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Conor Coady Signs On Loan From Wrexham

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  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,935
    It also coincides with Bell coming back for Gillesphey, Clarke settling in and us having a natural left back again.

    Oh not suggesting he's out saviour by any, but so far he's not the past it disaster I was expecting based on the reviews. 

    Docherty and Carey running around him helps too.



  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,191
    Think he’s perfect for us. Wins a lot in the air in midfield, gets on second balls, and when he has time he gets it down and plays, rarely giving it away. Masterstroke from us signing him for this role and I hope we sign him permanently
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,588
    An excellent signing, just when we needed leadership in the middle.

    It gives time for CC Junior to recover, and maybe also watch and learn about his passing in that position as it just that bit tighter and controlled. 
  • Ronseal.
  • The Scouse busquets.

    great to have a pivot that can pick a pass, rather than Anderson who looks to pass backwards/sideways in that position. Does a lot of very good positional play too. 
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,801
    I'll admit I wasn't completely sold on his signing. But posted the below on the post match thread.

    Coady at CDM may just be the "Small at RWB" moment for this season. Will need to see it against 11 men whether it holds up but essentially having him there to drop into the back line allows both wing backs to play with a little more freedom and to get up the pitch more. Width on both sides and crossing ability makes us a completely different prospect going forwards and gives our strikers more space and more to work with.

    Coady there to organise and dictate play in midfield and defence whilst also being all over the ref will be key at the business end of the season if we are in a relegation battle. He has a decent range of passing too. 
    This.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,801
    Its not just his experience/game management and always being in the ref's ear that reminds me of Pratley. Even his running style with his long gangly arms makes me think of the great man!
  • We're probably seeing eleven players at the moment, that are working so well and are getting results because they're working as a unit and as a team should. 

    IF we were to start having injuries again, then I reckon that gaps would show in this eleven again and we wouldn't be as strong... and think that Coady could be one of those who'd perhaps stand out and struggle a bit more... Or if we were facing a team with pace. 

    That being said, Stoke have been using Nzonzi who they've dug up from the dead and are using him in similar fashion. So its not like we're being revolutionary by having an experienced / steady hand ahead of the Defence
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,952
    The Scouse busquets.

    great to have a pivot that can pick a pass, rather than Anderson who looks to pass backwards/sideways in that position. Does a lot of very good positional play too. 
    We've done well this window replacing young players who have potential with proper experienced versions of the same sort of thing. Olaofe has been swapped for a bloke who has nearly 200 appearances target manning in the Championship, Anderson has seen a player with over 100 Championship appearances in holding midfield take his place and Apter has been swapped for a player who has been promoted to the Premier League as a key player at Right back. We've loaned out the young hopefuls to give them more game time elsewhere and brought in some proper nasty, bald, experienced bastards to get us through the difficult second half of the season. Should hopefully work out in everyone's favour
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,547
    Feels harsh on Coventry to lose his place as I'm not sure he did a lot wrong, Jones did say he was playing through injury.

    Coady deserves to keep the spot though - for a player who's legs had apparently gone, he's played two lots of 90+ minutes as a holding midfielder in the Championship and helped us keep 3 clean sheets. He obviously doesn't have pace, but you don't perform like that without having the fitness and commitment to compete at this level to go with his quality and experience.

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  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,731
    It also coincides with Bell coming back for Gillesphey, Clarke settling in and us having a natural left back again.
    This in the main. Not trying to diminish the job Coady has done but I don't think results would've been much different had Coventry been playing. Settled defence was what worked for us at the start of the season and is doing so again now. Fingers crossed Bell stays fit.
  • TheHerminator
    TheHerminator Posts: 1,022
    Talal said:
    It also coincides with Bell coming back for Gillesphey, Clarke settling in and us having a natural left back again.
    This in the main. Not trying to diminish the job Coady has done but I don't think results would've been much different had Coventry been playing. Settled defence was what worked for us at the start of the season and is doing so again now. Fingers crossed Bell stays fit.
    Respectfully disagree with you here. Coady's range of passing and ability to keep the ball moving forward is ahead of Cov's at the moment. It's Connor's biggest development area for me, and to be fair something he's really starting to improve on.

    How nice to have Coady in there at the moment though, and if and when he gets tired/overrun we can bring on a bright young talent in Cov. 
  • Scoham said:
    Feels harsh on Coventry to lose his place as I'm not sure he did a lot wrong, Jones did say he was playing through injury.

    Coady deserves to keep the spot though - for a player who's legs had apparently gone, he's played two lots of 90+ minutes as a holding midfielder in the Championship and helped us keep 3 clean sheets. He obviously doesn't have pace, but you don't perform like that without having the fitness and commitment to compete at this level to go with his quality and experience.
    Wrexham will be a good game for Coventry, he needs to come back into the team flying a bit. Terrible timing for Conor though, as he equally needs the minutes to stake a place in the Irish squad for their Play-Off matches coming up, especially with Cullen out injured.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,046
    edited February 12
    His lack of legs aren't really a problem in this position because we defend so narrow, there isn't a lot of space around him and he doesn't have to move too much. He's really helped solidify us and he's not only physically stronger than Coventry, his passing is a few steps above him. Seems like he is helping everyone around him play with more confidence. 
  • Talal said:
    It also coincides with Bell coming back for Gillesphey, Clarke settling in and us having a natural left back again.
    This in the main. Not trying to diminish the job Coady has done but I don't think results would've been much different had Coventry been playing. Settled defence was what worked for us at the start of the season and is doing so again now. Fingers crossed Bell stays fit.
    Respectfully disagree with you here. Coady's range of passing and ability to keep the ball moving forward is ahead of Cov's at the moment. It's Connor's biggest development area for me, and to be fair something he's really starting to improve on.

    How nice to have Coady in there at the moment though, and if and when he gets tired/overrun we can bring on a bright young talent in Cov. 
    The pair of you can see who is right at the end of the month when we play Wrexham. Assume Coady will not be allowed to play in that game.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,786
    Coventry gets a start, only to run into every single poster on Charlton Life comparing him to Dobbbbbbo. Christ I hope we beat those twats 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,937
    Scoham said:
    Feels harsh on Coventry to lose his place as I'm not sure he did a lot wrong, Jones did say he was playing through injury.

    Coady deserves to keep the spot though - for a player who's legs had apparently gone, he's played two lots of 90+ minutes as a holding midfielder in the Championship and helped us keep 3 clean sheets. He obviously doesn't have pace, but you don't perform like that without having the fitness and commitment to compete at this level to go with his quality and experience.
    Coventry lacks the positional know-how that Coady brings .  I do think Coventry could do what Docherty is doing , better .  
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,464
    wmcf123 said:
    Scoham said:
    Feels harsh on Coventry to lose his place as I'm not sure he did a lot wrong, Jones did say he was playing through injury.

    Coady deserves to keep the spot though - for a player who's legs had apparently gone, he's played two lots of 90+ minutes as a holding midfielder in the Championship and helped us keep 3 clean sheets. He obviously doesn't have pace, but you don't perform like that without having the fitness and commitment to compete at this level to go with his quality and experience.
    Coventry lacks the positional know-how that Coady brings .  I do think Coventry could do what Docherty is doing , better .  
    I don't think so, Coventry doesn't have the engine of Docherty, or the dogged determination and leadership.

    On 89 mins last night the ball was cleared long, and TC and Dykes both kind of stood there and didn't press it at all, and it was Doc who ran 60 yards just to get in the face of the Stoke players so they had to hurry the long ball forward.

    Coventry would have been holding station in front of the back 3 on the edge of his own box
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,046
    Leuth said:
    Coventry gets a start, only to run into every single poster on Charlton Life comparing him to Dobbbbbbo. Christ I hope we beat those twats 
    No need for comparison, there is none ;)
  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,352
    Didn’t like this signing at all, but he’s certainly showed me - not sure I would want to sign him permanently though. He’s on massive wages at Wrexham and I’d like to think we can get a better & younger player for the sort of money he’d be wanting.

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,547
    wmcf123 said:
    Scoham said:
    Feels harsh on Coventry to lose his place as I'm not sure he did a lot wrong, Jones did say he was playing through injury.

    Coady deserves to keep the spot though - for a player who's legs had apparently gone, he's played two lots of 90+ minutes as a holding midfielder in the Championship and helped us keep 3 clean sheets. He obviously doesn't have pace, but you don't perform like that without having the fitness and commitment to compete at this level to go with his quality and experience.
    Coventry lacks the positional know-how that Coady brings .  I do think Coventry could do what Docherty is doing , better .  
    Not sure about that, reading the game, intercepting, positional sense etc are some of Coventry’s strengths. His fitness levels and work rate are good too.

    In this league I think it’s more that he’s not the most physical or strongest in the tackle, and his passing range isn’t as good as it could be for a player in that holding role.

    It would be interesting to see him in Docherty’s role, but I think he does suit playing as the deepest CM where he can get the ball off the defence, rather than being more box to box and making runs to support the attack.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,786
    Coventry lacks positional ability, work rate, determination and engine? The slander continues. It will never end. 

    He's been playing through injury, and Coady is better aerially and is a wonderful organiser, which suits us at a time we're looking to make the game very direct. I'm sure Coventry will get plenty of minutes in some midfield role - when fully fit, he covers every blade and reads the game beautifully. And if his passing style of recycling possession doesn't work right now, when we have a bit more confidence it may 
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,462
    If we wanted to buy him, what’s his price? 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,786
    I also semi-privately believe that a fully fit Coventry could absolutely do Docherty's job, albeit with less 'forth, men!' charging into the opposition final third only to shank it out :P

    But it really comes down to character, not ability right now. Jones wants his Leaders on the field. Coventry's time will come again 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,786
    sam3110 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Scoham said:
    Feels harsh on Coventry to lose his place as I'm not sure he did a lot wrong, Jones did say he was playing through injury.

    Coady deserves to keep the spot though - for a player who's legs had apparently gone, he's played two lots of 90+ minutes as a holding midfielder in the Championship and helped us keep 3 clean sheets. He obviously doesn't have pace, but you don't perform like that without having the fitness and commitment to compete at this level to go with his quality and experience.
    Coventry lacks the positional know-how that Coady brings .  I do think Coventry could do what Docherty is doing , better .  
    I don't think so, Coventry doesn't have the engine of Docherty, or the dogged determination and leadership.

    On 89 mins last night the ball was cleared long, and TC and Dykes both kind of stood there and didn't press it at all, and it was Doc who ran 60 yards just to get in the face of the Stoke players so they had to hurry the long ball forward.

    Coventry would have been holding station in front of the back 3 on the edge of his own box
    Like, have you never seen Coventry be the one to run the whole field and close the goalie down? I mean, you absolutely have, because he does it quite often
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,161
    I'll admit I wasn't completely sold on his signing. But posted the below on the post match thread.

    Coady at CDM may just be the "Small at RWB" moment for this season. Will need to see it against 11 men whether it holds up but essentially having him there to drop into the back line allows both wing backs to play with a little more freedom and to get up the pitch more. Width on both sides and crossing ability makes us a completely different prospect going forwards and gives our strikers more space and more to work with.

    Coady there to organise and dictate play in midfield and defence whilst also being all over the ref will be key at the business end of the season if we are in a relegation battle. He has a decent range of passing too. 
    This.
    Can't believe you just quoted yourself like that lol.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,302
    Coady is on 25k a week at Wrexham no chance we pick him up permanently. If he continues this form Jones is less stubborn on loan policies and he wants to come back can see a world where we try and get him back 
  • Gisappointed
    Gisappointed Posts: 1,147
    Humble pie from me although I did assume he was signed as a defender. But £25pw means thanks and goodbye come May.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,547
    Coady is on 25k a week at Wrexham no chance we pick him up permanently. If he continues this form Jones is less stubborn on loan policies and he wants to come back can see a world where we try and get him back 
    We may start paying that sort of wage in the summer, we probably already have players on £15-20k a week. The likes of Kaminski are unlikely to have joined and take a big pay cut.