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  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,656
    bobmunro said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    clive said:

    Millwall Football Club can confirm that all available, unreserved season ticket seats for the 2026/27 campaign have now been sold at this point. Existing season ticket holders still have until Tuesday 5th May to renew their seat, following an extraordinary response from supporters - with a record-breaking 12,000+ season tickets already sold.

    https://www.millwallfc.co.uk/news/2026/april/30/2026-27-season-ticket-update/
    Over 12,000 sold and over 1,500 yet to renew = over 13,500 STs being made available. Say 2,000 away fans leaves less than 4,500 tickets for match by match sales, less if there are areas they can’t sell because of segregation issues. They are going to need a smaller bandwagon.
    We’re segregating the North Stand (away end) from next season so the away allocation will be much smaller and tickets will be available in that stand for home fans. 
    How on earth are you going from not selling the side/front seats of the lower tier to away fans, to suddenly putting home and away fans in the same stand?
    I know you’re going to struggle to believe this but the crowd has changed a lot down there these days. The whole place is full of families and youngsters. The fan zone is excellent. The whole match day experience is good. It’s a proper family day out these days. Blokes bring their kids and missus. There’s grandads there with 3 or 4 grandkids in tow. You always got a few families dotted about but now it seems it’s a big percentage of the crowd. 
    Didn't you also tell us that your away support never cause any trouble before the game in September?
    Yes fair enough, I got the prediction wrong there and I held my hands up at the time. Well what I actually said was I hadn’t seen any trouble at any of the away games I had been to and I hadn’t at the time. 

    But I’ve been to nearly every away game this season and there’s plenty of occasions when we share a stand with the home fans and there’s not been any trouble so I don’t think it’ll be a problem if we do it at the Den. As long as it’s done properly. 

    There will always be the potential for a bit of disorder at a local derby though and maybe I was being a bit naive prior to the game at your place. It’s the same up and down the country and all over the world. 

    I saw no issues at all at the Charlton game at The Den - fans were mixing before and after the game (helped that you tonked us of course) and it was all friendly banter. I accept that Millwall are not the club they were in the 70s/80s - still a bunch of spanners in a rusty toolbox of course.
    You are currently light years ahead of us and I think that's about ownership more than anything. You've had great owners for the last 20 years and it looks like Berylson Junior is following in his father's footsteps. We've been totally mismanaged over the same period.
    I've got a feeling that the gap will close over the next few years though - I know, it's the hope that kills.
    Let's not get too carried away here. They've had a good season but they're ultimately still a side in the same division who get smaller crowds. I also think they'll be hard pushed to replicate this season what with the 3 sides coming down all likely to be very strong. On the flip side of that, we will be looking to strengthen and improve so I don't think we'll be 30 points behind them next year.

    Things can easily change. Sheff Utd finished 40 points ahead of Derby last season, but this season Derby will finish above them. I'd say that Palace are light years ahead of us, Millwall are not.

    Important note: if Millwall get promoted, please ignore the above.

    Just the one good season? We’ve finished top half of the championship in 7 consecutive seasons now. 

    Smaller crowds? ACTUAL crowds are probably on par. (Your own attendance expert on here Airman says your 20k attendances are ‘fantasy’. His words). Looks like our season ticket sales will be much higher than yours for next season as well. Yes it helps that we’ve had a very good season but you’ve just had your best season in what… ten years? 

    And yes you will be looking to strengthen and improve this pre season. But you’ve got Nathan Jones doing your strengthening and improving so not sure there will be any actual strengthening or improving going on 😁

    also, owning our own ground and training ground is a big plus that puts us ahead of you somewhat. The 999 year long lease getting confirmed this year means developments will be pushed ahead with. Things are definitely on the up in the blue corner of south London. 

    Yes, ‘light years’ is probably stronging it a bit. But things are definitely changing in the south east London footballing landscape. Luckily for you Bromley are now in the league which will stop you lot being the smallest league club in south east London 😉😁


    Top half in 7 consecutive seasons you say? Well just two seasons ago you finished 13th, closer in points to the relegation zone than the play offs.

    Yes you had a good season, you've just had your best finish for 35 years.

    Smaller crowds? Yes that's correct. Check any site you like and you will see.

    Yes we have just had our best season for 11 years. We've basically been utter shit for at least a decade..........and yet we're in the same division as you.

    For sure owning your own ground and training ground is a massive plus. But us not owning ours isn't exactly holding us back is it? We'd only need to increase our capacity if we got promoted and consolidated in the PL. So i won't hold my breath on that one.

    So overall i think we're in agreement that the 'light years ahead' comment was a wild exaggeration. No one (except Doucher) will dispute that you're currently the better team but for as long as we're in the same division you will never be light years ahead.
    Ok, I’ll hold my hands up, got the maths a tad wrong on that one. That year we finished 13th was the season of the disastrous Joe Edwards experiment. That team should never have finished 13th. Still, 7 top half finishes out of 9 since we’ve been back up isn’t bad, for a club whose budget is usually in the bottom 5. 
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,656
    edited May 5
    In 2/3 weeks time we could be on the same points as Millwall in 26/27 in the same league

    They will be getting 18000 week in and week out in either the Prem or The Championship and we will probably be on a par, maybe better if we sign decent players and a few more season tickets get sold

    We are unfortunately light years from Palace at the moment but Millwall 😂 

    1000 page thread on spanners online about us that started during Covid if anyone wants a few days to catch up…. 🥱 
    I wouldn’t bother. It’s only a 1000 pages long because one of the admin on there had a nightmare and accidentally merged a load of other threads in with it and they can’t undo the mistake. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 19,171
    Coventry proving what success brings.


    I find it hard to believe they haven't sold out any games this season.
    Those numbers include seasons in Northampton and at St Andrews, so yes there is growth, but only really since they massively progressed in recent years
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 19,171
    Just to add on Millwall, there's a good chance if they go up, the capacity of the Den will go down, Premier league requirements for press, broadcasting positions, new floodlights, VAR etc etc, might mean there are less seats, especially in home areas. 
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 11,315
    Rothko said:
    Just to add on Millwall, there's a good chance if they go up, the capacity of the Den will go down, Premier league requirements for press, broadcasting positions, new floodlights, VAR etc etc, might mean there are less seats, especially in home areas. 

    Not just if they go up I suspect, if they fail to beat Hull over the two legs it wouldn’t surprise me if there may well be less seats in the home areas after that as well…
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,209
    I don’t care about Millwall’s attendance. However I hope we can increase the average attendance at the Valley, hopefully by playing good football with a better league position than this season.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,605
    Rothko said:
    Just to add on Millwall, there's a good chance if they go up, the capacity of the Den will go down, Premier league requirements for press, broadcasting positions, new floodlights, VAR etc etc, might mean there are less seats, especially in home areas. 
    Always used to be the case, whenever Millwall played. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,232
    Rothko said:
    Just to add on Millwall, there's a good chance if they go up, the capacity of the Den will go down, Premier league requirements for press, broadcasting positions, new floodlights, VAR etc etc, might mean there are less seats, especially in home areas. 
    I'm sure the 150m they earn will go some way towards compensating them for a few lost seats.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 8,759
    In 2/3 weeks time we could be on the same points as Millwall in 26/27 in the same league

    They will be getting 18000 week in and week out in either the Prem or The Championship and we will probably be on a par, maybe better if we sign decent players and a few more season tickets get sold

    We are unfortunately light years from Palace at the moment but Millwall 😂 

    1000 page thread on spanners online about us that started during Covid if anyone wants a few days to catch up…. 🥱 
    I wouldn’t bother. It’s only a 1000 pages long because one of the admin on there had a nightmare and accidentally merged a load of other threads in with it and they can’t undo the mistake. 
    🙄😂😂😂🙄 more bollox moody ?  😂😂😂😂 hanging on my - in fact our every word-  as r all the weirdos (all 10 of them)  on your site - good luck Friday - looking forward to it 👍
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 11,315
    Rothko said:
    Just to add on Millwall, there's a good chance if they go up, the capacity of the Den will go down, Premier league requirements for press, broadcasting positions, new floodlights, VAR etc etc, might mean there are less seats, especially in home areas. 
    I guess a smaller capacity won’t be an issue now. TBF, there seemed a lot of blue seats on show last night in the home areas anyway.

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  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,398
    Have to admit it’ll now be interesting this season to see how there actual crowds look like vs reported crowds, especially if they don’t replicate last season’s form.