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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Ipswich Town: Wednesday 22nd April 2026: KO 19:45
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Could it be that they eased off as some realise that they either won't be here, or be first choice next season?CharltonManor1966 said:
I honestly think some of our players knew they were off at the end of the season and have eased off. I reckoned NJ has even eased off as he thought we had enough points on the board.DamoNorthStand said:ns9 said:
100% this. Millwall will likely make wholesale changes and Oxford will need to win. If we don’t settle it on Saturday then we are in a horrible predicamentBig C said:
They might not need to get anything last day. If Middlesbrough don't win Saturday, and Ipswich beat West Brom Saturday and then their game in hand against Southampton Tuesday, then Ipswich will be guaranteed 2nd and Millwall guaranteed 3rd going into the last day (Ipswich will be too far clear on GD and Millwall wouldn't be able to be caught).ForeverAddickted said:IR94 said:If Ipswich win their game in hand and the other, then the last game of the season will be a nothing match for Millwall, as they won't be able to better their goal difference. We are in trouble.Millwall are only three points ahead of Southampton and Middlesbrough, both of whom have better Goal DifferenceThey're going to want to beat Leicester, and then get a result against Oxford to surely cement 3rd at the very least?
Millwall will rest their entire first team against Oxford on the last day in that scenario you'd think.
We need to get the point Saturday, otherwise we're in trouble.This really sums up where my minds been for weeks. It feels like we have been sleepwalking into this situation with the players on the beach post Boro.
It just feels like the whole club was in safe mode whilst the others around us were fighting.
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Sky Sports +eastterrace6168 said:
Middlesboro v Watford is on Sky Sports +, no sign of us being on...CharltonManor1966 said:
Everytime our game is on Sky, our attendance is lower? I presume our early kick off on Saturday will be on Sky as well so be lucky to get 15,000ct_addick said:Lame looking attendance as well…I know midweek games are tough but would expect fans to show up for a big game…let’s hope they show up and support the team Saturday2 -
For those thinking it was a soft penalty. Watching the "highlights" I noticed that all our players just turned away in disgust. None of them complained about the decision. That tells you all you need to know.10
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I thought it was a penalty in real time, albeit a soft onecharltonbob said:
Thought I was the only one, looked like he just threw himself to the floor to me. Difficult for the ref but if you're not 100% sure you shouldn't be giving itJamesSeed said:Horrible match. Ipswich are a league above us in terms of both budget and quality, admittedly, but they injured our two best attacking threats with poor challenges - and we desperately need them fit to stay up.They also had a player booked for simulation. One camera angle showed that the penalty was also simulation. Macca foolishly laid a hand on him, but not enough to anything like bring him down; but, just like Jack Clarke, it looked on the replay that he did the old ‘stiff leg’ trick. I’d have to see it again to be sure, but I think VAR would have overruled it and given him a booking.Naive of Macca though, either way.
Can’t stand Ipswich. Hope they stay down.
I don't think Oxford have anything like enough to win both their remaining matches, but with all the injuries I’m not expecting us to even pinch a draw from ours. It’s very worrying that we’ll probably have to rely on another team not winning to stay up.
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Our players simply don’t have the quality. We sit too deep and invite trouble, we lack confidence, we don’t play good football, struggle to string passes together and create very few chances, scoring even less. Our defensive vulnerabilities have been clearly and consistently highlighted. Yet we continue with a formation that isn’t working, but don’t seem to have a technical team that can do anything other than continue with a formation that Jones effectively bumped headlong into due to injuries at the end of 24.
That said since I saw my first game in 1968 we have had years of worry about whether Charlton would even exist, and stretches in league 1/Div 3, so to have a side in the Championship this year after the last few seasons has been an absolute joy. I have every faith we will hang on and survive in this division, and I hope we are serious about the upcoming summer transfer window, as a bad one will mean a quick return to League 1. BUT we still have a great club and it has a future. We just gotta hope we build from here and keep going forward, however slowly. We have Hull and Swansea and a point will do it, time to be half full.7 -
No, was just left out as we had Dykes and Berry on the bench 🤦🏽♀️ross1 said:Is Leaburn injured? I have not read anything about him1 -
Personally, I think they will always be given as penalties, but as you say Gillesphey ran in a straight line & the Ipswich player ran across him tripping them both up.AFKABartram said:Personally I feel Gillesphey has been getting some very OTT comments on the penalty. You’d think he had made a career defining howler from some of the comments. I don’t think Bell barely registered a comment for his similar / worse one at Leicester with Fatawu that could have gone on to cost us the game.
Ipswich proved all through the game they were extremely ‘professional’ in knowing how to win free kicks. Probably the most this season. The guy cross Gillesphey deliberately seeking contact then instantly kicked one foot against the next. It’s easy in hindsight saying Gillesphey should have gone nowhere near, but if he hadn’t and they went on to score from it he would have got rinsed for that as well.
In truth the Ipswich player was the fouler and he also threw himself to the ground.
The ref and most of us were conned.4 -
Nathan Jones didn’t dispute it post-match either.DRAddick said:For those thinking it was a soft penalty. Watching the "highlights" I noticed that all our players just turned away in disgust. None of them complained about the decision. That tells you all you need to know.2 -
Starting to worry me Golfie. You are talking a lot of sense recently!golfaddick said:
The more I read on here & think about it the subs bench baffles me. There was no replacement for TC, no wide man or pace. But we had Berry, Knibbs & Carey all sitting there - all very similar in so much as they are midfielders who could nick a goal when coming on but aren't going to be an outlet or run at defences with the ball.killerandflash said:Losing to Ipswich is no disgrace. They have a massive budget, and a squad full of quality. Indeed I'd argue that they've slightly underperformed this season, considering their resources and stability.
I'd suggest that there's a slight similarity between last night and Arsenal's lose at City. In both cases the biggest issue isn't the performance in the defeat which was an improvement, it's the performances in the previous games. For all the jokes about Arsenal choking, are we any different? Six games after Boro, none of them against top six sides, and we failed to win any of them. 3 home games before last night that we lost by a single goal.
The draw at Wednesday was such a limp performance, if we had started like we did last night on Saturday, I don't think their defence would have coped. For 30 minutes, we looked like a decent football team.
Injuries badly affected us last night, but NJ really needs to look against at his Plan B, and his bench selection. For the last 25 minutes, we endlessly just lumped it into the box from the half way line, but those balls are so easy for decent defenders to clear. We never changed it up, passing it wide to find a better angle to cross the ball in, which might have dragged defenders out.
Carey was busy when he came on, but was having to play deep or out wide, so well away from the goal. Knibbs is a presence in the box, but do we need Dykes, Knibbs and Lloyd Jones all as targets in the box?
Surely you would only need 2 out of those 3 with the 3rd place going to a Fullah or a Dixon or a......I don't know, but something different !!0 -
Didn't even realise Luke Berry was on the bench. The guy shouldn't be near the first team. Praying this NJ obsession ends. Imagine he gives him another year?1
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At this level you will get punished and that has happened far too often over the last 7 games and Wednesday night was a prime example of that with both goals which were preventable and needless.0
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What? Their first goal was a brilliant strike after we faced up and forced them into the long shot from a promising attack. You can't do much more than that as a defence, the shot just went in. By your logic we should just never concede a goal evershirty5 said:At this level you will get punished and that has happened far too often over the last 7 games and Wednesday night was a prime example of that with both goals which were preventable and needless.3 -
As Jones keeps saying on a regular basis we concede too many goals from outside the box. We get too deep into the penalty box and are not quick enough to close down the strike. Wednesday was another example of that. They are not learningLeuth said:
What? Their first goal was a brilliant strike after we faced up and forced them into the long shot from a promising attack. You can't do much more than that as a defence, the shot just went in. By your logic we should just never concede a goal evershirty5 said:At this level you will get punished and that has happened far too often over the last 7 games and Wednesday night was a prime example of that with both goals which were preventable and needless.6 -
He's been saying it for absolutely ages and it's nearly always Docherty. You'd expect the captain to take that in.shirty5 said:
As Jones keeps saying on a regular basis we concede too many goals from outside the box. We get too deep into the penalty box and are not quick enough to close down the strike. Wednesday was another example of that. They are not learningLeuth said:
What? Their first goal was a brilliant strike after we faced up and forced them into the long shot from a promising attack. You can't do much more than that as a defence, the shot just went in. By your logic we should just never concede a goal evershirty5 said:At this level you will get punished and that has happened far too often over the last 7 games and Wednesday night was a prime example of that with both goals which were preventable and needless.1 -
I’d like to see that goal again but at the time I thought JRC should have got a challenge in further up the pitch prior to that.0
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Leuth said:
What? Their first goal was a brilliant strike after we faced up and forced them into the long shot from a promising attack. You can't do much more than that as a defence, the shot just went in. By your logic we should just never concede a goal evershirty5 said:At this level you will get punished and that has happened far too often over the last 7 games and Wednesday night was a prime example of that with both goals which were preventable and needless.
It was an excellent strike but Furlong was afforded too much space for the first 36 minutes culminating in that strike/goal. He kept coming up the pitch unopposed. It was clear there was danger there (I didn't expect a strike kike that but a cross/pass assist was definitely a danger). We reacted after the goal had been scored.
It was the same second half v Wednesday with them completely overloading our right side and Collins facing 2-3 players on his own regularly. We just let it happen until they scored. Then we reacted to it.
If a pleb like me can see it, I'm not sure why NJ didn't on both occasions.4 -
The issue was that there was an overlapping winger that distracted Docherty for a crucial second. Maybe he should have just been straight at Furlong. But the percentages were in our favour0
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Scored our equaliser up at Hull, maybe a repeat Saturday would be acceptable...🤔Chunes said:Didn't even realise Luke Berry was on the bench. The guy shouldn't be near the first team. Praying this NJ obsession ends. Imagine he gives him another year?0 -
NJ absolutely did/does see it and has mentioned it as something we need to solve. What he has done about it or intends to do it about it remains unclear I must say but he's definitely aware of it.Athletico Charlton said:Leuth said:
What? Their first goal was a brilliant strike after we faced up and forced them into the long shot from a promising attack. You can't do much more than that as a defence, the shot just went in. By your logic we should just never concede a goal evershirty5 said:At this level you will get punished and that has happened far too often over the last 7 games and Wednesday night was a prime example of that with both goals which were preventable and needless.
It was an excellent strike but Furlong was afforded too much space for the first 36 minutes culminating in that strike/goal. He kept coming up the pitch unopposed. It was clear there was danger there (I didn't expect a strike kike that but a cross/pass assist was definitely a danger). We reacted after the goal had been scored.
It was the same second half v Wednesday with them completely overloading our right side and Collins facing 2-3 players on his own regularly. We just let it happen until they scored. Then we reacted to it.
If a pleb like me can see it, I'm not sure why NJ didn't on both occasions.0 -
And of course, prior to that game, Furlong was the only outfield Ipswich player to have not scored this season...3
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Only saw the Sky highlights but the pen did not look like a real foul to me.charltonbob said:
Thought I was the only one, looked like he just threw himself to the floor to me. Difficult for the ref but if you're not 100% sure you shouldn't be giving itJamesSeed said:Horrible match. Ipswich are a league above us in terms of both budget and quality, admittedly, but they injured our two best attacking threats with poor challenges - and we desperately need them fit to stay up.They also had a player booked for simulation. One camera angle showed that the penalty was also simulation. Macca foolishly laid a hand on him, but not enough to anything like bring him down; but, just like Jack Clarke, it looked on the replay that he did the old ‘stiff leg’ trick. I’d have to see it again to be sure, but I think VAR would have overruled it and given him a booking.Naive of Macca though, either way.
Can’t stand Ipswich. Hope they stay down.
I don't think Oxford have anything like enough to win both their remaining matches, but with all the injuries I’m not expecting us to even pinch a draw from ours. It’s very worrying that we’ll probably have to rely on another team not winning to stay up.0 -
It’s beyond depressing on here! I logged on to read the preview to tomorrow’s game and all I have seen is unmitigated gloom, doom and despondency and there is absolutely zero sense of perspective.Athletico Charlton said:Lot of worry crept onto this board today from posters previously convinced we were staying up, and all seems to stem from one loss against Ipswich, who are second in the Championship.
What did people genuinely expect?
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There was way too much space for the fella who got the strike away. Docherty had a good game but he was two yards short of where he should have been. Which happens but not so much for us, thats what we are normally good at.0
