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POST-MATCH THREAD: Millwall V Charlton Athletic: Saturday 24th January 2026: KO 12:30
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It was probably an indication of the lack of pace and drive from the first half. Your point is right though, but he brought Fullah on because he plays with no fear, unlike some of our shrinking violets.fenaddick said:The Fullah sub screwed us because he can only really play as a 10 or at a push on the wing but he doesn't have the bite needed for men's football yet. Once he's on the pitch you can't take him off though. If Chambers had to come off it should have been Clarke to LWB and Apter at RWB. You then have tactical flexibility and TC can stay high up the pitch and we have two wide outlets to stretch the pitch1 -
We should have got Azeez a couple of seasons ago……when Reading were desperate3
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I doubt it. Its his way or the highway. He wont change tactics, formation or personnel. It will be same old same old next Sat.DDOUBLEE said:
If he's so sorry then there has to be a genuine actual reaction against Leicester (if he's still here)fenaddick said:
Something had to change in Feb. 4 home games. We need at least 8 points from those games otherwise we are toast.7 -
Unfortunately not true today though - I thought Fullah looked the most scared of the lot.Bailey said:
It was probably an indication of the lack of pace and drive from the first half. Your point is right though, but he brought Fullah on because he plays with no fear, unlike some of our shrinking violets.fenaddick said:The Fullah sub screwed us because he can only really play as a 10 or at a push on the wing but he doesn't have the bite needed for men's football yet. Once he's on the pitch you can't take him off though. If Chambers had to come off it should have been Clarke to LWB and Apter at RWB. You then have tactical flexibility and TC can stay high up the pitch and we have two wide outlets to stretch the pitch6 -
Absolutely agree Golfie, but he needs to be from above our status not below, there is too much inexperience out there now.golfaddick said:
I think some people are unaware that he has been injured since last April & has only played 2 reserve matches this season.....both for around 60 mins just to check his fitness.ArmchairAddick said:Valley11 said:On the positive side
Chambers looked good.But wtf do you spend weeks knowing you need a lwb then sign an unfit one?
Madnessyeah not sure what the Chambers bashing is for. He made a couple of fluffs, but for a player bought in just a few days ago, and supposedly without much match fitness, he did pretty good. Passing was (mostly) decent, didn't seem afraid to stick a foot in and, most importantly, freed Campbell up to see the first half performance that he put in, which was excellent.
He was never going to come in & play 90 mins......and probably wont for a number of games.
He was always going to play just 45 -60 mins. And then someone (TC) would have to take over.
I agree we played ok but let Azeez run across him who then should have scored. We definitely need another left sided defender otherwise we'll just see TC at LWB all through Feb.0 -
Too much foundation that isElfsborgAddick said:DamoNorthStand said:Rodwell looked fuming at full time.
He's a miserable c*** at the best of times, if he ever smiled his face would crack.3 -
Fair points.addick_for_life said:At the beginning of the season where we played well we had a balanced midfield of Carey , Docherty and Coventry. Unfortunately we changed this and have since not got control of the midfield. Anderson works really hard and wins a lot of ball but gives the ball away to easy and RC ( apart from 2 games ) has been awful - walks around and points to people all the time but has no pace and does nothing . When Fullah comes on - a bit of headless chicken . Let’s hope we can get Carey , Doc and Coventry back in the team1 -
Unfortunately paying off a manager doesn't count against the Profit & Loss sustainability 😄valleynick66 said:NJ surely won’t be sacked.If we won’t pay for a better squad we aren’t going to pay a manager off.0 -
Clearly things are far from good on and off the pitch. I’ve backed NJ up to now but it seems he doesn’t have what it takes to install belief and/or to get the best from the players. Our form is dismal and our league position flatters us given the last two months. We are beyond an inspirational pep talk and a win turning the season around. We’re three games from being sucked into the bottom three and not sure many of us can see us scrambling out of that if that happens7
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Bollocks. Not having that.msomerton said:They did try, but they are just not good enough. TC the best of them, but his game hampered by having to play so deep. He must have covered every blade of grass.
Second half was a disgrace. The totally didn’t give a shit
We particularly went to pieces after the treble substitution.
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I can provide a positive from today - the cheeseburger I had with bacon and onions in the away end was very nice indeed10
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msomerton said:
Too late now to spend the money. Relegation nailed on, cannot see how we win unless teams go down to 8 or 9 players.mascot88 said:We are going down unless large sums of money is spent and potentially a change of manager.
We are not capable of competing at this level unless everyone is fit and playing out of their skin which they were for a handful of games at the beginning of the season when other teams hadn't got up to speed.
That was atrocious - by the end they were laughing at us and our ineptitude.We could bring in high end players, but any team that is struggling makes things difficult for new players coming in.Unless we offload players I'd not bring anybody in and meddle around with what we have.1 -
Lloyd Jones post match. It’s less than a minute, for all his flaws Doc would have shown some leadership and spent at least a minute apologising without prompting
https://youtu.be/eGhyMoS6F70?si=urdleu0jnS27wnqA
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On the plus side, this is the happiest I’ve ever seen golfie18
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Karminsky absolutely dire today. Have to give Mannion ago next week.
Gillesphey miles off the Championship, but we knew that in the summer.
Ramsey disappointing
Anderson tried so hard and I would love him to come good but he is just not up to it.
Dykes won one header all game. Baffles me why Leaburn did not start. Their CBs are huge, Leaburn would have given them more of a game and being a local lad would have known what the game meant.
Bringing in Fullah at half time killed us, and I said it would at the time
Bringing in Gooden was batshitcrazy and I said it at the time.
Dreadful management.15 -
Croydon said:Genuinely one of the most embarrassing and gutless performances you'll ever see from any side in a derby. Pair that with a manager who doesn't seem to have any clue what he's doing with initial set up or subs, and it's a recipe for disaster.
No leaders, no composure, no quality.
This lot love fucking glazing themselves over social media for beating 9 men 1-0, my advice would be they either apologise or stay very fucking quiet for the next few weeks.
How was The George mate, all good I take it?
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I'm still not in the Nathan Jones out brigade
But fuck me when I got on the train at South Bermondsey pretty much the whole carriage seemed to want him out.
I don't expect to get a result at Leicester next week, but if we don't start playing better and picking up points soon I can see the atmosphere at the valley becoming quite toxic14 -
It was, but it was £8 a pint, so I can't even see be positive about that!ElfsborgAddick said:Croydon said:Genuinely one of the most embarrassing and gutless performances you'll ever see from any side in a derby. Pair that with a manager who doesn't seem to have any clue what he's doing with initial set up or subs, and it's a recipe for disaster.
No leaders, no composure, no quality.
This lot love fucking glazing themselves over social media for beating 9 men 1-0, my advice would be they either apologise or stay very fucking quiet for the next few weeks.
How was The George mate, all good I take it?2 -
Also, I don't think we need to fear losing Ramsay in the window.Lordflashheart said:I can provide a positive from today - the cheeseburger I had with bacon and onions in the away end was very nice indeed10 -
I agree he didnt. It wasn't what he did on the pitch that was the problem. The problem was he couldn't last more than 45 mins. He has been out injured for months & only had a couple of U21 matches over the last couple of weeks. He is not match fit.....maybe even worse than Rousillion. The problem is he had to be replaced at HT & then we are back to same old same old with TC playing there.guinnessaddick said:
Probably our only choice. Didn’t think he did that bad in the first half.golfaddick said:
Shame Rodwell couldn't be challenged on that at the Q&A.DDOUBLEE said:And I'm not even having this bollocks that Chambers was supposedly our "first choice" to sign. No way.3 -
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As an optimist and someone who accepted we were going to find this season incredibly hard, I have to accept that was woeful.
I can’t recall us winning a tackle. We were absolutely not up for that at all and we seemed totally underprepared for every aspect: mentally, physically, tactically.
We can point to three goals in the last ten minutes but prior to that we could have been at least three down.We are not going to get out of this on our terms - we are going to need other teams to be just as bad, which, fortunately, a couple seemed determined to be.
This was different to the Southampton game where we were taken apart by fantastic foot all. Today we were blown away by a well organised, physically imposing and tactically superior team. I don’t think they broke sweat.
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So, did he tell you why he has dropped Docherty?sam3110 said:
Missing the point, it's about man management, not about who's actually the captainBigDiddy said:
So remove him as captain! He is simply not good enough.sam3110 said:
Doesn't matter if he's shite, it's clearly the way he's handled it. Docherty is the heartbeat of the squad, look at all the videos they do in preseason, behind the scenes in training, the random videos where they ask players who would be the best Traitor etc, he's integral to the morale of the squad, and you piss him off and ostracise him, it's gonna have an impact on the other playersBigDiddy said:
But Docherty was shite in most games I have seen.sam3110 said:So he says he motivates them and coaches them and it's on him, I wonder if he's put 2 and 2 together and realised that ever since he's seemingly frozen the club captain out, the side has lost a lot of it's form, desire and togetherness
Or are you saying the other 18 can’t perform without him?
Not saying Jones has not lost the dressing room, but Docherty’s absence is not why we are shite.
Our squad is weak and NJ is an average manager.
If the team has given up because of Docherty’s absence, then we really are fcuked.
Ramsey was a joke today and Macca is an accident waiting to happen - is that down to Doc’s absence ?
Grown men should act grown up - players get sold, loaned, dropped, sidelined, injured, suspended and replaced.
Thats football and you are clutching at straws if you think Doc’s absence is the cause of our decline.
He will probably recall him for the Leicester match, so let’s see how that goes2 -
But what footballer would want to play in such a joyless, negative way every single week!Valleyfan2 said:None of the players seem to have any self belief anymore and look terrified when they get the ball. Players don’t turn into bad players overnight, something has happened. Not sure Jones is capable of turning it around, players don’t seem to want to play for him any more.
The players look to have lost confidence in him, and also lost confidence in their own abilities as well, due to the dire football that the team is playing.
Jones seems to be so far up himself that he appears to deliberately do the exact opposite of what the fans think should be done. Anderson for Coventry today. Really!
A team that has produced next to nothing for weeks, yet still he refuses to play Apter.
Who is advising NJ?
Is anyone in his ear, trying to help him come to his senses? I cannot believe that Fleming and Hylton agree with some of his weird decisions lately.
But if what I am hearing is true, he has surrounded himself with yes men and therefore no one dares question him.
I'm really starting to wonder whether he actually still wants the job, or wants out.
He's not seeing what everyone else is seeing, that's for sure, because if he was, he'd know that you can't win a football match without scoring goals.
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Expected reactions but we have a habit of deciding players not being picked are the answer when the same players are not good enough when being played, JRC being a perfect example. Suddenly doc should be playing but how often was he not good enough in earlier games. Truth is we have a team who on their day can compete but there is little margin for drop off and too many are struggling to hit their best either from fitness or confidence.
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that match proves 2 things:
1: Millwall are a good Championship team
2: Charlton are not Championship standard
It comes down to 2 questions
1: Ownership - are they giving the manager the support he needs?
2: Management & Players - They did a great job achieving promotion - thanks, but do they have the ability and fortitude to consolidate in the Championship?
There are 2 relegation places up for grabs, we just need to ensure we are above them, there is no point in changing the management but with the transfer window open we need to improve the squad or we will be relegated, which means that owners and management must act now. As has been said the players did not look up for the fight in a match that should always provide a fighting performance, yes Millwall are good but we shouldn't have been that bad.
I did not expect a win today, also I did not expect such a toothless, inept performance. I do not expect the team to win at Leicester but after that we have 3 home games by which time the club must have put in place and acted upon a survival plan.13 -
Let’s be honest - this is a relegation team and manager.As much as I think Jones has done wonders for the club getting us promoted, I think the board will be thinking about getting rid. He’s had his players, he’s had support from the board and the fans, but the board need to make a big decision otherwise we’re gone, and I would not be surprised to see him go.1
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I stayed until the end and was back in my living room 15 minutes after the full time whistle, that’s my positive!Lordflashheart said:I can provide a positive from today - the cheeseburger I had with bacon and onions in the away end was very nice indeed0 -
Couldn’t agree more.👍lancashire lad said:that match proves 2 things:
1: Millwall are a good Championship team
2: Charlton are not Championship standard
It comes down to 2 questions
1: Ownership - are they giving the manager the support he needs?
2: Management & Players - They did a great job achieving promotion - thanks, but do they have the ability and fortitude to consolidate in the Championship?
There are 2 relegation places up for grabs, we just need to ensure we are above them, there is no point in changing the management but with the transfer window open we need to improve the squad or we will be relegated, which means that owners and management must act now. As has been said the players did not look up for the fight in a match that should always provide a fighting performance, yes Millwall are good but we shouldn't have been that bad.
I did not expect a win today, also I did not expect such a toothless, inept performance. I do not expect the team to win at Leicester but after that we have 3 home games by which time the club must have put in place and acted upon a survival plan.0 -
He only listens to the big man upstairs.queensland_addick said:
But what footballer would want to play in such a joyless, negative way every single week!Valleyfan2 said:None of the players seem to have any self belief anymore and look terrified when they get the ball. Players don’t turn into bad players overnight, something has happened. Not sure Jones is capable of turning it around, players don’t seem to want to play for him any more.
The players look to have lost confidence in him, and also lost confidence in their own abilities as well, due to the dire football that the team is playing.
Jones seems to be so far up himself that he appears to deliberately do the exact opposite of what the fans think should be done. Anderson for Coventry today. Really!
A team that has produced next to nothing for weeks, yet still he refuses to play Apter.
Who is advising NJ?
Is anyone in his ear, trying to help him come to his senses? I cannot believe that Fleming and Hylton agree with some of his weird decisions lately.
But if what I am hearing is true, he has surrounded himself with yes men and therefore no one dares question him.
I'm really starting to wonder whether he actually still wants the job, or wants out.
He's not seeing what everyone else is seeing, that's for sure, because if he was, he'd know that you can't win a football match without scoring goals.
And I don't mean Rodwell.6 -
That’s about as poor a performance under Jones as I can remember. An absolute capitulation at the end which is inexcusable.
The primary thing that I - and many others - loved about this team under Jones was that no matter what, week after week we would see 100% effort and fight. The football wasn’t always the most attractive, but we were hard to play against and determined. That has completely disappeared. I am not sure why; but that is very rarely a good sign and usually indicates bigger cultural issues.
I hope Jones can turn it around. I’d rather him than most other available options. But it’s a big ask.
We’ve all been so worried about the left side of our defence that the centre of the park has gone unnoticed. Huge week in terms of recruitment if we want to stay in this league.Team selection strange again. The constant changing is hard to understand; Coventry a guaranteed starter now in an out. JRC and Anderson getting three games in then three games out. None of them anywhere near the level today. Love Fullah, but he looked like a kid playing men’s football today. Ramsay’s deterioration continues.Leaburn out the team in the midst of a good run of performances for a one dimensional journeyman. TC our one positive outlet in the first half, shifted to wing back for a player they surely knew was only going to do 45mins. Then ten minutes into the second half it’s a triple change and a shift in tactics. That’s not good! It doesn’t take a genius to work out TC may struggle against one of the most direct right wingers in the league.Kaminski was poor today, his distribution was wayward. We played into their hands with the long ball but couldn’t get out our half playing it short. No positives from today.
We lack identity, come into games with poor tactical plans and have lost all fight and belief. A worrying recipe.7
