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But either he’s fit to play at least some minutes in an EFL cup match or he is still too crocked to risk on the bench in a league match? I was trying not to directly call out NJ for talking in riddles. Agree we have a big issue - seemingly of our own making.fenaddick said:
It means NJ was concerned he’d break down and not be available for the weekend and so one of tonight’s players would need to come on in the Championship. That in itself is a massive issueWeegie Addick said:
Really not sure what this means?ForeverAddickted said:Charlton Athletic boss wants defensive additions before transfer window closesReece Burke is back in training but the summer addition from Luton Town has not featured since the opening game in pre-season at Dartford.
“He is involved now, in terms of everything, but I didn’t want to risk him tonight playing 90 minutes or a load of minutes because, again, if anything happens then we are exposed,” said Jones.
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My reading is he's fit enough for either but both have a risk to them, Jones would rather take the risk in the league than the cupWeegie Addick said:
But either he’s fit to play at least some minutes in an EFL cup match or he is still too crocked to risk on the bench in a league match? I was trying not to directly call out NJ for talking in riddles. Agree we have a big issue - seemingly of our own making.fenaddick said:
It means NJ was concerned he’d break down and not be available for the weekend and so one of tonight’s players would need to come on in the Championship. That in itself is a massive issueWeegie Addick said:
Really not sure what this means?ForeverAddickted said:Charlton Athletic boss wants defensive additions before transfer window closesReece Burke is back in training but the summer addition from Luton Town has not featured since the opening game in pre-season at Dartford.
“He is involved now, in terms of everything, but I didn’t want to risk him tonight playing 90 minutes or a load of minutes because, again, if anything happens then we are exposed,” said Jones.
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My reading is that he’s not fit enough for either.fenaddick said:
My reading is he's fit enough for either but both have a risk to them, Jones would rather take the risk in the league than the cupWeegie Addick said:
But either he’s fit to play at least some minutes in an EFL cup match or he is still too crocked to risk on the bench in a league match? I was trying not to directly call out NJ for talking in riddles. Agree we have a big issue - seemingly of our own making.fenaddick said:
It means NJ was concerned he’d break down and not be available for the weekend and so one of tonight’s players would need to come on in the Championship. That in itself is a massive issueWeegie Addick said:
Really not sure what this means?ForeverAddickted said:Charlton Athletic boss wants defensive additions before transfer window closesReece Burke is back in training but the summer addition from Luton Town has not featured since the opening game in pre-season at Dartford.
“He is involved now, in terms of everything, but I didn’t want to risk him tonight playing 90 minutes or a load of minutes because, again, if anything happens then we are exposed,” said Jones.
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Ridiculous that we paid a fee for him, can't understand why we did it when there were so many other options.3
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You can't get much more exposed than playing Mitchell alongside Laqeretabua and bringing on Gough.ForeverAddickted said:Charlton Athletic boss wants defensive additions before transfer window closesReece Burke is back in training but the summer addition from Luton Town has not featured since the opening game in pre-season at Dartford.
“He is involved now, in terms of everything, but I didn’t want to risk him tonight playing 90 minutes or a load of minutes because, again, if anything happens then we are exposed,” said Jones.
If he's back in full training surely he could've at least been a sub and got 15-20 minutes at the end?2 -
We’ve got difficult challenge of needing alternatives to our two best players in Ramsay and Jones.Braziliance said:Ridiculous that we paid a fee for him, can't understand why we did it when there were so many other options.
How do you sell the club to players who in reality will hopefully only be back up?
If you want players as good as Ramsay and Jones you need to pay the wages and fees those players cost. I doubt Jones wants a young defender from the lower leagues as they’ll have the same need of regular game time in order to develop.
Burke not being able to play every game was perhaps a way to handle that.
I do wonder if Jones had been encouraged or challenged to use our young defenders as cover and last night was his way of showing none of them are ready yet.
If you play a young defender it should be alongside experienced players, it gives them a much better chance of stepping up and learning along the way.
Going to be interesting to see who if anyone we bring in. I expect there will be some doubts about their fitness or ability because we’re not going to pay big money for a Ramsay or Jones clone to sit on the bench.8 -
Problem is I think you may well have to pay the wages for cover to sit in the bench in this league. Does feel like Jones' point last night.0
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I have no issue with us buying someone better than Jones, but that won’t be easy in our budget and he’s a very good player . That’s the reality of improving a squad . Not the same level but that’s what we’ve done with Gillesphey . Buying better than Ramsay will be taxing . Personally , I think we will have to evolve our system this year and I’d be looking for a right back that can play both wing back and centre half well. Apter is too good a footballer to leave out - he will find a place somewhere . I think we will end up playing 3421, with a more orthodox but attacking right wing back , with Apter and Knibbs off the striker . We have to have more threat than just crosses from wide players .Scoham said:
We’ve got difficult challenge of needing alternatives to our two best players in Ramsay and Jones.Braziliance said:Ridiculous that we paid a fee for him, can't understand why we did it when there were so many other options.
How do you sell the club to players who in reality will hopefully only be back up?
If you want players as good as Ramsay and Jones you need to pay the wages and fees those players cost. I doubt Jones wants a young defender from the lower leagues as they’ll have the same need of regular game time in order to develop.
Burke not being able to play every game was perhaps a way to handle that.
I do wonder if Jones had been encouraged or challenged to use our young defenders as cover and last night was his way of showing none of them are ready yet.
If you play a young defender it should be alongside experienced players, it gives them a much better chance of stepping up and learning along the way.
Going to be interesting to see who if anyone we bring in. I expect there will be some doubts about their fitness or ability because we’re not going to pay big money for a Ramsay or Jones clone to sit on the bench.
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The question for me is how much did we pay for him. For example paying 150k given the increased budget might be worth the risk. If we paid 900k, then it might be wasteful. Not sure if the fee has been reported anywhere.Braziliance said:Ridiculous that we paid a fee for him, can't understand why we did it when there were so many other options.6 -
I will say that given the number of signings that have been made, we've still had a very decent success rate and even if Burke does turn out to be something of a busted flush I'd still say we have done pretty well.
They can't all be winners and at the very least it seems like we've still got time to rectify the issue of lack of cover at CB.2 -
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It was the one fee there wasn’t even a rumoured amount somewhere.Bostonaddick said:
The question for me is how much did we pay for him. For example paying 150k given the increased budget might be worth the risk. If we paid 900k, then it might be wasteful. Not sure if the fee has been reported anywhere.Braziliance said:Ridiculous that we paid a fee for him, can't understand why we did it when there were so many other options.0 -
Agreed. Either he's fit enough to play, or he isn't ready.Weegie Addick said:
My reading is that he’s not fit enough for either.fenaddick said:
My reading is he's fit enough for either but both have a risk to them, Jones would rather take the risk in the league than the cupWeegie Addick said:
But either he’s fit to play at least some minutes in an EFL cup match or he is still too crocked to risk on the bench in a league match? I was trying not to directly call out NJ for talking in riddles. Agree we have a big issue - seemingly of our own making.fenaddick said:
It means NJ was concerned he’d break down and not be available for the weekend and so one of tonight’s players would need to come on in the Championship. That in itself is a massive issueWeegie Addick said:
Really not sure what this means?ForeverAddickted said:Charlton Athletic boss wants defensive additions before transfer window closesReece Burke is back in training but the summer addition from Luton Town has not featured since the opening game in pre-season at Dartford.
“He is involved now, in terms of everything, but I didn’t want to risk him tonight playing 90 minutes or a load of minutes because, again, if anything happens then we are exposed,” said Jones.
And after so little pre season, he can't be anywhere near match fit anyway. It would be crazy to throw him in to a Championship game straight away, whereas last night would surely have been a useful way of easing him back.2 -
How much Luton contract was there remaining?Scoham said:
It was the one fee there wasn’t even a rumoured amount somewhere.Bostonaddick said:
The question for me is how much did we pay for him. For example paying 150k given the increased budget might be worth the risk. If we paid 900k, then it might be wasteful. Not sure if the fee has been reported anywhere.Braziliance said:Ridiculous that we paid a fee for him, can't understand why we did it when there were so many other options.0 -
Maybe the fee was taking on his contract for the season if he had a year left say? Then giving him another year on top. I cant remember how long he signed for though.Ferryman said:
How much Luton contract was there remaining?Scoham said:
It was the one fee there wasn’t even a rumoured amount somewhere.Bostonaddick said:
The question for me is how much did we pay for him. For example paying 150k given the increased budget might be worth the risk. If we paid 900k, then it might be wasteful. Not sure if the fee has been reported anywhere.Braziliance said:Ridiculous that we paid a fee for him, can't understand why we did it when there were so many other options.0 -
He signed a "long term" deal in 2023, so either a year or two as a guess. Doesn't look like Luton said how long the contract was for.Ferryman said:
How much Luton contract was there remaining?Scoham said:
It was the one fee there wasn’t even a rumoured amount somewhere.Bostonaddick said:
The question for me is how much did we pay for him. For example paying 150k given the increased budget might be worth the risk. If we paid 900k, then it might be wasteful. Not sure if the fee has been reported anywhere.Braziliance said:Ridiculous that we paid a fee for him, can't understand why we did it when there were so many other options.
https://www.lutontown.co.uk/en/news/reece-burke-signs-contract-extension-with-the-hatters1 -
Luton have a policy of not releasing contract lengths1
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Fair play to him. At one stage, we were probably worried that he might not play 6 games, let alone so far.
NJ wins again!!
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Largely because he scored but he's in the team of the week3
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No post on his thread here since October 20th. He is sometimes name-checked among the injured (as in NJ's latest comments), but I have never seen or heard any real discussion of his situation. I know he arrived half-fit and after making 8 appearances (was it really that many?) dropped out injured, but what more exactly is his problem, and when is he expected back? Important because we have no direct replacement for Jones if injured, and would have to "mend and make-do", which is less than ideal. And even if we tried to buy a back-up this window, it would be hard to persuade decent players to join if they are destined to sit on the bench and watch Jones' weekly heroics.2
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I'm afraid I am out of patience for expensive injury prone players who are out multiple times in a season. At least with Chuks we had the odd match winning moment, Burke has been an abysmal signing.
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What’s the point?Injury prone player is constantly injured…
don’t see what he brings to the team anyway, needs to be binned off in summe1 -
I'd love to hear Nathan reflect on this transfer. We paid a fee for Burke. Nathan said something like, yes he's been injured, but he's never been injured playing for me. Well now he has, around 5-6 times.2
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Frustrating for the lad, more frustration for the Club.
Is that the 3rd time he has gone off injured in the first half of a game? Seems go happen with no impact too. Body sadly can't hold up to the rigours.1 -
Sichenje said we were interested 6 months ago.
Perhaps we should have been bold, aggressive and front footed by signing him in the summer instead of Burke.11 -
Get rid of Burke in the summer6
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A terrible signing,......we all saw it.Nathan didnt4
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Made of rice paper.1
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Has he actually played a full 90min yet?? From memory the few games hes been fit this season, and its been a very few hes still had to go off early as hes simply not up to 90min, hes barely up for the 20 or 30min no matter more.0
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Another one of NJ former players who is clearly done, Potts, Campbell, Lualua. Get rid.3
