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  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,801
    edited 10:46AM
    Criticise players online is one thing, I’ve never understood getting on backs / being abusive during games. 

    Just seems so counterproductive 
    Yes, and No.

    For instance, I wasn’t at the game on Boxing Day and only watched it on Sky but from that ‘vantage point’, ironically one that Nathan would have had but from the other side of the pitch, there were a couple of moments where a bit of instant verbal feedback would/should have brought about improvements.

    Bree was clearly having one of those days where he couldn’t kick a dead ball. It happens. To continue to be the one/or let him be the one to let him to take the corners and free kicks in the forlorn hope he will eventually get one across was just plain daft. TBF, they eventually did try getting someone else to take a free kick but the ball still got passed to….Bree to ‘not’ get the ball across.

    TC, imo is an underrated talent that should have had PL clubs queuing up for him by now but probably because he is a reactive player and not a proactive one he tends to get left in no man’s land at times. He definitely needs a gee up imo, ideally from someone on the pitch and not off it though but in the absence of anybody else taking the lead then it’s always going to be down to the fans and, as for the idea of bringing him on for Bell….thats up there with bringing Miles on for Bell at Coventry imo and that coinciding with quickly turning a 1-0 lead into a 2-1 deficit.

    Personally, I thought we were having a good game on Boxing Day. It wasn’t pretty and our attacking play was non-existent or often borderline clueless yet again but I was thinking the gameplan was otherwise pretty solid and could have got us a 0-0 or even a late 1-0 win if it wasn’t for the misjudged substitution.

    With that sort of match I think it’s as much incumbent upon the fans to gee up any player or Nathan for that matter as and where necessary as it is to get behind them as much as possible.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,117
    edited 12:41PM
    MrOneLung said:
    The crowd has zero influence 
    The covid year proved this to be 100% false.
    There was little difference that year between results home & away.
    On average, season by season, the split is roughly 50% Home Win, 25% Away Win and 25% Draw.

    Teams set up differently home and away - that's a fact although for the life of me I've never fully understood why as the pitch is roughly the same size and the laws of the game apply wherever it is played. During the COVID season managers would have set up as if the game was being played on a neutral ground, hence little difference. That year, I believe that different tactics by managers was the defining factor, not the lack of a crowd.

    I think we all agree that the crowd has an effect, we are just disagreeing as to the extent.