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  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,360
    Just hope we get Bundesliga/WC Qualifying Kane, this summer and not Euros 22 Kane
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 11,807
    All jokes aside with the betting scandal - but Toney needs to be playing Prem / La Liga / Serie A / Bundesliga football at this stage of his career. He is only 29 - would be a lock for the WC squad.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,471
    Ivan Toney ceased to be taken seriously as a professional top level footballer the moment he upped and went to play in that park league. He could and should score 50 a season there, the standard is shit, beyond shit its a complete statistic padding exercise for 40 whatever year old Ronaldo and other oldies who want a tax free massive retirement fund (fair play) but nobody playing there can be taken seriously 
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,504
    I'd still take Toney... outside of Kane and Watkins all of our strikers are wank, he at least offers something different 
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,414
    I’d go as far as saying he’s the greatest English footballer of all time at this point.

    He just needs that one international trophy to make it a non-debate.
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,301
    cafctom said:
    I’d go as far as saying he’s the greatest English footballer of all time at this point.

    He just needs that one international trophy to make it a non-debate.
    Bobby Charlton for me unless, like you say, Kane wins a trophy.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,414
    WSS said:
    cafctom said:
    I’d go as far as saying he’s the greatest English footballer of all time at this point.

    He just needs that one international trophy to make it a non-debate.
    Bobby Charlton for me unless, like you say, Kane wins a trophy.
    It’s interesting, because let’s say England’s other players had scored their penalties in the shootout in 2021 against Italy then he’d have a trophy. 

    After captaining us to 2x WC tournaments (soon to be 3), 2x Euro finals and becoming our greatest ever goal scorer it would be a crying shame if he retires without at least one major international honour. 
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,513
    CAFCsayer said:
    I'd still take Toney... outside of Kane and Watkins all of our strikers are wank, he at least offers something different 
    Just thinking back to the days of Shearer etc. I remember picking a fantasy league team at work. Nothing fancy, no prices, budgets etc. We just took turns picking the players we wanted. I got first pick and took Shearer. By the time my turn came round again I was still able to pick Andy Cole and every other player, bar one, had picked an English striker. Wish we still had that sort of depth now! Imagine Kane not being available and still being able to pick someone like Cole, Wright, Ferdinand, Sheringham, Fowler, Owen, Sutton etc. 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 11,807
    Rizzo said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    I'd still take Toney... outside of Kane and Watkins all of our strikers are wank, he at least offers something different 
    Just thinking back to the days of Shearer etc. I remember picking a fantasy league team at work. Nothing fancy, no prices, budgets etc. We just took turns picking the players we wanted. I got first pick and took Shearer. By the time my turn came round again I was still able to pick Andy Cole and every other player, bar one, had picked an English striker. Wish we still had that sort of depth now! Imagine Kane not being available and still being able to pick someone like Cole, Wright, Ferdinand, Sheringham, Fowler, Owen, Sutton etc. 

    A lot of that was due to the prominence of 4-4-2. Every team played 2 out and out strikers which hardly ever happens now in the prem. So that has halved the pool straight away.
  • cafctom said:
    WSS said:
    cafctom said:
    I’d go as far as saying he’s the greatest English footballer of all time at this point.

    He just needs that one international trophy to make it a non-debate.
    Bobby Charlton for me unless, like you say, Kane wins a trophy.
    It’s interesting, because let’s say England’s other players had scored their penalties in the shootout in 2021 against Italy then he’d have a trophy. 

    After captaining us to 2x WC tournaments (soon to be 3), 2x Euro finals and becoming our greatest ever goal scorer it would be a crying shame if he retires without at least one major international honour. 
    True, but as well as winning the World cup, Bobby Charlton also won the European Cup and a Ballon D'or (and was runner up twice). 

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  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,471
    The international trophy or lack of is a harsh milestone 

    He has led us to two major finals and a world cup semi final. Previous to that, 2 semi finals and nothing since 1996 

    He's walked past a goalscoring record that stood for decades before Rooney, who a lot of people put up as a great England player even if I think he was a bit of a flat track bully at international level 

    Even if he packs in tomorrow he has been the best England player of the last 60 years at least 
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,414
    cafctom said:
    WSS said:
    cafctom said:
    I’d go as far as saying he’s the greatest English footballer of all time at this point.

    He just needs that one international trophy to make it a non-debate.
    Bobby Charlton for me unless, like you say, Kane wins a trophy.
    It’s interesting, because let’s say England’s other players had scored their penalties in the shootout in 2021 against Italy then he’d have a trophy. 

    After captaining us to 2x WC tournaments (soon to be 3), 2x Euro finals and becoming our greatest ever goal scorer it would be a crying shame if he retires without at least one major international honour. 
    True, but as well as winning the World cup, Bobby Charlton also won the European Cup and a Ballon D'or (and was runner up twice). 
    Bobby Charlton wasn't playing for Tottenham though  :D
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,418
    Another two tonight.

    Best player in the world.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,560
    Another two tonight.

    Best player in the world.
    You’ve not watched Collins Sichenje yet?
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,812
    Needs 15 more goals to reach 60 club goals for the season.

    In my lifetime only Ronaldo and Messi (both twice) have reached that total, although Messi had that ridiculous season where he got 73.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,560