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POST-MATCH THREAD: Sheffield Wednesday v Charlton Athletic: Saturday 18th April 2026: KO 15:00

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  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 7,427
    Norwich - Should've got at least a point
    Bristol City - Should've got at least a point
    Watford - Let a lead slip
    Preston - Let a lead slip, should've held out for at least a point
    Wednesday - Let a lead slip

    It's very frustrating and we should already be safe, but we've been in every one of the last 5 games. We just need to do it once more. 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,692
    Sword65pf said:
    I’m even more angry with Charlton as I now find myself wanting Wrexham to win😤
    Wait for the last game of the season when you'll be wanting Millwall to win 🤢
    God I hadn’t thought of that!!😂
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  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 25,316
    I hope the owners have got about £3m ready. 
    We need a clear out of all the crap. 
    You’re missing a zero
  • Nothing less then a total overhaul required, especially midfield and up front 
  • _uptheaddicks
    _uptheaddicks Posts: 304
    Maybe a congrats on reaching 50 points is deserved?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 99,456
    Nothing less then a total overhaul required, especially midfield and up front 
    Thought we were going down? - Shouldn't need a "total" overhaul as a League One team
  • queensland_addick
    queensland_addick Posts: 7,644
    edited April 18
    Jones safety first matra appears to have lead to a collective fear on the ball.

    Very rarely do any of our players exhibit any flair, skill, or anything exciting.
    Only right at the very end did Clarke show us that he can actually dribble the ball.

    Likewise Bree started out being exciting and productive and ended up being a boring, nothing player, who's now turning it on once again at Southampton.

    JRC comes in for a few minutes here and there, shows skill and forward thinking, but cannot ever get a run in the team.

    I believe these players are better than they are currently showing and that is most likely due to Jones focus on keeping us up, and therefore keeping his job.

    If he manages to keep us up then we can hopefully re set and start playing some decent football again next season, having signed 2 or 3 quality players.

    One more point with superior goal difference should be enough, and if we can't do that then we probably don't deserve to stay up.


  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 66,032
    Should’ve won that 3-0 or 3-1. It’s the Charlton way.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,597
    I hope the owners have got about £3m ready. 
    We need a clear out of all the crap. 
    £3m ????

    Try £30m. 
    For us to get the type of quality needed , you'd need to break the club transfer record a couple of times so I'd probably say that's not too far off Golfie

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  • Nothing less then a total overhaul required, especially midfield and up front 
    Thought we were going down? - Shouldn't need a "total" overhaul as a League One team
    An overhaul would still be required, this team does not have the ability to play proactively 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,420
    edited April 18
    What was Lloyd Jones so angry about at the end? The fans for booing or his own teammates?
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,569
    The starkest reminder that if we do manage to limp our way to safety (🤞), this team has reached its ceiling and we need to be replacing quite a few by the looks of it.

    I don’t expect 11 signings like last summer, but I do worry that too many of this team will still be in and around the starting XI come next season.

    None of Burke, Gillesphey, Docherty, Coventry, Carey, JRC, Knibbs, Kelman, Leaburn and TC are good enough to consistently start next season, that’s a lot of players that either need to be moved on to free up space for better, or, at best, be used sparingly as squad players.

    I don’t think Oxford will all 3 of their remaining games, 7 points will also be a push, given Wrexham are right back in the play off picture after Hull slipped up today, and Millwall may go to Oxford with a faint of hope of second, but at the very least will want to finish positively going into the play offs.

    It’s up to Jones to motivate them to work hard for the last 3 games.  We are incapable of beating teams taking the game to them and are so poor with the ball, that he needs to focus on us being hard to beat, organised and hopefully get 2 points out the next three.  That should be enough.  Given how limited we are on the ball, that’s how I think we need to approach these final three games.  
  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 709
    Awful. If we stay up we have to give Jones another season ...
    Why?

    Need to spend 10-12 million quid to have a realistic chance of staying up next season, and then far from guaranteed.

    After our pathetic summer buys last year, would the owners trust Jones with their money? I would not.
  • wolfgang said:
    Awful. If we stay up we have to give Jones another season ...
    Why?

    Need to spend 10-12 million quid to have a realistic chance of staying up next season, and then far from guaranteed.

    After our pathetic summer buys last year, would the owners trust Jones with their money? I would not.
    Need more than that to be competitive in this league. Fees for bag average championship players is in the millions 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 12,113
    MarcusH26 said:
    I hope the owners have got about £3m ready. 
    We need a clear out of all the crap. 
    £3m ????

    Try £30m. 
    For us to get the type of quality needed , you'd need to break the club transfer record a couple of times so I'd probably say that's not too far off Golfie
    Also think we need to scour the European market as well. Look far more at the likes of the Eredivisie and Belgian Pro League. 

    Someone like Sichenje only cost £2m but on the ball he looks head and shoulders above our other defenders and whatever league we are in next year he should be starting.

    I want to see the next JBG and (minus RD of course) what I wouldnt give for another Yoni Buyens etc.

    I went to watch PSV vs Utrecht when I was in the Netherlands a couple of weeks ago. Loads of talent on show.
  • Redvalleyeast
    Redvalleyeast Posts: 5,041
    What was Lloyd Jones so angry about at the end? The fans for booing or his own teammates?
    Didnt show that. Cant imagine he'd be too happy with his teamates so must be that. Those fans there had every right to boo. Its cost them a fortune to get there and back today and were served up a crock of shit. 
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,413
    Lacklustre performance from just about everybody, If Mannion can get over to Chiselhurst tomorrow the Gordon Arms have a game and need GK. 
    TC flat footed and zero impact same as Leaburn. 
    Only Godden moment of composure saved us from what would have been not only a disaster but total embarrassment by a northern pub team.
  • Can I add to what is a moan zone tonight. Why do people buy tickets in the first row and then stand? The match hardly got us off our seats anyway. We were second row by choice, but another irritant on a low day. Good night

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,642
    Kaminski at Stoke, Portsmouth away and home.
    Mannion today and at home to Bristol City

    Actual gifting of points. 

    Really poor today Will. You obviously don't need a cap in the sun, so catch the bloomin' ball or punch it to safety. 
    Individuals make mistakes. It happens it’s inevitable and it’s how an awful lot of goals are scored up and down the leagues every weekend. It’s a problem when someone makes too many mistakes but no one makes zero.

    The problem for us isn’t so much that any one player is a bag of calmities waiting to happen, it’s that every mistake that leads to a goal stands out like a sore thumb with an amber beacon on the end because we have scored 2 or more goals in a game just four time this season, and only once in 2026, way back on January 31st.

    That means almost all errors that have lead to goals against have also lead to dropped points. The defence has more than done its bit to keep us up this season, but you simply cannot expect it to keep a clean sheet every week in order to win matches. 
    Agreed. You are going to make mistakes at the back during the game, and sometimes you'll get punished. That's why even the best teams let in goals. But conceding a single goal shouldn't prevent you winning. 

    Before Wednesday scored, you could feel it coming as we got deeper and deeper, not closing down the crossers of the ball, and just relying on defending our box, but that's a tough ask for 25 minutes, even against a week team. 

    And we had no control of that game. Wednesday had way too much space to knock it around, we made them look a decent side. In the first 30 we were so weak down our right hand side, and should have conceded a penalty. And at the back, they had things pretty easy for most of the game. Weird that we attempted to press in number for the first time in the 90th minute.
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,805
    The task was to get a squad with bottom three quality outside of that bottom three, whatever anyone thinks of todays performance, that, barring a miracle for Oxford and Leicester, has been achieved. It probably should have been settled a few weeks back but it's where we are as a side. A word about todays fall guy, Will Mannion, on one hand, people demanding his inclusion are now settling down with some well deserved humble pie, probably the same people who stated we wouldn't get promoted without Alfie May, but there is one thing that people are missing, we have won one home game since his inclusion and that was at home to Birmingham, we have lost every home game since,  we haven't won a game since Birmingham and our defence has looked shit, coincidence ? maybe.
  • twiggyaddick
    twiggyaddick Posts: 1,639
    That was absolutely atrocious, like really atrocious, thank god we got Matty or we might be done for. 

    These last 6 games have told me siginificent changes need to be made
  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,455
    edited April 18
    If Jones can't get the team up for a crucial game like this against a side with an abysmal record then there has to be a serious problem. 

    I know we have a small budget but the football we play - and that must be to orders - is defensive and wretched to watch. Since the Stoke game have won 2 and drawn 5 from 12.  We have scored nine goals in that time 

    If we do stay up - and we should have enough to just about hold on - then there has to be massive rethink over the summer. We are not, as I thought until recently, a few players, mainly up front light. We seem to have a fair number who are simply not good enough, and that allied to a manager without a Plan B has left us still fretting when we should have been safe weeks ago.
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,628
    I’m a fan of TC but he looked disinterested when he came on….Clarke was poor and arguing with his own players……what was up with the footwear today…our players looked like Bambi 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 12,113
    Bailey said:
    The task was to get a squad with bottom three quality outside of that bottom three, whatever anyone thinks of todays performance, that, barring a miracle for Oxford and Leicester, has been achieved. It probably should have been settled a few weeks back but it's where we are as a side. A word about todays fall guy, Will Mannion, on one hand, people demanding his inclusion are now settling down with some well deserved humble pie, probably the same people who stated we wouldn't get promoted without Alfie May, but there is one thing that people are missing, we have won one home game since his inclusion and that was at home to Birmingham, we have lost every home game since,  we haven't won a game since Birmingham and our defence has looked shit, coincidence ? maybe.

    I dont get it and havent understood this complacency for weeks.

    Leicester maybe - but it's not going to be a miracle for Oxford to beat Wrexham at home (Sheff Weds are useless and the worst team in the history of the league so thats a given). And its also not a miracle if we lose at home to Ipswich and Hull. They are much better than us and we couldnt even beat Preston and Bristol City.

    So no we are not down, but its not like we are safe bar for a calamitous set of circumstances. Us losing our two games, Oxford winning and then being above us on goal difference - is very very possible.
  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,455
    cabbles said:
    The starkest reminder that if we do manage to limp our way to safety (🤞), this team has reached its ceiling and we need to be replacing quite a few by the looks of it.

    I don’t expect 11 signings like last summer, but I do worry that too many of this team will still be in and around the starting XI come next season.

    None of Burke, Gillesphey, Docherty, Coventry, Carey, JRC, Knibbs, Kelman, Leaburn and TC are good enough to consistently start next season, that’s a lot of players that either need to be moved on to free up space for better, or, at best, be used sparingly as squad players.

    I don’t think Oxford will all 3 of their remaining games, 7 points will also be a push, given Wrexham are right back in the play off picture after Hull slipped up today, and Millwall may go to Oxford with a faint of hope of second, but at the very least will want to finish positively going into the play offs.

    It’s up to Jones to motivate them to work hard for the last 3 games.  We are incapable of beating teams taking the game to them and are so poor with the ball, that he needs to focus on us being hard to beat, organised and hopefully get 2 points out the next three.  That should be enough.  Given how limited we are on the ball, that’s how I think we need to approach these final three games.  
    On the other hand Millwall might rest players if their play-off position is sorted and think they would love a result that saw us going down
  • robroy
    robroy Posts: 4,666
    edited April 18
    I will bet my house on Millwall not winning on the final day. No chance 
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,394
    Our football and style of play is awful. Hoofball and long balls, we’ve been found out in this league. Sheff Wednesday posed hardly any threat but we still manage to hand them a goal, absolute dog shite. Can’t wait for the season to be over. Doc and that entire midfield can go in the summer. 
  • ken from bexley
    ken from bexley Posts: 5,161
    Well yes survival was the prime objective, but we are on a hell of a poor slide of form at present.
    One of many issues for me is that Jones seems to have no answer to this poor run of form. 
    Well, we may well survive, but as most of the posters on here seem to be saying, rebuild as soon as as we are mathematically safe~?