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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,484
    Forest have now rejected a 120m bid from City for Anderson. At what point do they either walk away, or the player gets pissed off and puts in a transfer request?

    I know Marinakis is a nutjob but 120m is ridiculous.
  • Steven81
    Steven81 Posts: 1,462
    edited June 12
    Rinse those cheating scumbags for all they can get.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 12,522
    This is nuts. Nuts that they have turned it down, and nuts that City have even offered it in the first place.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,484
    Meanwhile the Glazers have refinanced their existing $425m loan...............by taking out a new $550m one.

    So just like that, United's debt has increased by another $125m.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 19,571
    Xabi Alonso is going to need a new left back. Marc Cucurella being sold to Real Madrid for €60m. Seems stupid from Chelsea, he's got more consistent recently and has been one of their better players 
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 25,441
    fenaddick said:
    Xabi Alonso is going to need a new left back. Marc Cucurella being sold to Real Madrid for €60m. Seems stupid from Chelsea, he's got more consistent recently and has been one of their better players 
    He's massively overrated. If i was Chelsea fan i'd drive him to the airport myself..
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 72,297
    fenaddick said:
    Xabi Alonso is going to need a new left back. Marc Cucurella being sold to Real Madrid for €60m. Seems stupid from Chelsea, he's got more consistent recently and has been one of their better players 
    Confirmed £47.5m rising to £51.8m.

    As Chelsea paid Brighton £63m for him 4 years ago, they actually made a loss on him.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cx2xp7gv09lo
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,832
    Not really a loss paying 3m a year for him
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 8,505
    MrOneLung said:
    Not really a loss paying 3m a year for him
    That’s over £55,000 a week. When you add whatever his wages were, I’d say they’ve made a pretty big loss.
    I guess when you weigh that against all the trophies they’ve won in that time though…. Oh, wait, they’ve only won the conference league a couple of years ago and that plastic thing in America last year. They are very proud of that though. 🙄

    How much would they have to lose on the sale for you to consider it ‘really a loss’?


  • They need to sell players apparently 

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  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,761
    That's one relegation spot sorted.
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 11,532
    It was anyway
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,226
    JohnBoyUK said:
    follett said:
    Surprised that Palace still haven't announced / found a new Manager after Glasner announced his own departure.
    Maybe Iraola going to Liverpool has scuppered things for them
    But having a neutral view point, they surely need to get a move on and find someone?
    Sounds like they’ve basically done everything but announce Pierre Sage as their new manager
    My french mate Dids (he's actually a Fulham ST holder) is so pissed off right now.  Lens is his childhood French team and Sage is likely off, and Marco Silva's gone walkies too.

    He really appreciated my message when I sent him this tweet.

    Anyway, he really rates Sage and has been banging on about him for what seems like forever.
    Well, I agree with him. I hate to say it but I think this will prove a great appointment for them, and they’ll be pushing for top six next season.

    Apart from De Boer, (sadly)they have always appointed managers that have been a very good fit for them :'(
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,353
    Interesting to see Daniel Levy was messaging Simon Jordan during his Talksport show to say Spurs have had their pants pulled down over paying £52m for Van Hecke.

    He still doesn't see it, does he?

    Yeah, we've probably overpaid a little bit and by waiting for August we could have probably got £10-15m knocked off but what price do you put on getting the manager who he wants in time for pre-season?

    I've banged on about it for years.  Levy used to spend so much time dicking around to save a few quid by waiting until the last knockings of the transfer window or by always going for the poundshop equivalent of the player that the manager actually asked for.

    Still early days but 3 very good signings by Spurs with Robertson, Senesi and Van Hecke coming in.
    Ideally want to see a proper left winger come in now with another proper centre forward.
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,353
    JohnBoyUK said:
    follett said:
    Surprised that Palace still haven't announced / found a new Manager after Glasner announced his own departure.
    Maybe Iraola going to Liverpool has scuppered things for them
    But having a neutral view point, they surely need to get a move on and find someone?
    Sounds like they’ve basically done everything but announce Pierre Sage as their new manager
    My french mate Dids (he's actually a Fulham ST holder) is so pissed off right now.  Lens is his childhood French team and Sage is likely off, and Marco Silva's gone walkies too.

    He really appreciated my message when I sent him this tweet.

    Anyway, he really rates Sage and has been banging on about him for what seems like forever.
    Well, I agree with him. I hate to say it but I think this will prove a great appointment for them, and they’ll be pushing for top six next season.

    Apart from De Boer, (sadly)they have always appointed managers that have been a very good fit for them :'(
    Didn't Vieira have a spell there?  Or did I imagine that?
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,484
    fenaddick said:
    Xabi Alonso is going to need a new left back. Marc Cucurella being sold to Real Madrid for €60m. Seems stupid from Chelsea, he's got more consistent recently and has been one of their better players 
    Chelsea are absolutely screwed financially. Already been sanctioned once by UEFA and if they fail again they will be banned from Europe for a year (when they next qualify).
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,484
    edited June 18
    fenaddick said:
    Xabi Alonso is going to need a new left back. Marc Cucurella being sold to Real Madrid for €60m. Seems stupid from Chelsea, he's got more consistent recently and has been one of their better players 
    Confirmed £47.5m rising to £51.8m.

    As Chelsea paid Brighton £63m for him 4 years ago, they actually made a loss on him.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cx2xp7gv09lo
    In terms of his book value they made a profit (which is what counts for FFP).

    He cost just over 60m and was 4 years into a 6 year contract, so roughly 10m a year on their books. Therefore as 40m of value had gone, there is technically 20m 'profit' left by selling him now. 

    Depending on who you listen to they need to make around 150m of profit on their books to avoid new sanctions.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 72,297
    fenaddick said:
    Xabi Alonso is going to need a new left back. Marc Cucurella being sold to Real Madrid for €60m. Seems stupid from Chelsea, he's got more consistent recently and has been one of their better players 
    Confirmed £47.5m rising to £51.8m.

    As Chelsea paid Brighton £63m for him 4 years ago, they actually made a loss on him.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cx2xp7gv09lo
    In terms of his book value they made a profit (which is what counts for FFP).

    He cost just over 60m and was 4 years into a 6 year contract, so roughly 10m a year on their books. Therefore as 40m of value had gone, there is technically 20m 'profit' left by selling him now. 

    Depending on who you listen to they need to make around 150m of profit on their books to avoid new sanctions.
    True, though an effect of the ridiculously long contracts they've given out is that the values of the likes of Caicedo and Fernandez won't have dropped much from their original fees. And neither I imagine have risen in value either.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,484
    Liverpool have had a €100m bid rejected for Yan Diomande (19 year old Ivory Coast winger).

    Not sure who's more crazy. Liverpool for offering that much or Leipzig for rejecting it.
  • clive
    clive Posts: 20,462

    Full list of Premier League opening-weekend fixtures

    All times BST

    Friday, 21 August

    Arsenal v Coventry (20:00)

    Saturday, 22 August

    Hull City v Manchester United (12:30)

    Everton v Crystal Palace (15:00)

    Ipswich v Sunderland (15:00)

    Nottingham Forest v Leeds (15:00)

    Brentford v Tottenham (17:30)

    Sunday, 23 August

    Brighton v Aston Villa (14:00)

    Manchester City v Bournemouth (14:00)

    Newcastle v Liverpool (16:30)

    Monday, 24 August

    Fulham v Chelsea (20:00)

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cdx7kyv92rjo


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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,484
    Coventry's first two away games are Arsenal and Man City. Welcome to the big league.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,548
    Couple of rest weekends for Coventry's first team then, get them out the way early rather than in the run in.
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,234
    Coventry's first two away games are Arsenal and Man City. Welcome to the big league.
    Possibly a better time to play the big boys, before they get into their stride.
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,353
    £130m fee agreed between City and Forest for Eliott Anderson.
    What the actual f*ck?  Thats ridiculous.
  • Stefco
    Stefco Posts: 871
    edited June 25
    JohnBoyUK said:
    £130m fee agreed between City and Forest for Eliott Anderson.
    What the actual f*ck?  Thats ridiculous.
    I dunno, what with inflation, and all.
    Yes, the price is ridiculous, but I look at it this way.

    Declan Rice sold for £105million (the £5million being add-ons) in 2023. He was roughly the same age that Anderson is now. 
    They are in a similar career trajectory, & where Rice has improved since he moved, & has contributed significantly to Arsenholes success, so Anderson has the potential to do very similarly. (Or, alternatively, could end up a Calvin Phillips)

    I reckon Man City feel now, that they should have pushed the boat out on Rice (of course, they still had success without him, but as a long term signing) Hence why they aren't messing around.

    £130 could be seen as a snip, in years to come. (Of course, the very notion of that amount ever being "a snip", is ridiculous, & any in the 9 figure bracket - are rather preposterous in general.)
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 23,478
    I mean Real Madrid got told this week that €259m isn't enough to sign Olise, so based on that Anderson is a cheap punt
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,484
    JohnBoyUK said:
    £130m fee agreed between City and Forest for Eliott Anderson.
    What the actual f*ck?  Thats ridiculous.
    Ornstein and Fabrizio both saying it's a fixed price £116m?

    Obviously a crazy amount of money but Caicedo went for 115m three years ago, so in comparison to that it's not a price that's out of this world.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 19,571
    JohnBoyUK said:
    £130m fee agreed between City and Forest for Eliott Anderson.
    What the actual f*ck?  Thats ridiculous.
    Ornstein and Fabrizio both saying it's a fixed price £116m?

    Obviously a crazy amount of money but Caicedo went for 115m three years ago, so in comparison to that it's not a price that's out of this world.
    Works out as roughly €130m where the £130m figure came from 
  • I am long past caring about transfer fees at the top table, but £130 million for a decent PL midfielder is absolutely nuts. 

    I cannot get my head around the idea, that for one Elliott Anderson. You could effectively buy Charlton, purchase The Valley w/ Sparrows Lane and then have a transfer pot which could arguably get you to the top end of the division.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,903
    JohnBoyUK said:
    JohnBoyUK said:
    follett said:
    Surprised that Palace still haven't announced / found a new Manager after Glasner announced his own departure.
    Maybe Iraola going to Liverpool has scuppered things for them
    But having a neutral view point, they surely need to get a move on and find someone?
    Sounds like they’ve basically done everything but announce Pierre Sage as their new manager
    My french mate Dids (he's actually a Fulham ST holder) is so pissed off right now.  Lens is his childhood French team and Sage is likely off, and Marco Silva's gone walkies too.

    He really appreciated my message when I sent him this tweet.

    Anyway, he really rates Sage and has been banging on about him for what seems like forever.
    Well, I agree with him. I hate to say it but I think this will prove a great appointment for them, and they’ll be pushing for top six next season.

    Apart from De Boer, (sadly)they have always appointed managers that have been a very good fit for them :'(
    Didn't Vieira have a spell there?  Or did I imagine that?
    Yeah what they've been good at in the PL years is correcting mistakes quickly and not making two bad appointments in a row.

    Holloway, De Boer etc quickly replaced with Hodgson and Pulis, Hodgson moved on when he was past it for Glasner etc.