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I am going to say it!! Yes I am, Nathan Jones......................
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didn't he walk out of them in 10th position and they got promoted to the Prem ?? yes subsequently a double relegationCallumcafc said:
We all know you dislike him but I would warn you - there were Luton fans just like you two or three years ago.The Red Robin said:If we stay up, should we still get rid and aim higher? Or at least aim for something resembling a style to our football?1 -
He's back!Nicholas said:
Imagine if the football he served up was as good as his pathetic hissy fits or his touchline antics for the cameras, we would be quite exciting to watch.sammy391 said:NJs outburst last night
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx-kXkvvbXW5FiogHDx8oYuz9semWte1eQ?si=YlSZfY9sfnYmZdMr0 -
My point is its exactly the same football, nothing will change next year as its the same as last year.elbiglad said:
It was effective. We won a lot of games. Got promoted. Ask teams like Bolton and Barnsley where pretty football in league one gets you. Not sure when we became such snobs!shine166 said:
Was the football pretty in league 1 ?CAFCBourne said:The footballs dire but the aim this year is survival by any means.
We've negated our attacking game to achieve this.
The concept Jones is stuck rigid with formation is wrong. We started the season with a flat back 4 but the injury to Edwards forced our hand.
As the season wore on its quite clear that despite our defence being our strongest asset it is only because we sacrifice the attacking game to make it so. We don't have 2 centre backs that could play as a pair without getting exposed.
That coupled with 2 defensive midfielders effectively means we have 7 defensive minded players out there. I'm sure he would like to free the shackles but as we have seen when we revert to a back 4 like Millwall (Last 30) we get exposed for our defensive frailties.
This season has and will remain about grinding out enough to have another revamp next season should we get over the line Jones knows where the issues lay.Did you enjoy us trying to play out under Ben Garner? With Ryan Inniss picking the ball up in the penalty box?0 -
Who was this directed to?sammy391 said:NJs outburst last night
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx-kXkvvbXW5FiogHDx8oYuz9semWte1eQ?si=YlSZfY9sfnYmZdMr0 -
I think he spotted Nicholas in the crowd .....J BLOCK said:
Who was this directed to?sammy391 said:NJs outburst last night
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx-kXkvvbXW5FiogHDx8oYuz9semWte1eQ?si=YlSZfY9sfnYmZdMr6 -
I think there’s a big difference between the football we were playing at the end of last season vs start of last season vs now. Maybe not in the play offs itself but the second half of the season I can’t remember any comments about how we were playing. I’m sure the aim is to get to that in the championship but it’s not something that is going to happen overnightshine166 said:
My point is its exactly the same football, nothing will change next year as its the same as last year.elbiglad said:
It was effective. We won a lot of games. Got promoted. Ask teams like Bolton and Barnsley where pretty football in league one gets you. Not sure when we became such snobs!shine166 said:
Was the football pretty in league 1 ?CAFCBourne said:The footballs dire but the aim this year is survival by any means.
We've negated our attacking game to achieve this.
The concept Jones is stuck rigid with formation is wrong. We started the season with a flat back 4 but the injury to Edwards forced our hand.
As the season wore on its quite clear that despite our defence being our strongest asset it is only because we sacrifice the attacking game to make it so. We don't have 2 centre backs that could play as a pair without getting exposed.
That coupled with 2 defensive midfielders effectively means we have 7 defensive minded players out there. I'm sure he would like to free the shackles but as we have seen when we revert to a back 4 like Millwall (Last 30) we get exposed for our defensive frailties.
This season has and will remain about grinding out enough to have another revamp next season should we get over the line Jones knows where the issues lay.Did you enjoy us trying to play out under Ben Garner? With Ryan Inniss picking the ball up in the penalty box?
Personally I couldn’t care less how we play, as long as it’s successful and so far it has been0 -
I'm not so sure. There's some high quality sluggers out there for those with deeper pockets.shine166 said:
My point is its exactly the same football, nothing will change next year as its the same as last year.elbiglad said:
It was effective. We won a lot of games. Got promoted. Ask teams like Bolton and Barnsley where pretty football in league one gets you. Not sure when we became such snobs!shine166 said:
Was the football pretty in league 1 ?CAFCBourne said:The footballs dire but the aim this year is survival by any means.
We've negated our attacking game to achieve this.
The concept Jones is stuck rigid with formation is wrong. We started the season with a flat back 4 but the injury to Edwards forced our hand.
As the season wore on its quite clear that despite our defence being our strongest asset it is only because we sacrifice the attacking game to make it so. We don't have 2 centre backs that could play as a pair without getting exposed.
That coupled with 2 defensive midfielders effectively means we have 7 defensive minded players out there. I'm sure he would like to free the shackles but as we have seen when we revert to a back 4 like Millwall (Last 30) we get exposed for our defensive frailties.
This season has and will remain about grinding out enough to have another revamp next season should we get over the line Jones knows where the issues lay.Did you enjoy us trying to play out under Ben Garner? With Ryan Inniss picking the ball up in the penalty box?
Just look at Millwall!0 -
I understand that, I didn't think you were. Maybe I misread your post but I always expected Portsmouth to be a bit of a banana skin. Perhaps if we had maintained our record at their place, I might have been cocky, but once that went I felt they might smell blood.AndyG said:
I wasn’t digging the teamor NJ out mate0 -
We can all deal with losing. It’s the manner of the defeats that is troubling. And it’s reasonable to question how far this style of football can take us.NabySarr said:
Would be absolute madness to get rid of Jones. Some of our fans honestly deserve league 1. He’s taken us from 20th in league 1 to 18th in the championship in 2 years and it’s still not enough for some people. The entitlement and tantrum every time we lose a game is embarrassingThe Red Robin said:If we stay up, should we still get rid and aim higher? Or at least aim for something resembling a style to our football?1 -
I don’t dislike Nathan Jones actually. He’s done a great job for us. I wouldn’t sack him. Not right now. But I do think he has a ceiling.Callumcafc said:
We all know you dislike him but I would warn you - there were Luton fans just like you two or three years ago.The Red Robin said:If we stay up, should we still get rid and aim higher? Or at least aim for something resembling a style to our football?2 -
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They were 9th, one point outside the playoffs after 20 played and had finished 6th the previous season with Jones winning Championship manager of the season.oohaahmortimer said:
didn't he walk out of them in 10th position and they got promoted to the Prem ?? yes subsequently a double relegationCallumcafc said:
We all know you dislike him but I would warn you - there were Luton fans just like you two or three years ago.The Red Robin said:If we stay up, should we still get rid and aim higher? Or at least aim for something resembling a style to our football?
Not convinced Rob Edwards didn’t just ride the squad Jones built for a couple dozen games and then it crashed and burned the following summer onwards.0 -
Strange bloke aint yaOff_it said:
He's back!Nicholas said:
Imagine if the football he served up was as good as his pathetic hissy fits or his touchline antics for the cameras, we would be quite exciting to watch.sammy391 said:NJs outburst last night
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx-kXkvvbXW5FiogHDx8oYuz9semWte1eQ?si=YlSZfY9sfnYmZdMr0 -
Well is wasn't you who he spotted was itOff_it said:
I think he spotted Nicholas in the crowd .....J BLOCK said:
Who was this directed to?sammy391 said:NJs outburst last night
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx-kXkvvbXW5FiogHDx8oYuz9semWte1eQ?si=YlSZfY9sfnYmZdMr0 -
Seriously how can you want NJ to be in charge. Notwithstanding his antics when we win his behaviour after Stoke but most importantly last night against a fan in the covered end after the game was manic. You have to worry if this at times is transferred to the players. We all can pick formations and players but I feel his ability to recognise his formation is being worked out by other managers is poor. We of course have no divine right to win every game and it's often said that survival this season would be a win. The reality however is that last minute winners plus typically the luck against Sheffield United have kept us out of the bottom 3. The football is not pretty and not inventive enough plus yesterday against pompey there was little fight. Yes NJ did great to get us out of Division 1 but it's the championship now (obviously) and too often his team is lacking. For me he has to go.0
