the bin.
Speaking as someone that performs in multiple bands and works in the music industry.... I can't stand Glastonbury, due to the fact they don't pay a good 95% of performers. The usual approach is to offer zero fee and a couple of free tickets, with the expectation that additional band members purchase their own tickets at face value. In some instances, they are given direct access to purchase these. In other instances, they need to have somehow procured tickets themselves, competing against other ticket buyers.
It's very common to find scenarios where a band is booked (say a six piece), they have 1 or 2 free tickets, then somehow they have to find additional musicians to plug the gaps from musicians that are already going. When they're often playing 4-5 sets already at all hours of the day, this is hardly an easy task.
Smaller festivals do at least pay people and offer entry and often guest list, even if the pay is sometimes nominal.
Sympathetic to everything said but a lot forget that unlike commercial festivals, Glasto is primarily a fund raising festival - last year £6m given out to charities. Bands benefit from exposure, being able to promote themselves as having played Glastonbury if helpful and sales/stream counts have traditionally been boosted. It’s tricky circumstances considered…
Prodigy best set of the festival but the live guitar is unnecessary, is so low in the mix and everything that sounds like guitar is synth or samples anyway I cheered when he threw it at the drummer and walked off, bloody good catch too!
Just watching The Progidy. I tend to to love their better known songs, but not so much the lesser ones. A bit more lively than Neil Young A very good set.
No just a combo of her backing track also having her vocal and the vocoder on her vocals, makes it hard to differentiate the live mic and the backing track
Yeah she wasn't miming outright but, but she was singing to a vocal track with her live microphone dialled down low. No band either, so everything's pre-recorded apart from a slither of live vocals and her hyping up the crowd. I get that her songs rely on heavy vocal effects but I've seen other acts deliver that and sing live. It makes you wonder what the 'live' part of her act actually is.
Every day there’s been coverage of every minute of the main stages live on IPlayer, I wanted to watch Louis Dunford yesterday, 11.15 on the other stage yet coverage didn’t start until much later and no option to wind back.
Every day there’s been coverage of every minute of the main stages live on IPlayer, I wanted to watch Louis Dunford yesterday, 11.15 on the other stage yet coverage didn’t start until much later and no option to wind back.
Apart from Friday (for reasons unknown) they usually miss the first band on all the streamed stages. No kaiser chiefs Saturday or selecter yesterday for example. Who knows why they do that, but Twas ever thus.
Never liked Rod. Not keen on his music and when I found out how he used to treat the football teams he invited to play at his place, that didn't help. Add in the plastic Man Utd/Celtic support the bar lowers even further.
Didn't see Prodigy, and skimming through the comments the elephant seems to have not been noticed by anyone?
Never liked Rod. Not keen on his music and when I found out how he used to treat the football teams he invited to play at his place, that didn't help. Add in the plastic Man Utd/Celtic support the bar lowers even further.
Didn't see Prodigy, and skimming through the comments the elephant seems to have not been noticed by anyone?
The Stones without Jagger?
Energy and charisma levels maybe.
But poor Keith not being there makes not one jot of difference to the sound they produce.
Never liked Rod. Not keen on his music and when I found out how he used to treat the football teams he invited to play at his place, that didn't help. Add in the plastic Man Utd/Celtic support the bar lowers even further.
Didn't see Prodigy, and skimming through the comments the elephant seems to have not been noticed by anyone?
The Stones without Jagger?
Keith was mainly a dancer, and whilst his energy was missed, Maxim is a great frontman in his own right so more like stones without Richard's? Anyway, it was an amazing set, really heavy with the live instruments
Chic/Nile Rodgers very good/the best at what they do.
Enjoyed their set but felt odd them playing Daft Punk hits.
Nile Rodgers co-wrote and produced the ones they played. That was the feature behind every song played.
I was aware of that.
He did the same at Dreamland last year too. Played Madonna and then all the voice recordings of his life time achievements. Wasn’t what some of us in the crowd wanted.
Speaking as someone that performs in multiple bands and works in the music industry.... I can't stand Glastonbury, due to the fact they don't pay a good 95% of performers. The usual approach is to offer zero fee and a couple of free tickets, with the expectation that additional band members purchase their own tickets at face value. In some instances, they are given direct access to purchase these. In other instances, they need to have somehow procured tickets themselves, competing against other ticket buyers.
It's very common to find scenarios where a band is booked (say a six piece), they have 1 or 2 free tickets, then somehow they have to find additional musicians to plug the gaps from musicians that are already going. When they're often playing 4-5 sets already at all hours of the day, this is hardly an easy task.
Smaller festivals do at least pay people and offer entry and often guest list, even if the pay is sometimes nominal.
My son and his mates played Boomtown a few years back. Definitely didn’t get a penny from playing there. They were like a post it on the billing and I think they were first up on Thursday lunchtime. But they all got passes and camping for the duration. They had performers wristbands,I think/know they lived the dream of all young musicians or young men. The Levellers were playing and they were too wasted know.
As a band they always seemed to play for drinks and a good time. Great if its not the day job but not so good if you’re trying to make it in a very tough business.
I've played Boomtown too, and yes, they'll give everyone passes, camping, and a basic food / drinks rider. It's a great festival! The band I played with (a 7-piece, nobody famous or anything) got around £800. I can't argue with that at all, as the festival was great, and we made some money after expenses.
Ive worked glastonbury making Artworks 6 times and never received a penny, great times when youre younger, just doesnt make any financial sense once you have a family or other commitments. That in, definitely got me other opportunities at other festivals here and abroad though where I did end up being paid and curated decor making sure others received money too.
I definitely see the pros and cons of such a set up, most of the people I know who sell artwokrs for 5 figure sums, just treat it like a holiday and a excuse to meet up with friends once a year for a month in the field.
I hope Glastonbury 2025 is remembered for some newsworthy performances, surprise appearances and guests, and almost perfect weather, than for inadequates attempting edgy self-promotion by breaking the law.
I hope Glastonbury 2025 is remembered for some newsworthy performances, surprise appearances and guests, and almost perfect weather, than for inadequates attempting edgy self-promotion by breaking the law.
If people really want that, the best way would probably be to stop talking about it... or they could continue being more offended by words than what's actually happening in Gaza and the westbank.
I hope Glastonbury 2025 is remembered for some newsworthy performances, surprise appearances and guests, and almost perfect weather, than for inadequates attempting edgy self-promotion by breaking the law.
If people really want that, the best way would probably be to stop talking about it... or they could continue being more offended by words than what's actually happening in Gaza and the westbank.
You might have misunderstood the point I was making. I want the memories about Glastonbury 2025 to be about the good, bad and indifferent performances and the overall experience, rather than the law breaking, if there was any.
I don't care who might have been "offended" by the comments, in the same way I don't care who might have been offended by Rod Stewart's pink outfit or people who might have been offended by how bad Neil Young's performance was.
What's happening in Gaza and the West Bank is reprehensible, but not a topic for this thread. But, suffice to say that no-one in their right mind should be less upset about that, than by the comments made by "edgy" music duos.
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Kneecap & Bob Vylan, dogshit that won't be played in 30-40 years from now, and are getting attention purely from shock value. In the bin.
I cheered when he threw it at the drummer and walked off, bloody good catch too!
I tend to to love their better known songs, but not so much the lesser ones.
A bit more lively than Neil Young
A very good set.
Didn't see Prodigy, and skimming through the comments the elephant seems to have not been noticed by anyone?
The Stones without Jagger?
But poor Keith not being there makes not one jot of difference to the sound they produce.
I definitely see the pros and cons of such a set up, most of the people I know who sell artwokrs for 5 figure sums, just treat it like a holiday and a excuse to meet up with friends once a year for a month in the field.
I don't care who might have been "offended" by the comments, in the same way I don't care who might have been offended by Rod Stewart's pink outfit or people who might have been offended by how bad Neil Young's performance was.
What's happening in Gaza and the West Bank is reprehensible, but not a topic for this thread. But, suffice to say that no-one in their right mind should be less upset about that, than by the comments made by "edgy" music duos.