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  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,834
    Chunes said:
    Rip-off Britain. 

    Going abroad and seeing things like a jumbo-sized can of Gillette shaving cream for half the price of a much smaller can that we're sold in the UK. 
    By chance, is that in a country with a different economic status? Perhaps one with differences in taxation, social welfare, and wage levels. One that is more dependant on tourism maybe? Could there be different supply chain methods and cost of sale etc. etc.

    If you are in Scotland or the Isle of Wight, then I’d be annoyed as well.

    If you are in the USA or Scandinavia, it might be worth going onto the “general things that please you” thread and commenting on how lucky you are to live in this country, rather than being ripped off over there.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,903
    edited August 2
    That when you submit a planning application with Greenwich Council they sell your details on to a bunch of third parties such as party wall surveyors etc. Who then send letters to your neighbours pretending we have employed them for their services. And if your neighbours engage with them you are on the hook for whatever they bill you. 

    And that's all legal! How?!! 

    Luckily managed to bat it away (hopefully) and the neighbours know not to engage but that's a joke. 
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,569
    cantersaddick said:
    That when you submit a planning application with Greenwich Council they sell your details on to a bunch of third parties such as party wall surveyors etc. Who then send letters to your neighbours pretending we have employed them for their services. And if your neighbours engage with them you are on the hook for whatever they bill you. 

    And that's all legal! How?!! 

    Luckily managed to bat it away (hopefully) and the neighbours know not to engage but that's a joke. 
    Bexleyheath council are the same, however not sure if the council pass the info on, or these companies just check the planning application lists.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,801
    cantersaddick said:
    That when you submit a planning application with Greenwich Council they sell your details on to a bunch of third parties such as party wall surveyors etc. Who then send letters to your neighbours pretending we have employed them for their services. And if your neighbours engage with them you are on the hook for whatever they bill you. 

    And that's all legal! How?!! 

    Luckily managed to bat it away (hopefully) and the neighbours know not to engage but that's a joke. 
    Party wall issues are important and its right people should know they have e rhe choice to ise someone other than the surveyor of the person doing the work. But agree it can be a license to print money at your expense
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,766
    usetobunkin said:
    What has happened to Corn Beef, they have changed the recipe, Taste like cardboard with a pinch of salt.
    Bloody expensive now too. Used to be dead cheap.

  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,766
    SporadicAddick said:
    Chunes said:
    Rip-off Britain. 

    Going abroad and seeing things like a jumbo-sized can of Gillette shaving cream for half the price of a much smaller can that we're sold in the UK. 
    By chance, is that in a country with a different economic status? Perhaps one with differences in taxation, social welfare, and wage levels. One that is more dependant on tourism maybe? Could there be different supply chain methods and cost of sale etc. etc.

    If you are in Scotland or the Isle of Wight, then I’d be annoyed as well.

    If you are in the USA or Scandinavia, it might be worth going onto the “general things that please you” thread and commenting on how lucky you are to live in this country, rather than being ripped off over there.

    Nah we just get ripped off in Blighty
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,874
    guinnessaddick said:
    cantersaddick said:
    That when you submit a planning application with Greenwich Council they sell your details on to a bunch of third parties such as party wall surveyors etc. Who then send letters to your neighbours pretending we have employed them for their services. And if your neighbours engage with them you are on the hook for whatever they bill you. 

    And that's all legal! How?!! 

    Luckily managed to bat it away (hopefully) and the neighbours know not to engage but that's a joke. 
    Bexleyheath council are the same, however not sure if the council pass the info on, or these companies just check the planning application lists.
    Pretty sure it’s the latter. 

    Seem to remember we found a builder that way ie after plans submitted. 
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,738
    I already couldn't stand players who arrogantly don't have their surname on their shirts, like we are already supposed to know who they are.

    Now we have posters on CL who try to sound like they're mates with certain players or more ITK by referring to players by first name or nickname, such as Tanto or Tupac. Sounds wank imo. It's not like 'Clive' or 'Benty' who are club legends. Players have to earn this 'right' and fans should defer until the appropriate time has arrived.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    jimmymelrose said:
    I already couldn't stand players who arrogantly don't have their surname on their shirts, like we are already supposed to know who they are.

    Now we have posters on CL who try to sound like they're mates with certain players or more ITK by referring to players by first name or nickname, such as Tanto or Tupac. Sounds wank imo. It's not like 'Clive' or 'Benty' who are club legends. Players have to earn this 'right' and fans should defer until the appropriate time has arrived.
    Well said Jim
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,903
    edited August 3
    guinnessaddick said:
    cantersaddick said:
    That when you submit a planning application with Greenwich Council they sell your details on to a bunch of third parties such as party wall surveyors etc. Who then send letters to your neighbours pretending we have employed them for their services. And if your neighbours engage with them you are on the hook for whatever they bill you. 

    And that's all legal! How?!! 

    Luckily managed to bat it away (hopefully) and the neighbours know not to engage but that's a joke. 
    Bexleyheath council are the same, however not sure if the council pass the info on, or these companies just check the planning application lists.
    Letters started arriving more than a week before we appeared on the planning application list. In fact just checked and we still haven't appeared on there.

    Alwaysneil said:
    cantersaddick said:
    That when you submit a planning application with Greenwich Council they sell your details on to a bunch of third parties such as party wall surveyors etc. Who then send letters to your neighbours pretending we have employed them for their services. And if your neighbours engage with them you are on the hook for whatever they bill you. 

    And that's all legal! How?!! 

    Luckily managed to bat it away (hopefully) and the neighbours know not to engage but that's a joke. 
    Party wall issues are important and its right people should know they have e rhe choice to ise someone other than the surveyor of the person doing the work. But agree it can be a license to print money at your expense
    Don't disagree. But that's not what's happening here. The letters are using my full details and claiming to be "from" us and stating that we have already engaged their services and so our neighbours just need to send them a few details. Then if they do they treat that as services engaged and we end up with a bill.
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  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,874
    cantersaddick said:
    guinnessaddick said:
    cantersaddick said:
    That when you submit a planning application with Greenwich Council they sell your details on to a bunch of third parties such as party wall surveyors etc. Who then send letters to your neighbours pretending we have employed them for their services. And if your neighbours engage with them you are on the hook for whatever they bill you. 

    And that's all legal! How?!! 

    Luckily managed to bat it away (hopefully) and the neighbours know not to engage but that's a joke. 
    Bexleyheath council are the same, however not sure if the council pass the info on, or these companies just check the planning application lists.
    Letters started arriving more than a week before we appeared on the planning application list. In fact just checked and we still haven't appeared on there.

    Alwaysneil said:
    cantersaddick said:
    That when you submit a planning application with Greenwich Council they sell your details on to a bunch of third parties such as party wall surveyors etc. Who then send letters to your neighbours pretending we have employed them for their services. And if your neighbours engage with them you are on the hook for whatever they bill you. 

    And that's all legal! How?!! 

    Luckily managed to bat it away (hopefully) and the neighbours know not to engage but that's a joke. 
    Party wall issues are important and its right people should know they have e rhe choice to ise someone other than the surveyor of the person doing the work. But agree it can be a license to print money at your expense
    Don't disagree. But that's not what's happening here. The letters are using my full details and claiming to be "from" us and stating that we have already engaged their services and so our neighbours just need to send them a few details. Then if they do they treat that as services engaged and we end up with a bill.
    Sounds like scam builders / related businesses who need to be reported. 

    I’m sure the council can’t sell your details as it’s public domain stuff on a planning application in the sense of making it known to interested parties. But copyright for the plan drawings etc. 

    Maybe applications can be seen in person a bit before going online? 

    Or has your architect passed on details?
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,333
    edited August 3
    SporadicAddick said:
    Chunes said:
    Rip-off Britain. 

    Going abroad and seeing things like a jumbo-sized can of Gillette shaving cream for half the price of a much smaller can that we're sold in the UK. 
    By chance, is that in a country with a different economic status? Perhaps one with differences in taxation, social welfare, and wage levels. One that is more dependant on tourism maybe? Could there be different supply chain methods and cost of sale etc. etc.

    If you are in Scotland or the Isle of Wight, then I’d be annoyed as well.

    If you are in the USA or Scandinavia, it might be worth going onto the “general things that please you” thread and commenting on how lucky you are to live in this country, rather than being ripped off over there.
    I get what you're saying, but that's kind of the problem, isn't it?

    Because of our economic status, history and psychographics, we end up paying more. I work in this area. Markets are segmented by tolerance, sensitivity to value and willingness to pay.

    UK consumers are simply less resistant to small incremental price hikes and shrinkflation. That's why the same product can get re-packaged at half the size, and sold for more than twice the cost.

    Others markets are just more sensitive to price, size and value. 

    Look at energy: UK firms are paid 60% more per kWh than any other European nation. We pay 300% more than the US. Is anyone happy with that? What is the justification? Where are the France-style riots in the streets?

    We shouldn't be willing to shrug and rationalise these prices. If you believe they're fair, that's a big part of the problem. 
  • thickandthin63
    thickandthin63 Posts: 2,950
    Nice to see that the vicious bastard who threw boiling water over a prison guard.has got his tv back and other goodies due to good behaviour.The only reward he should get is to be lined up against a wall and kicked in the bollocks at regular intervals.Our system is pathetic.
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,834
    edited August 4
    Chunes said:
    SporadicAddick said:
    Chunes said:
    Rip-off Britain. 

    Going abroad and seeing things like a jumbo-sized can of Gillette shaving cream for half the price of a much smaller can that we're sold in the UK. 
    By chance, is that in a country with a different economic status? Perhaps one with differences in taxation, social welfare, and wage levels. One that is more dependant on tourism maybe? Could there be different supply chain methods and cost of sale etc. etc.

    If you are in Scotland or the Isle of Wight, then I’d be annoyed as well.

    If you are in the USA or Scandinavia, it might be worth going onto the “general things that please you” thread and commenting on how lucky you are to live in this country, rather than being ripped off over there.
    I get what you're saying, but that's kind of the problem, isn't it?

    Because of our economic status, history and psychographics, we end up paying more. I work in this area. Markets are segmented by tolerance, sensitivity to value and willingness to pay.

    UK consumers are simply less resistant to small incremental price hikes and shrinkflation. That's why the same product can get re-packaged at half the size, and sold for more than twice the cost.

    Others markets are just more sensitive to price, size and value. 

    Look at energy: UK firms are paid 60% more per kWh than any other European nation. We pay 300% more than the US. Is anyone happy with that? What is the justification? Where are the France-style riots in the streets?

    We shouldn't be willing to shrug and rationalise these prices. If you believe they're fair, that's a big part of the problem. 
    I also worked (past tense) in this area, selling the same brand in multiple European countries. The vast bulk of the price differentiation between market pricing was down to local taxation, cost of manufacturing (COGS) and distribution.

    Net margin between countries was broadly aligned but retail price points were considerably different.

    Broadly speaking, price points were lower in southern and Eastern Europe, and higher in Northern Europe and UK. 


  • Raith_C_Chattonell
    Raith_C_Chattonell Posts: 5,669
    The air gap in Mr Kipling's so called exceedingly good Bramley Apple Pies.  



    Until the day when Mr Kipling decides to fill with fruit they will remain decidedly average!
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,834
    Raith_C_Chattonell said:
    The air gap in Mr Kipling's so called exceedingly good Bramley Apple Pies.  



    Until the day when Mr Kipling decides to fill with fruit they will remain decidedly average!
    They probably have more filling outside of the UK.
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,177
    valleynick66 said:
    cantersaddick said:
    guinnessaddick said:
    cantersaddick said:
    That when you submit a planning application with Greenwich Council they sell your details on to a bunch of third parties such as party wall surveyors etc. Who then send letters to your neighbours pretending we have employed them for their services. And if your neighbours engage with them you are on the hook for whatever they bill you. 

    And that's all legal! How?!! 

    Luckily managed to bat it away (hopefully) and the neighbours know not to engage but that's a joke. 
    Bexleyheath council are the same, however not sure if the council pass the info on, or these companies just check the planning application lists.
    Letters started arriving more than a week before we appeared on the planning application list. In fact just checked and we still haven't appeared on there.

    Alwaysneil said:
    cantersaddick said:
    That when you submit a planning application with Greenwich Council they sell your details on to a bunch of third parties such as party wall surveyors etc. Who then send letters to your neighbours pretending we have employed them for their services. And if your neighbours engage with them you are on the hook for whatever they bill you. 

    And that's all legal! How?!! 

    Luckily managed to bat it away (hopefully) and the neighbours know not to engage but that's a joke. 
    Party wall issues are important and its right people should know they have e rhe choice to ise someone other than the surveyor of the person doing the work. But agree it can be a license to print money at your expense
    Don't disagree. But that's not what's happening here. The letters are using my full details and claiming to be "from" us and stating that we have already engaged their services and so our neighbours just need to send them a few details. Then if they do they treat that as services engaged and we end up with a bill.
    Sounds like scam builders / related businesses who need to be reported. 

    I’m sure the council can’t sell your details as it’s public domain stuff on a planning application in the sense of making it known to interested parties. But copyright for the plan drawings etc. 

    Maybe applications can be seen in person a bit before going online? 

    Or has your architect passed on details?
    When I worked in a Truck garage, part of my duties was to read once a week 
    Applications and Decisions @.gov.uk SOUTH EAST , for Operator Licence applications and then pass the details to our sales team, service teams, to send out all the usual old gufff as to how great 
    DAF trucks were. 
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 556
    SporadicAddick said:
    Raith_C_Chattonell said:
    The air gap in Mr Kipling's so called exceedingly good Bramley Apple Pies.  



    Until the day when Mr Kipling decides to fill with fruit they will remain decidedly average!
    They probably have more filling outside of the UK.
    bloody foreigners paddle over here and nick all our fillings.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,467
    edited August 4
    Multi-billion-pound firms profiting from obvious design flaws in their products.
    In this case, for example, the post-2016 Ford Transit Custom wet belt issue. It's bad enough that Ford chose to submerge a rubber belt in oil, but the cost and frequency of replacement they're now recommending is outrageous — borderline criminal.
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,411
    Gribbo said:
    Multi-billion-pound firms profiting from obvious design flaws in their products.
    In this case, for example, the post-2016 Ford Transit Custom wet belt issue. It's bad enough that Ford chose to submerge a rubber belt in oil, but the cost and frequency of replacement they're now recommending is outrageous — borderline criminal.
    The government's relentless pursuit for low emissions has made cars less reliable. Wet belts, EGR valves, DPFs, turbochargers, swirl flaps are some of the more obvious issues.

    The days of a 2.0 chain driven petrol engine doing 300,000 miles with oil changes are over.
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  • Arsenetatters
    Arsenetatters Posts: 5,969
    The use of ‘ised’ on the end of words - 
    weaponised, problematised etc. 
    Often overused in social science and now seemingly mainstream. 
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,956
    Arsenetatters said:
    The use of ‘ised’ on the end of words - 
    weaponised, problematised etc. 
    Often overused in social science and now seemingly mainstream. 
    That's because the suffix has been mainstreamised
  • Arsenetatters
    Arsenetatters Posts: 5,969
    edited August 8
    Apologies if this offends anyone.
    At what point do equal opportunities go ‘too far’?
    I was at a hospital reception today and was greeted by someone who asked when I was booked in etc. I told her and she turned to another lady to use sign language to relate my details. This lady typed in my details and told me where to wait but I couldn’t understand what she said. The first lady then repeated it. 
    Surely there are some jobs that with certain disabilities are just not feasible. This means two people are paid in an already failing service.
  • O-Randy-Hunt
    O-Randy-Hunt Posts: 10,621
    Being called up for jury service.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,580
    This about 5 minutes from home this morning. 

  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,569
    DaveMehmet said:
    This about 5 minutes from home this morning. 

    Hope it’s not the head gasket.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,580
    guinnessaddick said:
    DaveMehmet said:
    This about 5 minutes from home this morning. 

    Hope it’s not the head gasket.
    Thankfully not mate. Couldn’t get any gears and I think it’s the clutch slave cylinder, which is fairly easy to change. The clutch is not that old but if it has gone, it’s an engine out job.
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,727
    O-Randy-Hunt said:
    Being called up for jury service.
    Not Croydon I hope. 
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,834
    Sitting in a traffic jam on a Sunday morning. 
  • Arsenetatters
    Arsenetatters Posts: 5,969
    O-Randy-Hunt said:
    Being called up for jury service.
    Mr Tatters has been called up to Maidstone - he’s not looking forward to it. 

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