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Lyndon Dykes - included in Scotland World Cup squad (p17)
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Why's it sad/pathetic? If you're going to see each other every single day it's important the squad is unified. McBurnie is well known for being a bit of a wrong'un and Dykes is a good egg, he was involved in the camp for the Euros even though he was injured.Powell2ThePeople said:
From Scotland's pov, a ridiculous decision. I've read somewhere that Clarke doesn't like him as a person. If true, sad/pathetic.AberystwythAddick said:How he got the call up over McBurnie I don’t know. Good luck to him, is he the first player at the World Cup since Ghoochannejhad?
No way he should be there instead of McBurnie.
He's scored 3 goals in 20 for us this calendar year, and it's up in the air whether he'll be a Red come next season.
Why the love-in for him? Or is it more anti McBurnie? I don't understand.15 -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saipan_incident Roy Keane anyone? What dick heads can do for a World Cup squad’s morale.
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McBurnie's a bit of a loon. A drink driving charge, numerous arrests for assault and at least one charge. He's always one night out drinking away from appearing in a social media video swinging at someone and that's not always ideal for national teams that are totally reliant on unity rather than individual quality. He's also got some history with the Scotland team in general when it comes to pulling out of squads despite clearly not being injured and I don't think that's endeared him to the people who make the decisions. There are some people who view playing for your country as a privilege and Steve Clarke is that kind of old school manager who doesn't want the drama that follows players like that round; just think of all the furore around Ben White getting booed for England because he'd had a falling out with the previous coaching staff. Do you take a risk on a player like that who has just had his first good season in 3 years or do you go with the players who got you to the World Cup in the first place and not risk unsettling the squad?Powell2ThePeople said:
From Scotland's pov, a ridiculous decision. I've read somewhere that Clarke doesn't like him as a person. If true, sad/pathetic.AberystwythAddick said:How he got the call up over McBurnie I don’t know. Good luck to him, is he the first player at the World Cup since Ghoochannejhad?
No way he should be there instead of McBurnie.
He's scored 3 goals in 20 for us this calendar year, and it's up in the air whether he'll be a Red come next season.
Why the love-in for him? Or is it more anti McBurnie? I don't understand.
Lyndon Dykes had the rare situation where he had a proper choice about which country to represent given that neither are footballing powerhouses and chose Scotland, has been very committed to representing them and even gave up an 18 month contract for a 6 month one just to ensure that he played enough to be in contention to make the squad this summer. In the end Scotland are going to defend deep, boot the ball up the pitch, hope the striker can hold it up for long enough for players to get forward and pray McTominay gets a goal and they keep it tight at the back. Basically what Dykes has been doing for us since January but with the added bonus that you don't have to worry that he'll get pinched for beating someone to a pulp in Massachusetts after a match. I get it.30 -
"Charlton Athletic have offered striker Lyndon Dykes a long-term contract to extend his stay at the club.
The Scotland international joined in January on a deal until the end of the season. #CAFC face competition from Millwall and Leicester City, who have made enquiries."2 -
My dad was at the pre-tournament “victory parade”. The manager (Ally MacLeod) had promised the nation Scotland would come at least runners up in the World Cup. Spoiler alert - we didn’t even make it out of the group.CaptainRobbo said:
Possibly the first and last time an open top bus parade has been given before a ball has been kicked in anger, as 30,000 Sweaty Socks packed into Hampden to send them off to the Argentine.
The team's welcome home was a bit more subdued.
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I really hope we can do better than Dykes. A useful player if you play to his strengths, but he makes us so one dimensional.4
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Could you quote the quotes?!SELR_addicks said:"Charlton Athletic have offered striker Lyndon Dykes a long-term contract to extend his stay at the club.
The Scotland international joined in January on a deal until the end of the season. #CAFC face competition from Millwall and Leicester City, who have made enquiries."0 -
Seems like our idea of progress next season is finishing 18th.SELR_addicks said:"Charlton Athletic have offered striker Lyndon Dykes a long-term contract to extend his stay at the club.
The Scotland international joined in January on a deal until the end of the season. #CAFC face competition from Millwall and Leicester City, who have made enquiries."1 -
I’d take that in a tougher league than this seasonPeanutsMolloy said:
Seems like our idea of progress next season is finishing 18th.SELR_addicks said:"Charlton Athletic have offered striker Lyndon Dykes a long-term contract to extend his stay at the club.
The Scotland international joined in January on a deal until the end of the season. #CAFC face competition from Millwall and Leicester City, who have made enquiries."8 -
Honestly it depends on whether he'd be seen as the first choice striker (or one of the first choice partnership) or as an option to have in certain circumstances. Because if Dykes is the default option we'll probably be playing very basic direct Jonesball again and looking for survival first. But if we have him as a big lump bully to bring on to protect a lead or try and force things later on then he's not a bad option to have.ElliotCAFC said:I really hope we can do better than Dykes. A useful player if you play to his strengths, but he makes us so one dimensional.1 -
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But we showed against Ipswich and Hull that we didn’t need it . Indeed, our best spells of the season didn’t involve kicking it up to a lump. He’s not exactly Andy Hunt when it comes to holding the ball up anyway . I’d move on from him. I do think we need another striker, especially if Godden goes .thenewbie said:
Honestly it depends on whether he'd be seen as the first choice striker (or one of the first choice partnership) or as an option to have in certain circumstances. Because if Dykes is the default option we'll probably be playing very basic direct Jonesball again and looking for survival first. But if we have him as a big lump bully to bring on to protect a lead or try and force things later on then he's not a bad option to have.ElliotCAFC said:I really hope we can do better than Dykes. A useful player if you play to his strengths, but he makes us so one dimensional.3 -
You can see how well he assimilated with the squad when he came here. The dressing room is very important in a tournament like the World Cup and Dykes will clearly be better than McBurnie for that.1
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At this stage of his career, he won't be coming here to play the second fiddle; and we won't be paying his sort of wages for someone to sit on the bench. Birmingham could afford to pay him a small fortune to be a plan C from the bench, we can't.thenewbie said:
Honestly it depends on whether he'd be seen as the first choice striker (or one of the first choice partnership) or as an option to have in certain circumstances. Because if Dykes is the default option we'll probably be playing very basic direct Jonesball again and looking for survival first. But if we have him as a big lump bully to bring on to protect a lead or try and force things later on then he's not a bad option to have.ElliotCAFC said:I really hope we can do better than Dykes. A useful player if you play to his strengths, but he makes us so one dimensional.
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I don’t believe for a second that Millwall are interested.6
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Leicester want him to lead there attack in div 1The Red Robin said:I don’t believe for a second that Millwall are interested.0 -
I find it mad that we're all so negative about re-signing a player who scored some important goals for us in such a short amount of time, brought some fight in to the squad and some championship quality play of which we were missing.
Do I think we should have him as our first choice option upfront? Probably not but can players like Mbick and Leaburn learn from him and we can rely on him to bring experience to our front 2? If we're looking for a player who plays like his style then we would be stupid not to resign someone who fits the Jones model, knows the players and helped us over that line.17 -
This is where I am too. I think a battle of Dykes, Mbick, and Leaburn has some risk in it, but also has a high ceiling (namely for Miles and Micah).cafc-4-life said:I find it mad that we're all so negative about re-signing a player who scored some important goals for us in such a short amount of time, brought some fight in to the squad and some championship quality play of which we were missing.
Do I think we should have him as our first choice option upfront? Probably not but can players like Mbick and Leaburn learn from him and we can rely on him to bring experience to our front 2? If we're looking for a player who plays like his style then we would be stupid not to resign someone who fits the Jones model, knows the players and helped us over that line.
I also think we need to be realistic about how much our style of play will "evolve" next season. I hope we see more games like Hull at home (or even Wrexham at home, where all we lacked was clinical finishing) and less like, I don't know, Pompey at home. But I think we're also going to have games like Soton away or 'Boro away (Leaburn and Kelman started that day) where we need a lump up front to play long to. One who is mobile-ish, knows an NJ system, and can pop up with the odd goal (he had three goals and three assists in a team desperately lacking creativity this season), then I think that's a decent acquisition.
At the end of the day, my approach to Dykes is similar to my approach to Fevs, if there is a better player out there that we can afford, and still have the money to upgrade at Wingback and CM (where we desperately need reinforcements), then I say look at that better player. But I think for Dykes in particular, that's going to be a big ask, especially for a player with Championship experience and Dykes' nous. I still think back to what Brum fans said about him--he's not prolific but he scores big goals. And he scored/assisted some big goals for us. And I think there is a skill in that that not every striker has.5 -
Unless I see quotes in a story I question the substance.Callumcafc said:1 -
I wouldn’t say he downed tools as that is unfair. But I feel like he played within himself for the last 5/6 games to make sure he wasn’t injured for the World Cup. Which from a players perspective is understandable but it definitely cooled my interest in signing him permanently5
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I like Dykes, but we have a finite budget which is lower than most in this league. I wouldn’t spend a substantial amount of what we have to retain him. We should make him an offer commensurate with a third or fourth choice striker in our squad. If someone else offers him more then good luck to him.4
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Couldn’t have put it better myselfse9addick said:I like Dykes, but we have a finite budget which is lower than most in this league. I wouldn’t spend a substantial amount of what we have to retain him. We should make him an offer commensurate with a third or fourth choice striker in our squad. If someone else offers him more then good luck to him.0 -
Dykes stats at last two Clubscafc-4-life said:I find it mad that we're all so negative about re-signing a player who scored some important goals for us in such a short amount of time, brought some fight in to the squad and some championship quality play of which we were missing.
Do I think we should have him as our first choice option upfront? Probably not but can players like Mbick and Leaburn learn from him and we can rely on him to bring experience to our front 2? If we're looking for a player who plays like his style then we would be stupid not to resign someone who fits the Jones model, knows the players and helped us over that line.
So a total of 6 goals in 66 games for a centre forward. I am just interested in what you think Dykes does so well? I don’t think he holds the ball up particularly well or is great in the air. He is a journeyman. When Birmingham got rid of him there was not a queue of clubs vying for his services.2024–2026 Birmingham City 46 (3) 2026– Charlton Athletic 20 (3 5 -
Come on, where’s your ambition. 17th! 17th! 17th! 17th! 17th!se9addick said:
I’d take that in a tougher league than this seasonPeanutsMolloy said:
Seems like our idea of progress next season is finishing 18th.SELR_addicks said:"Charlton Athletic have offered striker Lyndon Dykes a long-term contract to extend his stay at the club.
The Scotland international joined in January on a deal until the end of the season. #CAFC face competition from Millwall and Leicester City, who have made enquiries."1 -
And half of those games were in league 1. He came in and did a job for us, but he’s an extremely limited footballer. We have to aim higher.DennisBooth said:
Dykes stats at last two Clubscafc-4-life said:I find it mad that we're all so negative about re-signing a player who scored some important goals for us in such a short amount of time, brought some fight in to the squad and some championship quality play of which we were missing.
Do I think we should have him as our first choice option upfront? Probably not but can players like Mbick and Leaburn learn from him and we can rely on him to bring experience to our front 2? If we're looking for a player who plays like his style then we would be stupid not to resign someone who fits the Jones model, knows the players and helped us over that line.
So a total of 6 goals in 66 games for a centre forward. I am just interested in what you think Dykes does so well? I don’t think he holds the ball up particularly well or is great in the air. He is a journeyman. When Birmingham got rid of him there was not a queue of clubs vying for his services.2024–2026 Birmingham City 46 (3) 2026– Charlton Athletic 20 (3 2 -
Leaburn is already 6'7" and still growing.arny23394 said:
And half of those games were in league 1. He came in and did a job for us, but he’s an extremely limited footballer. We have to aim higher.DennisBooth said:
Dykes stats at last two Clubscafc-4-life said:I find it mad that we're all so negative about re-signing a player who scored some important goals for us in such a short amount of time, brought some fight in to the squad and some championship quality play of which we were missing.
Do I think we should have him as our first choice option upfront? Probably not but can players like Mbick and Leaburn learn from him and we can rely on him to bring experience to our front 2? If we're looking for a player who plays like his style then we would be stupid not to resign someone who fits the Jones model, knows the players and helped us over that line.
So a total of 6 goals in 66 games for a centre forward. I am just interested in what you think Dykes does so well? I don’t think he holds the ball up particularly well or is great in the air. He is a journeyman. When Birmingham got rid of him there was not a queue of clubs vying for his services.2024–2026 Birmingham City 46 (3) 2026– Charlton Athletic 20 (3
You ain't gonna get much higher than that3 -
I think playing him encourages hoofball. I think we played more football against Hull when we had Kelman up top and Carey and Knibbs supporting him. If we could pick up a couple of better attacking midfielders I think that we would see Kelman score more goals.arny23394 said:
And half of those games were in league 1. He came in and did a job for us, but he’s an extremely limited footballer. We have to aim higher.DennisBooth said:
Dykes stats at last two Clubscafc-4-life said:I find it mad that we're all so negative about re-signing a player who scored some important goals for us in such a short amount of time, brought some fight in to the squad and some championship quality play of which we were missing.
Do I think we should have him as our first choice option upfront? Probably not but can players like Mbick and Leaburn learn from him and we can rely on him to bring experience to our front 2? If we're looking for a player who plays like his style then we would be stupid not to resign someone who fits the Jones model, knows the players and helped us over that line.
So a total of 6 goals in 66 games for a centre forward. I am just interested in what you think Dykes does so well? I don’t think he holds the ball up particularly well or is great in the air. He is a journeyman. When Birmingham got rid of him there was not a queue of clubs vying for his services.2024–2026 Birmingham City 46 (3) 2026– Charlton Athletic 20 (3 3 -
Not that I’m saying we can’t do better or should be looking to keep him but 6 goals in 66 is a skewed stat considering he’s played 2800 mins which is 31 (90min games). 10 G/A in that time isn’t horrendous.DennisBooth said:
Dykes stats at last two Clubscafc-4-life said:I find it mad that we're all so negative about re-signing a player who scored some important goals for us in such a short amount of time, brought some fight in to the squad and some championship quality play of which we were missing.
Do I think we should have him as our first choice option upfront? Probably not but can players like Mbick and Leaburn learn from him and we can rely on him to bring experience to our front 2? If we're looking for a player who plays like his style then we would be stupid not to resign someone who fits the Jones model, knows the players and helped us over that line.
So a total of 6 goals in 66 games for a centre forward. I am just interested in what you think Dykes does so well? I don’t think he holds the ball up particularly well or is great in the air. He is a journeyman. When Birmingham got rid of him there was not a queue of clubs vying for his services.2024–2026 Birmingham City 46 (3) 2026– Charlton Athletic 20 (3 He’s definitely limited but saying he’s not good in the air is just a straight agenda against him6 -
Dykes really dropped off towards the end of the season which is skewing a lot of opinions, including mine. I am trying to remember how good he looked when he first joined. Being an average Championship player still made him look better than most of what we had. But with the world cup coming up, his effort levels really sank once it was 'mission accomplished.'
Also, while I'm sure the football will improve next season, we are definitely still going to be playing some hoofball, with or without Dykes.3 -
That’s the key point for me. I’d like us to sign better, but we have to have a reliable target man in the squad in addition to Leaburn and/or Mbick.Chunes said:Dykes really dropped off towards the end of the season which is skewing a lot of opinions, including mine. I am trying to remember how good he looked when he first joined. Being an average Championship player still made him look better than most of what we had. But with the world cup coming up, his effort levels really sank once it was 'mission accomplished.'
Also, while I'm sure the football will improve next season, we are definitely still going to be playing some hoofball, with or without Dykes.
It’s too much of a risk that we get to the point where we need to play that way but have no one for that role. I always remember us selling Iwelumo, going with Gray and Varney which led to Iwelumo getting promoted with Wolves and us getting relegated.
A mixture of strikers including goalscorers and target men covers us when things are going well and when we need to grind out results.9
