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Alice Larkworthy appointed Commercial Director

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  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 16,600
    shirty5 said:
    Barry Higson’s replacement 
    Tracey Leaburn replacement as well if you check out the other thread*


    *joke BTW
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 20,129
    shirty5 said:
    Barry Higson’s replacement 
    Tracey Leaburn replacement as well if you check out the other thread*


    *joke BTW
    Multi tasking 
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,468
    Seems like our Alice is up for a laugh.  
    This from a few years ago. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5992043/Wholl-love-blind-date-week-Alice-31-Barry-38.html
    No doubt she'll be getting a bouquet of flowers from @cabbles some time soon!
  • JamAddick said:
    What changes do we want to see?

    Seen a few people mention the slow speed at bars before games and at HT, which I agree with. Not sure whether it would fit within AL’s remit, but it baffles me why they don’t pre-pour a load of beers just before half time. Get the first 30 pints served immediately and that changes everything.

    anything else? I personally think the fan zone has been a great addition, so anything to improve that would be great.
    The food outlets are awful , (especially in the Alan Curbishley stand and the Covered End). lack of food choice . Long queue's and uninterested staff.  I agree the Fanzone is an improvement. 
    Sorry to say but she's not going to be dealing with the speed that pints are poured at. She's a commercial director so she'll be working on new and old commercial partnerships, that may include Reebok and the F&B partners but it will be at a contractual and strategy level. Sorry but she's not going to be asking them to add another menu option for Bedaddick.
  • shirty5 said:
    Barry Higson’s replacement 
    Tracey Leaburn replacement as well if you check out the other thread*


    *joke BTW
    I believe she will be more of a replacement for Charlie and Steve who I understand were very involved in the commercial deals from my brief discussions with Methven
  • KiwiValley
    KiwiValley Posts: 3,635
    Someone i know used to work with her and he rates her highly.
  • NornIrishAddick
    NornIrishAddick Posts: 9,640
    cafcfan said:
    Seems like our Alice is up for a laugh.  
    This from a few years ago. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5992043/Wholl-love-blind-date-week-Alice-31-Barry-38.html
    No doubt she'll be getting a bouquet of flowers from @cabbles some time soon!
    Was she proving that she was lark worthy?

    I fully expect to ear in my head Miranda Hart saying "What larks!" for the foreseeable future whenever I read her name.
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 5,074
    Induction probably over now, maybe a strategy under development and appointment of a team. 

    So priorities from a fans perspective for the commercial team, assuming there will be one:
    1. Match day prices.
    2. Gather and Gather contract, the '32 minute' problem
    3. Fans zone, optimisation.
    4. Some means of ongoing comms with stakeholders, e.g. to listen to/manage involvement of sponsors and fans and others.

    What else might a commercial director take an interest in?




  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,864
    Induction probably over now, maybe a strategy under development and appointment of a team. 

    So priorities from a fans perspective for the commercial team, assuming there will be one:
    1. Match day prices.
    2. Gather and Gather contract, the '32 minute' problem
    3. Fans zone, optimisation.
    4. Some means of ongoing comms with stakeholders, e.g. to listen to/manage involvement of sponsors and fans and others.

    What else might a commercial director take an interest in?




    Reinstate pot holes... travesty!
  • Induction probably over now, maybe a strategy under development and appointment of a team. 

    So priorities from a fans perspective for the commercial team, assuming there will be one:
    1. Match day prices.
    2. Gather and Gather contract, the '32 minute' problem
    3. Fans zone, optimisation.
    4. Some means of ongoing comms with stakeholders, e.g. to listen to/manage involvement of sponsors and fans and others.

    What else might a commercial director take an interest in?




    I’d imagine the focus is largely (exclusively?) on revenue generation, so sponsorship, hospitality, advertising, commercial partnership development and ticket sales will all be above your list. 2 and 4 are unlikely to be near the top. 1 is fixed for the next 9 months so nothing doing there. Incrementality from 3 is unlikely to be material in the short term.

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  • JamAddick said:
    What changes do we want to see?

    Seen a few people mention the slow speed at bars before games and at HT, which I agree with. Not sure whether it would fit within AL’s remit, but it baffles me why they don’t pre-pour a load of beers just before half time. Get the first 30 pints served immediately and that changes everything.

    anything else? I personally think the fan zone has been a great addition, so anything to improve that would be great.
    I mentioned pre-pouring to the woman on the Fuller’s black cab stand and she said customers don’t like it, which is strange because that’s quite common for stout. 
    I suspect the answer given to was straight off the top of her head. 
    I don’t know how to put this without sounding condescending to the staff serving beer but it’s obvious that they haven’t a clue, nor their supervisors and they need training by people who do.
     I had nearly a full pint of black taxi Saturday, tasted fine but it wasn’t poured remotely correctly and shy of a full pint that I paid for. It’s not that hard to do but does require some knowledge. 
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 9,493
    Someone i know used to work with her and he rates her highly.
    Did he tell you that over lunch?
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 9,131
    Induction probably over now, maybe a strategy under development and appointment of a team. 

    So priorities from a fans perspective for the commercial team, assuming there will be one:
    1. Match day prices.
    2. Gather and Gather contract, the '32 minute' problem
    3. Fans zone, optimisation.
    4. Some means of ongoing comms with stakeholders, e.g. to listen to/manage involvement of sponsors and fans and others.

    What else might a commercial director take an interest in?




    Some sort of response when a long standing supporter asks if there are any parking spaces available at the ground to buy to help with mobility issues ? Twice contacted the club in writing, blanked both times. Even a courtesy reply to say no sorry, would be a start 
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,500
    edited August 2025
    Gillis said:
    In the same way we should never sign players from Ipswich, we should never recruit executives with links to Arsenal.
    Matt Holland, Darren Bent, Hermann Hreiðarsson? Dont let Ahadme taint that illustrious group. 
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 5,074
    edited August 2025
    Induction probably over now, maybe a strategy under development and appointment of a team. 

    So priorities from a fans perspective for the commercial team, assuming there will be one:
    1. Match day prices.
    2. Gather and Gather contract, the '32 minute' problem
    3. Fans zone, optimisation.
    4. Some means of ongoing comms with stakeholders, e.g. to listen to/manage involvement of sponsors and fans and others.

    What else might a commercial director take an interest in?




    I’d imagine the focus is largely (exclusively?) on revenue generation, so sponsorship, hospitality, advertising, commercial partnership development and ticket sales will all be above your list. 2 and 4 are unlikely to be near the top. 1 is fixed for the next 9 months so nothing doing there. Incrementality from 3 is unlikely to be material in the short term.
    Begs the question as to where fans fit in a commercial strategy. For instance, surely a full stadium is a factor to support other revenue streams . And ticket prices can be set at fairly short notice to help make that happen.
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,539
    Induction probably over now, maybe a strategy under development and appointment of a team. 

    So priorities from a fans perspective for the commercial team, assuming there will be one:
    1. Match day prices.
    2. Gather and Gather contract, the '32 minute' problem
    3. Fans zone, optimisation.
    4. Some means of ongoing comms with stakeholders, e.g. to listen to/manage involvement of sponsors and fans and others.

    What else might a commercial director take an interest in?




    I’d imagine the focus is largely (exclusively?) on revenue generation, so sponsorship, hospitality, advertising, commercial partnership development and ticket sales will all be above your list. 2 and 4 are unlikely to be near the top. 1 is fixed for the next 9 months so nothing doing there. Incrementality from 3 is unlikely to be material in the short term.
    Begs the question as to where fans fit in a commercial strategy. For instance, surely a full stadium is a factor to support other revenue streams . And ticket prices can be set at fairly short notice to help make that happen.
    Not without upsetting the season ticket holders.

    In any case the sponsors will be more interested in getting their identities on TV.
  • Induction probably over now, maybe a strategy under development and appointment of a team. 

    So priorities from a fans perspective for the commercial team, assuming there will be one:
    1. Match day prices.
    2. Gather and Gather contract, the '32 minute' problem
    3. Fans zone, optimisation.
    4. Some means of ongoing comms with stakeholders, e.g. to listen to/manage involvement of sponsors and fans and others.

    What else might a commercial director take an interest in?




    I’d imagine the focus is largely (exclusively?) on revenue generation, so sponsorship, hospitality, advertising, commercial partnership development and ticket sales will all be above your list. 2 and 4 are unlikely to be near the top. 1 is fixed for the next 9 months so nothing doing there. Incrementality from 3 is unlikely to be material in the short term.
    Begs the question as to where fans fit in a commercial strategy. For instance, surely a full stadium is a factor to support other revenue streams . And ticket prices can be set at fairly short notice to help make that happen.
    Fair point and I think it's a fine balance, as without happy fans there is no revenue, but I think that's more driven by performance on the pitch as commercial strategy.

    There is a sad fact true of many industries. I'd say +90% of the posters on this forum are legacy fans. We'll turn up whatever (varying according to performance on the pitch) and we'll buy stuff whatever.

    We are decent cash cows and we are very useful is in bringing new fans via friends and relatives, but if I were a commercial director, my aim would be incremental revenue, and that isn't coming from the people already here. As I said on another thread, our kit marketing is a great example - it's not aimed at middle aged blokes that will buy the shirt whatever, it's aimed at a new audience that might not have considered us / football as something to do - our social media output is likewise targeted (how many people on here had to google "the ends" when the Anderson an Aneke videos came out?).

    I'd want to be targeting advertisers for our new screen and digital advertising, and be looking for a decent slice of London football tourism. I'd want 100% occupancy in lounges and boxes, and seeing how I could get higher revenues from them. 

    Fan engagement, beer queue times and the fan zone would be other peoples issues, as they are lower on the incremental revenue scale.

    All of the above is supposition, I may be completely wrong and the areas you highlight, which are all critical, may absolutely be her focus, and in many ways, I wish they were.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,959
    Gone.
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,235
    Gone.
    Quit? Repercussions? 

  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 8,098
    sam3110 said:
    Hopefully it's more Alice in Wonderland than Alice In Chains during her time here 
    Hopefully there's no Malice in Sunderland

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  • jose
    jose Posts: 1,885
    Never exploited Valley Express in a way that would build support and generate profit and bums on seats and spend at the Valley.
    I imagine it is a rotating position, and will start again with another eager ‘sweat the asset’ young ‘un on crap wages, who will not grow the business in the most obvious way, which is help people to travel and attend matches and therefore generate income.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,835
    Gone.
    Say less!
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 87,051
    DA9 said:
    Gone.
    Quit? Repercussions? 

    "Let go" I heard.

    Whether it was fall out from the Mr Q fiasco I dont know
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 22,071
    jose said:
    Never exploited Valley Express in a way that would build support and generate profit and bums on seats and spend at the Valley.
    I imagine it is a rotating position, and will start again with another eager ‘sweat the asset’ young ‘un on crap wages, who will not grow the business in the most obvious way, which is help people to travel and attend matches and therefore generate income.

    That's not an accurate description in this case.
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 19,523
    PaddyP17 said:
    JamAddick said:
    What changes do we want to see?

    Seen a few people mention the slow speed at bars before games and at HT, which I agree with. Not sure whether it would fit within AL’s remit, but it baffles me why they don’t pre-pour a load of beers just before half time. Get the first 30 pints served immediately and that changes everything.

    anything else? I personally think the fan zone has been a great addition, so anything to improve that would be great.
    The stuff like queues and customer footprint is Ops rather than Commercial territory. Alice would be securing sponsorships, commercial partnerships, any ways to supplement the Club's income, and maybe think about a change from e.g. Delaware North (if necessary). There's a bit of cross-pollination but the stuff like how quickly pints are poured is an ops thing, and the Fan Zone is probably a bit of everything.

    She also looks like a really decent hire for a football club of our size, and the ongoing commitment to this off the field is very good to see. I have worked on Premier League commercial director roles before and while she might be a tiny bit light for some of those, it's a really good sign that off the field we're taking such a professional approach to how we can build out our staff too.
    That went well  :D
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,283
    PaddyP17 said:
    JamAddick said:
    What changes do we want to see?

    Seen a few people mention the slow speed at bars before games and at HT, which I agree with. Not sure whether it would fit within AL’s remit, but it baffles me why they don’t pre-pour a load of beers just before half time. Get the first 30 pints served immediately and that changes everything.

    anything else? I personally think the fan zone has been a great addition, so anything to improve that would be great.
    The stuff like queues and customer footprint is Ops rather than Commercial territory. Alice would be securing sponsorships, commercial partnerships, any ways to supplement the Club's income, and maybe think about a change from e.g. Delaware North (if necessary). There's a bit of cross-pollination but the stuff like how quickly pints are poured is an ops thing, and the Fan Zone is probably a bit of everything.

    She also looks like a really decent hire for a football club of our size, and the ongoing commitment to this off the field is very good to see. I have worked on Premier League commercial director roles before and while she might be a tiny bit light for some of those, it's a really good sign that off the field we're taking such a professional approach to how we can build out our staff too.
    That went well  :D
    Jesus. Sorry I'm not a psychic.
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 1,592
    DA9 said:
    Gone.
    Quit? Repercussions? 

    "Let go" I heard.

    Whether it was fall out from the Mr Q fiasco I dont know
    what MrQ fiasco Henry?
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 13,550
    gringo said:
    DA9 said:
    Gone.
    Quit? Repercussions? 

    "Let go" I heard.

    Whether it was fall out from the Mr Q fiasco I dont know
    what MrQ fiasco Henry?
    Is this not common knowledge now? The sponsorship deal that was, then wasn't. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 22,813
    gringo said:
    DA9 said:
    Gone.
    Quit? Repercussions? 

    "Let go" I heard.

    Whether it was fall out from the Mr Q fiasco I dont know
    what MrQ fiasco Henry?
    Is this not common knowledge now? The sponsorship deal that was, then wasn't. 
    No, other than you and a few others cryptically alluding to it around the home kit launch I think this is the first time Mr Q have been named on here
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,789
    I hadn't read this thread before, got all excited about a new professional member of staff, posters knew people who spoke highly of her, all very positive working through July.

    And then gone in August and mention of an online casino that was possibly supposed to be shirt sponsor. 

    All very Charlton.