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For a pink ball game, movement would be just as important as raw pace. I assume that would benefit Potts?2
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I always felt Potts for Wood for the pink ball test would be a good call. As long as he's fit for the 3rd.1
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For the Lions, James Rew is batting at 4 and his younger brother, Thomas, is batting at 6 and keeping.
I find it strange that Ben McKinney isn't in the side given that he scored 66 & 68 against England in the warm-up game. Is it possible that he's joined up with the England squad, clearly not for the second Test but to make him feel part of the group? For those that don't know anything about him, he's a hard hitter but also 6' 7'' which makes him the obvious, like-for-like, replacement for Crawley, albeit he's left handed. Not sure if he's ready for the step up but that has never worried this regime.3 -
killerandflash said:For a pink ball game, movement would be just as important as raw pace. I assume that would benefit Potts?
Totally agree. The point is, though, he was not ready to play in the first Test in which he gave us nothing. He could have missed both the first two matches, had more time off the pitch to enhance his fitness post the warm-up game and then played in this PMs XI game.cantersaddick said:I always felt Potts for Wood for the pink ball test would be a good call. As long as he's fit for the 3rd.0 -
Addick Addict said:For the Lions, James Rew is batting at 4 and his younger brother, Thomas, is batting at 6 and keeping.
I find it strange that Ben McKinney isn't in the side given that he scored 66 & 68 against England in the warm-up game. Is it possible that he's joined up with the England squad, clearly not for the second Test but to make him feel part of the group? For those that don't know anything about him, he's a hard hitter but also 6' 7'' which makes him the obvious, like-for-like, replacement for Crawley, albeit he's left handed. Not sure if he's ready for the step up but that has never worried this regime.
I do wonder if McKinney is with the main squad too. Makes more sense than Haines and Gay stylistically.
Although I didn't expect Haines to be bowling! Couple of wickets for his incredibly part time mediums!1 -
Bethell makes 16 (30) for the Lions. Sounds like Emilo Gay might have torn his hamstring too so will be interesting to see what is actually going on with Ben McKinney1
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An England squad largely made up of walking wounded and walking wickets.
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Comfortable 8 wicket win for the Lions over a PMs XI , 50s for Tom Haines, Emilo Gay,James Rew and Asa Tribe . Only Bethell missing out with the bat and Josh Tongue went wicketless
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I still find if baffling why time in the middle wouldn't have benefited our main squad. Imagine if Zak and Root had caressed nice 50s out there, surely that would have helped their batting rhythm and confidence against the pink ball, even if the conditions were different.2
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killerandflash said:I still find if baffling why time in the middle wouldn't have benefited our main squad. Imagine if Zak and Root had caressed nice 50s out there, surely that would have helped their batting rhythm and confidence against the pink ball, even if the conditions were different.
Unfortunately, the message coming from the England cap is that they do things their way and to change course would be admittance that they got it wrong in the first place. Be that in terms of preparation or in a match situation.
Who exactly have Crawley and Root been facing in the nets and for how long? Not Wood, Potts or Tongue. Not Archer, Carse, Stokes or Atkinson for any period of time. It's also too easy for batters to say "that wouldn't have been out" in the nets when they hit one in the air "or that would have been six". At the very least, they should be practising in the middle to set fields because that does add a different dimension but there is no evidence that they have been doing that either.0 -
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To be fair the conditions were just as different as they were at Lilac Hill. I can totally understand both viewpoints here. Even the Aussie PM clearly didn’t think it was an important game as he got married this weekend!killerandflash said:I still find if baffling why time in the middle wouldn't have benefited our main squad. Imagine if Zak and Root had caressed nice 50s out there, surely that would have helped their batting rhythm and confidence against the pink ball, even if the conditions were different.1 -
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BBC News - The Ashes: Duncan Spencer - the fastest bowler you might not have heard of - BBC Sport1
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These are the session times for Brisbane. It starts at 2pm local time, which is 4am UK time.
First session 04:00-06:00
Dinner 06:00-06:40
Second session 06:40-08:40
Tea 08:40-09:00
Third session 09:00-11:00
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A half six wake up to catch two full sessions is very tempting1
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I was thinking something similar.fenaddick said:A half six wake up to catch two full sessions is very tempting
Really annoying that Charlton Pompey is a 12:30 game, as assuming the Test is still alive at the end of day 3, it'll go on until 11:30ish.0 -
Jacks in for Wood the only change for England.
Feels mad they were so stubborn over Bashir because they thought he's tall and that would work in Australia, only to drop him for a white ball batting all rounder as soon as they got there.
Khawaja is out for the Aussies, no confrontation yet of whether Inglis or Webster will come in.2 -
I feel like a broken record on this one but spinners only get better through playing. We picked Bashir as our number one, with next to zero experience who cannot get a game in the CC but who, "because I play for England", thinks he can now command a three-year contract and who no county wants. That's not his fault, it's the fault of this regime and the ECB for insisting that two thirds of our CC games are now played at times in the season when spinners simply do not thrive.North Lower Neil said:Jacks in for Wood the only change for England.
Feels mad they were so stubborn over Bashir because they thought he's tall and that would work in Australia, only to drop him for a white ball batting all rounder as soon as they got there.
Khawaja is out for the Aussies, no confrontation yet of whether Inglis or Webster will come in.
To illustrate the point, exactly 50 years ago, in 1975, there were 17 English spinners with 40 or more wickets. This season, Jack Leach, at the age of 34, was the only one. Instead of Bashir, we've now picked Jacks, primarily to elongate the tail, who has 49 career red ball wickets at 42.22 to his name.
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I think a lot of the Bashir blame needs to fall on Key/Wright as the supposed selectors. Can't even get a Div 1 county deal now because everyone's pretty much sorted for front line spin and his record is nothing to write home about.
Makes me wonder if Dawson has fallen out with management again...0 -
Dawson has visibly and statistically regressed. He had his chance and failed it comprehensivelyMarcusH26 said:I think a lot of the Bashir blame needs to fall on Key/Wright as the supposed selectors. Can't even get a Div 1 county deal now because everyone's pretty much sorted for front line spin and his record is nothing to write home about.
Makes me wonder if Dawson has fallen out with management again...0 -
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I feel sorry for Bashir really. He’s been left in the public eye for years with poor performances purely because they thought he’d be good in Aus and now they aren’t playing him. Ultimately this isn’t his fault but he’s taken a huge amount of the criticism for it1
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There's still 3 Tests after this one tbf, and Jacks isn't someone I particularly back to stay in the side, for his bowling at leastfenaddick said:I feel sorry for Bashir really. He’s been left in the public eye for years with poor performances purely because they thought he’d be good in Aus and now they aren’t playing him. Ultimately this isn’t his fault but he’s taken a huge amount of the criticism for it0 -
Yeah, same.fenaddick said:I feel sorry for Bashir really. He’s been left in the public eye for years with poor performances purely because they thought he’d be good in Aus and now they aren’t playing him. Ultimately this isn’t his fault but he’s taken a huge amount of the criticism for it
I don't mind that he's not playing, I mind that they consistently kept him in the side while he wasn't performing on the basis it was for the Ashes only not to play him in the Ashes.
Could have been looking at other options the last two years.2 -
It's a bizarre one, seeing that they've favoured Bashir for the last 2 years BECAUSE he was their choice for the Ashes, yet have left him out from the first 2 Tests.North Lower Neil said:Jacks in for Wood the only change for England.
Feels mad they were so stubborn over Bashir because they thought he's tall and that would work in Australia, only to drop him for a white ball batting all rounder as soon as they got there.
Khawaja is out for the Aussies, no confrontation yet of whether Inglis or Webster will come in.
Jacks is an odd call, seeing that he's not played Test cricket for 3 years. It's not as if Jacks has a stunning white ball record as a bowler either. In 21 ODIs he's taken 6 wickets, while in 29 T20Is he's taken 3 wickets.1 -
Of course but he already won’t have played 40% of the test and I think they’re hoping Wood will be back for the third. Maybe he’ll get a bowl in the fifth test if it’s a dead rubber but other than that I struggle to see Bashir being pickedLeuth said:
There's still 3 Tests after this one tbf, and Jacks isn't someone I particularly back to stay in the side, for his bowling at leastfenaddick said:I feel sorry for Bashir really. He’s been left in the public eye for years with poor performances purely because they thought he’d be good in Aus and now they aren’t playing him. Ultimately this isn’t his fault but he’s taken a huge amount of the criticism for it0 -
I do get picking Jacks for a pink ball match though. If he comes in at the right time, the ball will be remarkably soft and he should be able to do some of his white ball hitting1
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This, and he does have similar "attributes" to Bashir in terms of height and bouncefenaddick said:I do get picking Jacks for a pink ball match though. If he comes in at the right time, the ball will be remarkably soft and he should be able to do some of his white ball hitting0 -
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The irony is that had Khawaja not been injured, Australia might have left Lyon out. I doubt they will but they do have Head, Webster, Labuschagne and Smith who could, between them bowl as many overs of spin and Jacks and Root might. In fact, if I were Australia, I might be tempted to pick this team:
Head
Weatherald
Labuschagne
Smith
Green
Inglis
Webster
Carey
Starc
Boland
Doggett
As I say, I doubt that they will do that but, if they did, then they'd still have five seamers and four spinners with Carey coming in at eight.0 -
Oh Lordy. That is so sad. He had his battles but I'd hoped that he had turned things around. RIPkinveachyaddick said:0
