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Why does T.Campbell keep getting selected
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TC maybe isn't the perfect player for an NJ team but even NJ fully understands we need him as an outlet. You can't always measure a player by goals and assists. What TC does is offer us something no one else does. He can beat a man, he does have pace, he can put the opposition on the back foot. Without him, we're basically reduced to the long ball and no one to take the pressure off our defence and put it on the opposition.
He works incredibly hard, he's very physically weak and he is clearly not a LWB. If you put TC in a side who dominate possession, have a coherent attack, overlapping full backs and threats across the pitch, I reckon he'd be one of the best attacking wide men in the Championship. Last season he struggled until Small came in the team and stretched the opposition across both flanks. That second half of the season, our attack was transformed, TC had more space and he was very threatening for several months. Now we're back to attacking down one flank or lobbing it to Leaburn. The opposition know TC is the threat, often double up on him, he regularly has no real support from his team mates. He's also a victim of his superior skills to his team mates. Not just they, but also the fans think he'll produce magic every time he gets the ball. Everyone is excited when he gets the ball and then moans when he hasn't cut inside past three players and curled it into the bottom corner. We know he can do that but when he's the sole focus of our attack, it makes it a lot harder for him. The fans do not carry the same lofty expectations when any other player in our team gets the ball because we know their limitations. TC is constantly criticised because everyone thinks he should be carrying this team.
Put him in a good team and I'm sure he's be excellent.7 -
He would good in a good team at times,not excellent, he doesn’t do a lot of the basics you expect from a winger either good enough or consistent enough,Making_all_the_noise said:TC maybe isn't the perfect player for an NJ team but even NJ fully understands we need him as an outlet. You can't always measure a player by goals and assists. What TC does is offer us something no one else does. He can beat a man, he does have pace, he can put the opposition on the back foot. Without him, we're basically reduced to the long ball and no one to take the pressure off our defence and put it on the opposition.
He works incredibly hard, he's very physically weak and he is clearly not a LWB. If you put TC in a side who dominate possession, have a coherent attack, overlapping full backs and threats across the pitch, I reckon he'd be one of the best attacking wide men in the Championship. Last season he struggled until Small came in the team and stretched the opposition across both flanks. That second half of the season, our attack was transformed, TC had more space and he was very threatening for several months. Now we're back to attacking down one flank or lobbing it to Leaburn. The opposition know TC is the threat, often double up on him, he regularly has no real support from his team mates. He's also a victim of his superior skills to his team mates. Not just they, but also the fans think he'll produce magic every time he gets the ball. Everyone is excited when he gets the ball and then moans when he hasn't cut inside past three players and curled it into the bottom corner. We know he can do that but when he's the sole focus of our attack, it makes it a lot harder for him. The fans do not carry the same lofty expectations when any other player in our team gets the ball because we know their limitations. TC is constantly criticised because everyone thinks he should be carrying this team.
Put him in a good team and I'm sure he's be excellent.1 -
Burke's always a huge injury risk whatever position he plays so by that logic he should never play again.Crispywood said:Nicholas said:No idea why we cant just play a back 5 of
Bree Burke Jones Gillesphie and Bell at wing back, he did fine there when he played there. Yes Gillesphie is shit but least its a back 5 of defenders.
TC needs to be kept away from defence. He is a winger not a defender not a striker but a winger. Jones doesn't like wingers so he shouldnt be playing him in this formation.
Well considering Macca put in a generational stinker and Bell is a huge injury risk, when he does play wingback because of the workload and if he gets injured it’s TC and Macca on the left that should answer the question
The back 5 I have mentioned is our strongest back 5 we have at the minute. Now Burke is gone again he should play Gough there but he wont he would rather move Bell there and make the defence even more lopsided and all over the place then what it already is.1 -
From the sharp super‑sub appearances recently where he came on to score and assist (key points were won), my guess is that his confidence will be pretty low once we strengthen the squad and push him further towards his natural position.
I feel for TC having to play LWB in the Championship, let alone in his first season.
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Bell can’t play wing back or he will just get injured again. The back 5 you mentioned has Bree and Bell at wing back, the Norwich game showed that is not enough attacking threat from wide areas. It worked alright earlier in the season because we had TC up front so he would be the threat from the left rather than BellNicholas said:
Burke's always a huge injury risk whatever position he plays so by that logic he should never play again.Crispywood said:Nicholas said:No idea why we cant just play a back 5 of
Bree Burke Jones Gillesphie and Bell at wing back, he did fine there when he played there. Yes Gillesphie is shit but least its a back 5 of defenders.
TC needs to be kept away from defence. He is a winger not a defender not a striker but a winger. Jones doesn't like wingers so he shouldnt be playing him in this formation.
Well considering Macca put in a generational stinker and Bell is a huge injury risk, when he does play wingback because of the workload and if he gets injured it’s TC and Macca on the left that should answer the question
The back 5 I have mentioned is our strongest back 5 we have at the minute. Now Burke is gone again he should play Gough there but he wont he would rather move Bell there and make the defence even more lopsided and all over the place then what it already is.Until we have a new LWB or Edwards back, we need to play either TC, Apter or Fullah there and with Bell (not Gillesphey!) behind them at LCB. That means if Burke is injured then Gough has to play or bring Zach Mitchell back to play there until we have a new CB or Ramsay/Burke back4 -
Berry shouldn't be starting at all agreed,runs around pulling everyone's shirt 2 yards off the pace every game.superclive98 said:
You're probably right. With Berry also starting it was like having 9 players!Steven81 said:
Playing with 10 men what a load of bollocks.Hydeaddick said:Could any of the Campbell fan club point out anything positive he has done during the first half. Really losing patience with him. It’s like playing with 10 players.2 -
I said to my mate in the pub yesterday- I fear he is the new C.Solly (a youth player being made to play LWB). What is worse with Campbell is he is not a defender.0
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I thought he played really well against Chelsea. Up against a £50m winger and for the first 30 minutes Chelsea thought he was the weak link defensively as they focussed most of their attacks that way. He was asked to do a job by NJ, sit deep and defend and he did it pretty well considering many deem him incapable of such things. Then after a set piece he found himself up against Garnacho but TC got the better of him a few times which was good fun! Well done lad! I hope he isn't injured and maybe it was cramp he was struggling with.
In normal league games if he is playing LWB, him getting "caught" up pitch is how we set up as a team and it's down to the rest of the team to cover for that and for TC to get back as quickly as possible.8 -
I said it before and this recent stint covering at LWB has made me even more sure that converting him to a striker has wasted 18 months of specific development. I actually feel a bit sorry for him.At LWB he has found himself high and wide in a few attacking moments, has drawn in the FB in, knocked it past and opened up the option to deliver.I feel he would have benefitted more from 18 months of finding different ways of getting in behind, working on double movements, really learning the triggers for wide scenarios and the variation of delivery.He’s not the smartest footballer so giving him a smaller range of options to master, that work to his strengths rather than his weaknesses (finishing) would surely have had him in a better position than he is in.The system doesn’t suit him, he’s not got the composure to finish, he’s not got the brain game to play inside or the defensive ability to play LWB.0
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I know what you mean about the striker thing, it could have been a waste of time. Maybe 18 months of learning to be an attacking LWB as you say he could also have been improving defensively too. He can defend ok for an attacking player so maybe teaching him to defend better would have been a better option than trying to turn him into a genuine forward player.drawnablank said:I said it before and this recent stint covering at LWB has made me even more sure that converting him to a striker has wasted 18 months of specific development. I actually feel a bit sorry for him.At LWB he has found himself high and wide in a few attacking moments, has drawn in the FB in, knocked it past and opened up the option to deliver.I feel he would have benefitted more from 18 months of finding different ways of getting in behind, working on double movements, really learning the triggers for wide scenarios and the variation of delivery.He’s not the smartest footballer so giving him a smaller range of options to master, that work to his strengths rather than his weaknesses (finishing) would surely have had him in a better position than he is in.The system doesn’t suit him, he’s not got the composure to finish, he’s not got the brain game to play inside or the defensive ability to play LWB.0 -
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Looking at the first 6 months of last season I think you might be right, but since then he’s basically been playing as a winger in possession for the second half of last season and the early part of this season.drawnablank said:I said it before and this recent stint covering at LWB has made me even more sure that converting him to a striker has wasted 18 months of specific development. I actually feel a bit sorry for him.At LWB he has found himself high and wide in a few attacking moments, has drawn in the FB in, knocked it past and opened up the option to deliver.I feel he would have benefitted more from 18 months of finding different ways of getting in behind, working on double movements, really learning the triggers for wide scenarios and the variation of delivery.He’s not the smartest footballer so giving him a smaller range of options to master, that work to his strengths rather than his weaknesses (finishing) would surely have had him in a better position than he is in.The system doesn’t suit him, he’s not got the composure to finish, he’s not got the brain game to play inside or the defensive ability to play LWB.I also think although he’s not developed as much as we might have hoped with the ball. There were definitely signs he was developing towards the end of last season, but going up a level means that development is less visible now because the championship is a lot tougher. I think the purple patch he had towards the end of last season would have been a lot more consistent this season if he’d have been in league 1 again. I think he’d have put up some good numbers.
I think overall though TC has absolutely transformed over the last 2 years so it’s definitely not a wasted 18 months. Out of possession he was a liability 2 years ago, whereas now it’s one of the main reasons he gets picked. Maybe Jones isn’t the coach to get TC to the next level with the ball, but without the ball he’s unrecognisable vs the TC of a couple of years ago.As for his future with us. It’s definitely uncertain, the rest of this season could see him going back to the hybrid LW/ST role, maybe more from the bench than starting now we have a Kelman-Leaburn partnership that looks promising. Or he could continue to be used at LWB, if we get the balance of the team right behind him it can definitely work and end up with him being more like a winger in possession. Personally I think it will be a bit of both, probably from the bench a bit more than he has been in this half of the seasonLong term, I think there’s a decent chance someone comes in and buys TC over the next year or so. If he goes to a team that plays 4-3-3 with a manager that can unlock a bit more from him with the ball, then combining that with what Jones has developed in him out of possession, he could be some player. Out of possession is so important these days so I think this 2 years under Jones was needed rather than wasted, but for the next step it is a shame but it might be better for him to leave us3
