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So who are our new owners then? Board looking for new investors p14

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,679
    wolfgang said:


    Plus he oversaw the worst league position in our history.
    Worst in living memory yes, worst in our history, no as we finished 2nd bottom of Division 3 South in 1926.

    Thank you, Henry. We are fortunate to have someone like you from that era still alive and active to testify.
    Oi!  
  • HardyAddick
    HardyAddick Posts: 1,661
    I think they are at a small profit with the club now in The Championship. I know they are reaching out to certain people. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,163
    If our owners were sold a dream of Championship by next season and an ability to cut losses to £2M once there, will they hang around if we are relegated having seen the cut of losses was nonsense and being back in L1 so behind schedule in that outcome.... rhetorical really as only they know the answer.
    I seriously doubt they bought that dream tbh
  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,943
    If our owners were sold a dream of Championship by next season and an ability to cut losses to £2M once there, will they hang around if we are relegated having seen the cut of losses was nonsense and being back in L1 so behind schedule in that outcome.... rhetorical really as only they know the answer.
    They have said that we are ahead of schedule ie we got promoted earlier than planned.

    So that could mean they were'nt expecting to fund Championship losses this season but I've not seen or heard anything (not that I would) to suggest they are still committed.
    You’ve not seen anything to suggest the owners are still committed? 
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,904
    sammy391 said:
    If our owners were sold a dream of Championship by next season and an ability to cut losses to £2M once there, will they hang around if we are relegated having seen the cut of losses was nonsense and being back in L1 so behind schedule in that outcome.... rhetorical really as only they know the answer.
    They have said that we are ahead of schedule ie we got promoted earlier than planned.

    So that could mean they were'nt expecting to fund Championship losses this season but I've not seen or heard anything (not that I would) to suggest they are still committed.
    You’ve not seen anything to suggest the owners should be committed? 

  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 3,234
    If our owners were sold a dream of Championship by next season and an ability to cut losses to £2M once there, will they hang around if we are relegated having seen the cut of losses was nonsense and being back in L1 so behind schedule in that outcome.... rhetorical really as only they know the answer.
    How can you cut loses to two million pounds a season, when the average loss in the Championship is fifteen million pounds a season. 
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 5,156
    msomerton said:
    If our owners were sold a dream of Championship by next season and an ability to cut losses to £2M once there, will they hang around if we are relegated having seen the cut of losses was nonsense and being back in L1 so behind schedule in that outcome.... rhetorical really as only they know the answer.
    How can you cut loses to two million pounds a season, when the average loss in the Championship is fifteen million pounds a season. 
    By not investing much in the squad, trimming back office staff and increasing ticket prices…😉☹️

    Well the steps may have been tried but losses may not be quite as anticipated. 

    Still every penny counts. 


  • Saw something on the other site saying one of the owners had pulled the plug on their investment. Pretty sure there was a similar rumour last year which was nothing in the end. 

    Has anyone heard something about this? 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 15,143
    Saw something on the other site saying one of the owners had pulled the plug on their investment. Pretty sure there was a similar rumour last year which was nothing in the end. 

    Has anyone heard something about this? 
    People are putting 2+2 together and getting 5 because they're seeking some investment and we haven't paid a fee yet. I suspect the wages we are paying Clarke, Dykes and Chambers would easily counter the idea any of the owners have withdrawn funding
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,959
    It's come from a couple of people thinking that no money has been spent in this window so the American's have pulled the plug, there is absolutely no evidence for it, and just seems to a few peoples fever dream 

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  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,817
    edited January 27
    msomerton said:
    If our owners were sold a dream of Championship by next season and an ability to cut losses to £2M once there, will they hang around if we are relegated having seen the cut of losses was nonsense and being back in L1 so behind schedule in that outcome.... rhetorical really as only they know the answer.
    How can you cut loses to two million pounds a season, when the average loss in the Championship is fifteen million pounds a season. 
    By not investing much in the squad, trimming back office staff and increasing ticket prices…😉☹️

    Well the steps may have been tried but losses may not be quite as anticipated. 

    Still every penny counts. 


    There wasn’t much that could have been cut, but it would have been easy to massively overstate the potential for commercial growth, given how badly the business side had been run for a decade and the lack of local knowledge in the structure.

    I suspect we will see this lesson learned the hard way, if it isn’t being already, possibly with price increases that lead to falling revenue if we stay up.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,677
    fenaddick said:
    Saw something on the other site saying one of the owners had pulled the plug on their investment. Pretty sure there was a similar rumour last year which was nothing in the end. 

    Has anyone heard something about this? 
    People are putting 2+2 together and getting 5 because they're seeking some investment and we haven't paid a fee yet. I suspect the wages we are paying Clarke, Dykes and Chambers would easily counter the idea any of the owners have withdrawn funding
    Expect there is a bit of a loan fee for Chambers and Clarke too. Champ loans generally arent free.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 5,156
    Further price rises would be suicidal id think. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,679
    Saw something on the other site saying one of the owners had pulled the plug on their investment. Pretty sure there was a similar rumour last year which was nothing in the end. 

    Has anyone heard something about this? 
    Would that be the same site that said Cal McNair was putting in £20m?
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,817
    edited January 27
    Further price rises would be suicidal id think. 
    I agree, although the price structure is still flawed as a legacy of Ben Kensell’s interference. There are far too many price points, for a start. Look at those ridiculous “gold” and “silver” price grids in the toilets. That alone should tell you the structure is ridiculously complicated.
  • HardyAddick
    HardyAddick Posts: 1,661
    Saw something on the other site saying one of the owners had pulled the plug on their investment. Pretty sure there was a similar rumour last year which was nothing in the end. 

    Has anyone heard something about this? 
    Not heard anything about this
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,137
    edited January 27
    Further price rises would be suicidal id think. 
    I agree, although the price structure is still flawed as a legacy of Ben Kensell’s interference. There are far too many price points, for a start. Look at those ridiculous “gold” and “silver” price grids in the toilets. That alone should tell you the structure is ridiculously complicated.
    ST's will be an even harder sell at L1 level if we do go down, and they will probably be at the same post-early bird discount general sale price they were after our promotion last year. Nearly £500 quid for a non-family area middle of the road price season ticket. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,024
    10% of Wrexham has just been sold to atletico Madrid's American VC owners for £48m....

    Interesting to have as a benchmark 
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,396
    Saw something on the other site saying one of the owners had pulled the plug on their investment. Pretty sure there was a similar rumour last year which was nothing in the end. 

    Has anyone heard something about this? 
    I'm still waiting for the 20 million war chest to materialise ... 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,981
    MarcusH26 said:
    10% of Wrexham has just been sold to atletico Madrid's American VC owners for £48m....

    Interesting to have as a benchmark 
    Probably helps that they’re in the playoff places. 

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  • MarcusH26 said:
    10% of Wrexham has just been sold to atletico Madrid's American VC owners for £48m....

    Interesting to have as a benchmark 
    Utterly insane. Got to be some serious fall out from all of this at some point. £480M valuation on essentially, a non league club in stature.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,024
    edited January 27
    MarcusH26 said:
    10% of Wrexham has just been sold to atletico Madrid's American VC owners for £48m....

    Interesting to have as a benchmark 
    Utterly insane. Got to be some serious fall out from all of this at some point. £480M valuation on essentially, a non league club in stature.
    It's an absolutely bonkers valuation. Most of the recent Prem club TOs have changed hands for less. 

    This feels like it's all going to go horribly horribly wrong at some stage. 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 11,563
    No TV series runs forever. When that goes, the global merch sales will drop, the matchday revenue will still be low. And sponsorship revenue in reality is a drop in the ocean in terms of club valuation etc. Whilst clear of the commercial revenue we will deliver, my business' software breaks down Wrexham's current portfolio (presumably if they stay in the champ, or even go up, these will increase but an average Champ front of shirt will still be no more than £7-800k).


  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,163
    MarcusH26 said:
    10% of Wrexham has just been sold to atletico Madrid's American VC owners for £48m....

    Interesting to have as a benchmark 
    So Wrexham is worth half a billion quid?
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,024
    sam3110 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    10% of Wrexham has just been sold to atletico Madrid's American VC owners for £48m....

    Interesting to have as a benchmark 
    So Wrexham is worth half a billion quid?
    Yeah on that valuation. 
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 809
    sam3110 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    10% of Wrexham has just been sold to atletico Madrid's American VC owners for £48m....

    Interesting to have as a benchmark 
    So Wrexham is worth half a billion quid?
    bargain, I'll take two.
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,895
    gringo said:
    sam3110 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    10% of Wrexham has just been sold to atletico Madrid's American VC owners for £48m....

    Interesting to have as a benchmark 
    So Wrexham is worth half a billion quid?
    bargain, I'll take two.
    Only one Wrexham I'm afraid. Would you be interested in Ryll FC instead?

  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 1,336
    gringo said:
    sam3110 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    10% of Wrexham has just been sold to atletico Madrid's American VC owners for £48m....

    Interesting to have as a benchmark 
    So Wrexham is worth half a billion quid?
    bargain, I'll take two.
    Only one Wrexham I'm afraid. Would you be interested in Ryll FC instead?

    Think I'll have a bit of Total Network Solutions myself.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 24,055
    sam3110 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    10% of Wrexham has just been sold to atletico Madrid's American VC owners for £48m....

    Interesting to have as a benchmark 
    So Wrexham is worth half a billion quid?
    Roland now expecting 500 million for the valley 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,163
    Never mind Wrexham, you could probably buy most of North Wales for half a billion quid!