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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Ipswich Town: Wednesday 22nd April 2026: KO 19:45

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  • Lewis Coaches
    Lewis Coaches Posts: 5,562
    mogodon said:
    If we manage to stay up - and suspect that’s in Oxford’s hands not ours - we need a fairly substantial overhaul in the summer. Too many of the squad not good enough for this league. To be honest, not sure the manager is either. On that cheery note, we go again Saturday 
    Would like to like this more than once.
  • dmccart32
    dmccart32 Posts: 92
    edited April 22
    Yeah we can all point to Pompey and Blackburn away, but on the flip side what about our 96th penalty at Oxford. These things tend to even themselves out.

    i think it’s more the lack of quality we have in the squad. We’ve got a L1 loanee  who whilst thought he did ok tonight, he’s up against players worth £20m! Not his fault, just not good enough overall.
  • Moto
    Moto Posts: 97
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  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 12,181
    ns9 said:
    Big C said:
    IR94 said:
    If Ipswich win their game in hand and the other, then the last game of the season will be a nothing match for Millwall, as they won't be able to better their goal difference. We are in trouble.
    Millwall are only three points ahead of Southampton and Middlesbrough, both of whom have better Goal Difference
    They're going to want to beat Leicester, and then get a result against Oxford to surely cement 3rd at the very least?
    They might not need to get anything last day. If Middlesbrough don't win Saturday, and Ipswich beat West Brom Saturday and then their game in hand against Southampton Tuesday, then Ipswich will be guaranteed 2nd and Millwall guaranteed 3rd going into the last day (Ipswich will be too far clear on GD and Millwall wouldn't be able to be caught).

    Millwall will rest their entire first team against Oxford on the last day in that scenario you'd think.

    We need to get the point Saturday, otherwise we're in trouble.


    100% this. Millwall will likely make wholesale changes and Oxford will need to win. If we don’t settle it on Saturday then we are in a horrible predicament 

    This really sums up where my minds been for weeks. It feels like we have been sleepwalking into this situation with the players on the beach post Boro.

    It just feels like the whole club was in safe mode whilst the others around us were fighting.

    And we haven’t been able to readjust to a relegation battle 
  • Simple- we do not score but have decent strikers.
    Kelman not played enough. Jones plays Campbell. How many goals, assists , matching winning performances from Campbell this season?
  • MarcusH26 said:
    Grovenuts said:
    That nailed on point at Pompey that we managed to fuck up is looking more and more costly!!
    And 2-0 up at Blackburn.
    Now this is really the one. 2 really really poor goals to concede and they were there for the taking. 
    that one sticks in my head so much the second goal i think leaburn had to go to the sideline after an injury and then kelman had it in the corner and swang in a cross to where leaburn should have been, blackburn broke away and scored. baffling, why would you even bother crossing it you know your strike partner isnt on the pitch, we do things like that and it seems to happen oh so often its really braindead. 
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,233
    Simonsen said:
    Whether we stay up or go down, there is a strong case to change the manager in the close season. The football is so grim.
    Very unlikely to happen in the summer, but if he has a bad August/September he could be on thin ice. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,692
    We were doing well tonight until the injuries fucked us over. I don't know what people wanted NJ to do but Dykes for TC at half time seemed obvious to me. The other subs did seem to affect our rhythm but by then the damage was done. Silly mistake by Gilly but Kaminski should have saved the pen. Tonight was no where near as bad as the recent home defeats to Preston, Norwich, Bristol City. Play the same Saturday, score more than once and we may come away with a point but Hull will be right up for it. Docherty was outstanding tonight with Fev not far behind. Thought Sichendje did well but tired which isn't surprising.

    The really annoying thing is that table after Boro. I wish it had t been posted, it's a depressing viewing.

  • ns9
    ns9 Posts: 70
    ns9 said:
    Big C said:
    IR94 said:
    If Ipswich win their game in hand and the other, then the last game of the season will be a nothing match for Millwall, as they won't be able to better their goal difference. We are in trouble.
    Millwall are only three points ahead of Southampton and Middlesbrough, both of whom have better Goal Difference
    They're going to want to beat Leicester, and then get a result against Oxford to surely cement 3rd at the very least?
    They might not need to get anything last day. If Middlesbrough don't win Saturday, and Ipswich beat West Brom Saturday and then their game in hand against Southampton Tuesday, then Ipswich will be guaranteed 2nd and Millwall guaranteed 3rd going into the last day (Ipswich will be too far clear on GD and Millwall wouldn't be able to be caught).

    Millwall will rest their entire first team against Oxford on the last day in that scenario you'd think.

    We need to get the point Saturday, otherwise we're in trouble.


    100% this. Millwall will likely make wholesale changes and Oxford will need to win. If we don’t settle it on Saturday then we are in a horrible predicament 

    This really sums up where my minds been for weeks. It feels like we have been sleepwalking into this situation with the players on the beach post Boro.

    It just feels like the whole club was in safe mode whilst the others around us were fighting.

    And we haven’t been able to readjust to a relegation battle 
    Absolutely spot on. I couldn’t agree more 
  • crookester
    crookester Posts: 1,522
    Simple- we do not score but have decent strikers.
    Kelman not played enough. Jones plays Campbell. How many goals, assists , matching winning performances from Campbell this season?
    May not technically be an assist but his reactions and strike led to our goal today. We were also much worse when he went off.

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  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,571
    This was the table after Boro... How on earth are we the only club outside the bottom 3 still with a chance of going down!?

    We’re not. Pompey are still in the mix and thanks to their shellacking at Coventry yesterday we could now potentially lose our last two but stay up on difference if Pompey also lose their last two but by no more than one goal difference better than us.

    The general point that we should not be in this situation still stands though. 
    Ok, I take all this back and will go wipe the egg off my face - for some reason my Sky Sports app randomly showed me Pompey as level with us in games played and points but on two worse goal difference. Seems to have been fixed now, but too late to stop me looking a plum!
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,785
    we played decent first half compared to the dross we've served up for most of the season , we're shit but will stay up this season

    98% safe 
    2% the big R


    100% still the crappiest south east london football team, again and again forever and ever
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,726
    Dazzler21 said:
    shine166 said:
    Are we still saying keep the faith? Still confident but it’s never easy is it - don’t like the thought of potentially relying on a Millwall result on the final day. 

    The Kenyan is appalling BTW 

    You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
    Seriously!?! 😂😂 Convince me I’m wrong about Collins, I assume it’s the Kenyan comment you’re on about. 

    He wasn’t great tonight & I’ve not been convinced other than his debut, I’m allowed my opinion like you’re allowed a Palestine flag on your profile picture 👍🏼
    I don't think he's as good as many suggest, but he's certainly not appalling. Average maybe. 
    He made some good interceptions & brought the ball forward well. But he can't cross the ball (not really expect him to - he's a Centre half) and has a rash challenge in him. 


  • gmantaxi
    gmantaxi Posts: 457
    Silly fuckers wanting an Ipswich, let’s see what happens at Swansea…..
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,571
    Destiny seems determined to make so we will need Millwall to get a result vs Oxford for we stay and up and doubtless so they can sneak. Automatic promotion. Feels like we’re just not allowed nice things sometimes. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,726
    IR94 said:
    If Ipswich win their game in hand and the other, then the last game of the season will be a nothing match for Millwall, as they won't be able to better their goal difference. We are in trouble.
    Millwall are only three points ahead of Southampton and Middlesbrough, both of whom have better Goal Difference
    They're going to want to beat Leicester, and then get a result against Oxford to surely cement 3rd at the very least?
    Saturday week will be the one & only time that I don't want Millwall to lose. 
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,233
    Form guide sums it up really, weve been diabolical since the Boro win especially at home. 


  • I think we are going to have to rely on Millwall not losing to Oxford.
    Call me mad but I have a feeling that Oxford will not beat Wendies.
    Can't see us getting a point in our remaining two games. That 2nd half was just typical Jones-ball and not a single shot on target when we needed a goal. Shockingly poor.
  • Big C
    Big C Posts: 201
    Bailey said:
    Big C said:
    IR94 said:
    If Ipswich win their game in hand and the other, then the last game of the season will be a nothing match for Millwall, as they won't be able to better their goal difference. We are in trouble.
    Millwall are only three points ahead of Southampton and Middlesbrough, both of whom have better Goal Difference
    They're going to want to beat Leicester, and then get a result against Oxford to surely cement 3rd at the very least?
    They might not need to get anything last day. If Middlesbrough don't win Saturday, and Ipswich beat West Brom Saturday and then their game in hand against Southampton Tuesday, then Ipswich will be guaranteed 2nd and Millwall guaranteed 3rd going into the last day (Ipswich will be too far clear on GD and Millwall wouldn't be able to be caught).

    Millwall will rest their entire first team against Oxford on the last day in that scenario you'd think.

    We need to get the point Saturday, otherwise we're in trouble.


    Did you not think that Millwall and Middlesborough and Southampton will want to have pole position when it comes to who and where they play their first game. Those teams need to win, and you need to factor in Ipswich playing two away games at West Brom and Southampton, before their final home game against QPR, once again those teams need to win, or they face losing out. Football is never as straight forward as it looks. 

    The thing is, other than the Southampton Ipswich game, it all looks pretty likely. Best case scenario for me is they all win this weekend, and then Southampton beat Ipswich. Then there would be 3 pts between 2nd and 5th on the last day, and all 4 could go up in 2nd. Millwall would have to go full steam into that then, not just for 2nd but to get 3rd/4th and a home 2nd leg in playoffs, as they could end up 5th if they lose due to their inferior goal difference.

    Hopefully it doesn't matter and we get the point Saturday, or Wednesday do us a favour (unlikely).

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  • jonseventyfive
    jonseventyfive Posts: 3,505
    Standard of our football is dreadful. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,726
    Need Sheffield Wednesday or Millwall to stop Oxford then. Because we’re not getting another point this season. Not a single shot at goal in the entire second half is appalling. 
    Desperately need Millwall to win at Leicester on Friday so they will have a chance of automatic promotion when they come to play Oxford.

    And I hate saying that.
    But they won't have if Ipswich win their next two games. They will be three points behind coming into the final game with a far inferior goal difference. 
    Ipswich play WBA on Sat & then their game in hand is against Saints next Tuesday. 

    They could win the first & lose (or draw) the 2nd. Saints could do the same. 

    Millwall can still go into their last game against Oxford with 2nd place still up for grabs. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,692
    Need Sheffield Wednesday or Millwall to stop Oxford then. Because we’re not getting another point this season. Not a single shot at goal in the entire second half is appalling. 
    Desperately need Millwall to win at Leicester on Friday so they will have a chance of automatic promotion when they come to play Oxford.

    And I hate saying that.
    But they won't have if Ipswich win their next two games. They will be three points behind coming into the final game with a far inferior goal difference. 
    Ipswich play WBA on Sat & then their game in hand is against Saints next Tuesday. 

    They could win the first & lose (or draw) the 2nd. Saints could do the same. 

    Millwall can still go into their last game against Oxford with 2nd place still up for grabs. 
    Could BUT I said if Ipswich win their next two games.
  • crookester
    crookester Posts: 1,522
    edited April 23
    We started like the Charlton that finished last season and started this season, full of aggression and a high press, defence not sitting back so the midfield weren't isolated, Doc and Coventry working their nuts off, Campbell and Kelman full of menace and the long balls being thoughtful passes into the channels rather than just lofted towards the centre forward's head. Sichenje was immense, Gillesphey was having a good game, Fevrier a threat and Bell and Jones solid.

    The problems started with Bell going off, leaving Gillesphey exposed and then TC having to go off injured at half time.  We didn't come out for the second half, dropping back deep and resorting to aimless lumps forward. Ipswich deservedly took the lead, albeit via a stupid mistake.  We then made a strange substitution for a team that's losing, taking off Kelman for Carey, leaving us with one forward on the pitch and using up a precious substitution slot. As Sichenje tired, his passing suffered badly and I think Godden got injured before he even touched the ball. 

    A usually glass half full poster, I'm really fed up of losing every home game and can't quite believe we're still in danger after being practically safe 7 games ago. I don't think Oxford take 6 points from their last two games but really don't want to still be in the mix on the last game of the season.
  • bromleyjohn
    bromleyjohn Posts: 6,020
    We are where we are because we don’t have a fit striker of merit in our team. Our season was symbolised by godden limping his way through the last 20 minutes.
  • dicktracey
    dicktracey Posts: 338
    Was expecting a spanking so slightly encouraged but Hull need maximum points too .... only hope is Swansea holding us for a point.  Millwall will still need 3 points too so let's hope are friendly neighbours do us a favour.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,600
    Doc, rightfully, MOTM in the lounge

    He was immense tonight. Fevrier too put in a great shift.
    Docherty led by example tonight and it’s frustrating that he can’t turn in that sort of performance on the ball more often.  He was breaking up play but then starting moves in the first half when he won the ball, and followed up well for the goal albeit got a fortunate deflection.  If that was what we got from him every week then you can make a case for him playing a part next season.  

    Fevrier was also up for it and tried hard. I felt he was let down by the lack of movement when he got the ball.  There were a number of times he looked up and had no choice but to run at two defenders.

    We got a great and fortunate start, and from my perspective we did try and I felt the team were working hard against a very, very talented Ipswich team.  The riches they have in terms of players that can move the ball is something we can only dream of.

    Bit worried for Saturday given the loss of Campbell, Bell and I’m sure Godden had we not used up all our subs.  I don’t necessarily think TC is up to it at this level, but if he doesn’t play, then we really do lack any sort of pace up top.

    In the context of the last 7 games we’ve really let ourselves down, but tonight had a bit of spirit and fight, we were up against a very good side.  If we can show that sort of effort in the next 2, I do believe we have a point in us.  Anything less than 100% fight and we’re relying on Sheff Weds or Millwall.  

    Hopefully we’ve done enough come 2.30 Sat afternoon, but it’s still on a knife edge and we’ve got to get behind them on Saturday.  I’ve no doubt the crowd will be up for it, we might just need a little more to help the team 
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,529
    Can't fault the effort of the players, just lacking serious cutting edge and a final ball

    Referee was appalling again and affected the game 

    Hope the injuries are not bad 
  • Melrose
    Melrose Posts: 847
    Simple- we do not score but have decent strikers.
    Kelman not played enough. Jones plays Campbell. How many goals, assists , matching winning performances from Campbell this season?
    Err!! One tonight!! When Cambell doesnt play, is played in the wrong position (often) or is subbed (often) we have NO PACE upfront. The problem is.......JONES!!!