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  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,960
    I would like to think Apter in particular will be given a chance in pre-season to prove himself, he won player of the month in his first month in the Championship playing out of position - he’s clearly got something about him.

    Tanto is a strange one because he’s got all the pace and physicality for this league but his touch and finishing are not at the level needed.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 10,031
    I would like to think Apter in particular will be given a chance in pre-season to prove himself, he won player of the month in his first month in the Championship playing out of position - he’s clearly got something about him.

    Tanto is a strange one because he’s got all the pace and physicality for this league but his touch and finishing are not at the level needed.
    Absolutely agree with this. Would give Apter preseason , maybe even get a look at him in the 3421 as a second no10 with his best mate Sonny. 

    Olaofe has all the physical attributes Nathan loves in a striker but his technique lets him down. I get the idea of thinking you can teach the rest but he's just way too raw. Will be one we'll have to take a significant haircut on. Right profile wrong player ultimately. 
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 5,189
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    The only real doubt with Edwards would be if we lose TC. Would Edwards be enough attacking threat on the left hand side? 
    Do you think Campbell is being sold?
    I think TC and Ramsay will maybe wait and see what we do this summer to see if we match their ambitions. I think it’s pretty likely both are sold though because they will both have plenty of interest from championship clubs that will probably pay them more than we will 
    TC needs to prove himself first half of the season before we should even start to think about a new deal …
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,574
    I would like to think Apter in particular will be given a chance in pre-season to prove himself, he won player of the month in his first month in the Championship playing out of position - he’s clearly got something about him.

    Tanto is a strange one because he’s got all the pace and physicality for this league but his touch and finishing are not at the level needed.
    In hindsight quite a lot of the signings last summer were gambles - could Carey bring his goal scoring to the Championship? (Yes), would we be able to take the physicality of Olaofe and hone the technical side (no), would Kelman be able to retain his cutting edge (kind of, eventually), would Apter be able to get the discipline and fitness to switch to wingback (no.)
    Its all sliding doors honestly, there's probably another universe where Carey is anonymous but Olaofe scores 10 goals assisted by Apter or something.
    This year I think we're definitely needing to go for players who can and have proven themselves at this level rather than gambling again but I think even the ones that failed last season were signed for good reasons but just didn't quite work out.
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 5,189
    MarcusH26 said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    The only real doubt with Edwards would be if we lose TC. Would Edwards be enough attacking threat on the left hand side? 
    Do you think Campbell is being sold?
    I think TC and Ramsay will maybe wait and see what we do this summer to see if we match their ambitions. I think it’s pretty likely both are sold though because they will both have plenty of interest from championship clubs that will probably pay them more than we will 
    Think there's more chance of keeping Ramsay than TC. Although I guess it depends on who we sign at RWB and how Sichenje develops now once he has a preseason with us. 

    TC I can see us not being short of interest in , enough sides at this level that play with out and out width. Sheffield United to replace Andre Brooks and Stoke if Thomas goes would be 2 of the sides I would assume would target TC. 
    TC to replace Thomas ……. did you watch both of them play last season they are worlds apart … 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,724
    Apter had a decent first month but I think he was massively overrated by our fanbase in general. He’s clearly got talent but if he doesn’t have the rest then he won’t make it in the championship 

    I heard from a Blackpool fan that Jones had picked Apter out as a poor trainer pretty much as soon as he joined us. Bollocked him early on with something along the lines of we’ve paid 2 million for you so we expect you to put a shift in here

    Maybe last season and his failed loan will have humbled Apter and he might come back a changed man this summer. However, I don’t feel like Jones is someone that is easy to win back trust from once you’ve lost it so I’d expect he will go back to league 1 on loan. Hopefully he does better than he did at Bolton, and then we might recoup some of our fee next summer 
  • AberystwythAddick
    AberystwythAddick Posts: 1,610
    MarcusH26 said:
    I would like to think Apter in particular will be given a chance in pre-season to prove himself, he won player of the month in his first month in the Championship playing out of position - he’s clearly got something about him.

    Tanto is a strange one because he’s got all the pace and physicality for this league but his touch and finishing are not at the level needed.
    Absolutely agree with this. Would give Apter preseason , maybe even get a look at him in the 3421 as a second no10 with his best mate Sonny. 

    Olaofe has all the physical attributes Nathan loves in a striker but his technique lets him down. I get the idea of thinking you can teach the rest but he's just way too raw. Will be one we'll have to take a significant haircut on. Right profile wrong player ultimately. 
    Nathan Jones won’t be altering how he plays football to accommodate Rob Apter. 

  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,724
    MarcusH26 said:
    I would like to think Apter in particular will be given a chance in pre-season to prove himself, he won player of the month in his first month in the Championship playing out of position - he’s clearly got something about him.

    Tanto is a strange one because he’s got all the pace and physicality for this league but his touch and finishing are not at the level needed.
    Absolutely agree with this. Would give Apter preseason , maybe even get a look at him in the 3421 as a second no10 with his best mate Sonny. 

    Olaofe has all the physical attributes Nathan loves in a striker but his technique lets him down. I get the idea of thinking you can teach the rest but he's just way too raw. Will be one we'll have to take a significant haircut on. Right profile wrong player ultimately. 
    Nathan Jones won’t be altering how he plays football to accommodate Rob Apter. 

    And he definitely shouldn’t. Loads of our fans last season were saying we should change to 4-2-3-1 to get Apter back in the team. Thankfully Jones didn’t and we stayed up, while Apter couldn’t hold down a spot in a league one 4-2-3-1 showing just how badly that would have gone for us 
  • jose
    jose Posts: 1,460
    I do like the responses to this tweet from last season

    https://x.com/dundeefc/status/2007526960096763936?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0g
    What is the response?
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,574
    jose said:
    I do like the responses to this tweet from last season

    https://x.com/dundeefc/status/2007526960096763936?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0g
    What is the response?


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  • jose
    jose Posts: 1,460
    Out of Apter, Ahadme and Tanto I think the only one who has even the faintest chance of rehabilitating his football career at Charlton is Tanto.
    Ahadme tries to make a difference but isn’t good enough, Apter might be good enough but hardly tries to make a difference.
    The idea that Ahadme stays but Kanu goes, or Apter stays but Anderson goes does not sit well with me.
    We are not talking of Asimwe much, I wonder what the future holds for him, good lad that he is.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 10,031
    MarcusH26 said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    The only real doubt with Edwards would be if we lose TC. Would Edwards be enough attacking threat on the left hand side? 
    Do you think Campbell is being sold?
    I think TC and Ramsay will maybe wait and see what we do this summer to see if we match their ambitions. I think it’s pretty likely both are sold though because they will both have plenty of interest from championship clubs that will probably pay them more than we will 
    Think there's more chance of keeping Ramsay than TC. Although I guess it depends on who we sign at RWB and how Sichenje develops now once he has a preseason with us. 

    TC I can see us not being short of interest in , enough sides at this level that play with out and out width. Sheffield United to replace Andre Brooks and Stoke if Thomas goes would be 2 of the sides I would assume would target TC. 
    TC to replace Thomas ……. did you watch both of them play last season they are worlds apart … 
    Thomas's stats at this level before this season were incredibly similar to TCs last season actually. 3-4 goals a season type numbers and a 5 year age gap to TC. 

    No reason why with the right management whether that's with us or elsewhere if he so decides why TC can't be an 8-10 goal winger at this level. 
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    kodfish Posts: 654
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  • Bostonaddick
    Bostonaddick Posts: 1,018
    MarcusH26 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    The only real doubt with Edwards would be if we lose TC. Would Edwards be enough attacking threat on the left hand side? 
    Do you think Campbell is being sold?
    I think TC and Ramsay will maybe wait and see what we do this summer to see if we match their ambitions. I think it’s pretty likely both are sold though because they will both have plenty of interest from championship clubs that will probably pay them more than we will 
    Think there's more chance of keeping Ramsay than TC. Although I guess it depends on who we sign at RWB and how Sichenje develops now once he has a preseason with us. 

    TC I can see us not being short of interest in , enough sides at this level that play with out and out width. Sheffield United to replace Andre Brooks and Stoke if Thomas goes would be 2 of the sides I would assume would target TC. 
    TC to replace Thomas ……. did you watch both of them play last season they are worlds apart … 
    Thomas's stats at this level before this season were incredibly similar to TCs last season actually. 3-4 goals a season type numbers and a 5 year age gap to TC. 

    No reason why with the right management whether that's with us or elsewhere if he so decides why TC can't be an 8-10 goal winger at this level. 
    Thomas averaged 10 assists a season over 3 previous seasons in the championship.  His goals were lower as he was playing as a traditional winger rather than a wide forward like this year.  He was widely considered one of the best wingers in the championship - his numbers were absolutely nothing like TCs.  I think TC has potential but the comparison is not on point
  • Cafc451
    Cafc451 Posts: 52
    Will we sign anyone before Dartford fc on friday?.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 86,452
    Cafc451 said:
    Will we sign anyone before Dartford fc on friday?.
    What do you think?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 72,325
    MarcusH26 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Was mentioned to me earlier looks like one is incoming but couldn’t get a name so didn't post about it. Now looks like that player is Big Billy Koumetio. 

    As for outgoings - club want to offload everyone who went out on loan on perm deals minus Mbick who the current plan is to loan out again. 


    Would be surprised if they found a taker for Olaofe. Think that's going to be the difficult one to shift along with Ahadme.
    A lot of League 1 clubs were in for Tanto in Jan. Naturally he went back to Stockport . Strangely the loan didn’t go to plan. 

    However, many L1 clubs will still be interested. A bad 6 months/wrong move is easily forgivable in football.
    I'm just wondering what kind of fee we'd ultimately recoup, was it £1m+ add-on's we originally paid? I don't know how many League 1 clubs would give us £500k for Tanto and hope they can get him firing. 
    Also Apter and Tanto would have been offered low Championship wages by us, so will struggle to get the same money in L1, especially after unsuccessful loan spells last season.

    I think we will struggle to move both on permanently unless they are prepared to take a pay cut.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 100,172
    Cafc451 said:
    Will we sign anyone before Dartford fc on friday?.
    What do you think?

  • DennisBooth
    DennisBooth Posts: 198
    Cafc451 said:
    Will we sign anyone before Dartford fc on friday?.
    Yes we will, within two minutes of signing the player someone will moan about him.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 10,031
    MarcusH26 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Was mentioned to me earlier looks like one is incoming but couldn’t get a name so didn't post about it. Now looks like that player is Big Billy Koumetio. 

    As for outgoings - club want to offload everyone who went out on loan on perm deals minus Mbick who the current plan is to loan out again. 


    Would be surprised if they found a taker for Olaofe. Think that's going to be the difficult one to shift along with Ahadme.
    A lot of League 1 clubs were in for Tanto in Jan. Naturally he went back to Stockport . Strangely the loan didn’t go to plan. 

    However, many L1 clubs will still be interested. A bad 6 months/wrong move is easily forgivable in football.
    I'm just wondering what kind of fee we'd ultimately recoup, was it £1m+ add-on's we originally paid? I don't know how many League 1 clubs would give us £500k for Tanto and hope they can get him firing. 
    Also Apter and Tanto would have been offered low Championship wages by us, so will struggle to get the same money in L1, especially after unsuccessful loan spells last season.

    I think we will struggle to move both on permanently unless they are prepared to take a pay cut.
    Yeah I think we might be looking at our typical deadline day situation with a few of these being shifted last minute to whoever will take them whilst we pay basically all of their wages. 

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  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 45,142
    MarcusH26 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    The only real doubt with Edwards would be if we lose TC. Would Edwards be enough attacking threat on the left hand side? 
    Do you think Campbell is being sold?
    I think TC and Ramsay will maybe wait and see what we do this summer to see if we match their ambitions. I think it’s pretty likely both are sold though because they will both have plenty of interest from championship clubs that will probably pay them more than we will 
    Think there's more chance of keeping Ramsay than TC. Although I guess it depends on who we sign at RWB and how Sichenje develops now once he has a preseason with us. 

    TC I can see us not being short of interest in , enough sides at this level that play with out and out width. Sheffield United to replace Andre Brooks and Stoke if Thomas goes would be 2 of the sides I would assume would target TC. 
    TC to replace Thomas ……. did you watch both of them play last season they are worlds apart … 
    Thomas's stats at this level before this season were incredibly similar to TCs last season actually. 3-4 goals a season type numbers and a 5 year age gap to TC. 

    No reason why with the right management whether that's with us or elsewhere if he so decides why TC can't be an 8-10 goal winger at this level. 
    Thomas averaged 10 assists a season over 3 previous seasons in the championship.  His goals were lower as he was playing as a traditional winger rather than a wide forward like this year.  He was widely considered one of the best wingers in the championship - his numbers were absolutely nothing like TCs.  I think TC has potential but the comparison is not on point
    Perhaps Thomas has more clinical strikers to create chances for, compared to TC at Charlton?

     TC created plenty of chances last season, but few were converted.

    He'll only be credited with an assist if the striker actually scores.

    "Assists" ....the most misleading statistic in football. 

    Better perhaps to count goalscoring chances created?


  • mart77 said:
    Daily Record is saying we’re signing Koumetio. 
    Can’t wait to see the various spelling attempts of Kuomteio 😂

    fenaddick said:
    The question with a player like Tanto is is it worth loaning him out in the hope he has a great season and improves his value? I can't see his value dropping much unless he has a truly torrid time so it might be worth the risk
    Criminal that we spent a few quid on two players who were f***** off after 5 months.
    I do not like criticising Jones but this was not good.
    Our low budget approach was very successful last year - we stayed up that was the target.  I feel people get carried away with our situation of not having any money to spend in previous season (because of cowboy 🤠 owners) and then suddenly every player we sign has
    to be great in their first season…

    Name me a club who got promoted and every player purchased was a success??? (you’ll find the answer is none)

    considering our strategy was buy a mix of experienced at champo level and best performing league one players with potential of might be able to step up to a better league - we have done really well.  

    HITS (still need development, apart from Bell who will have limited game time due to age and fitness)
    Carey 
    Bell 
    Kelman
    Sichenje
    Kaminski
    knibbs (? Injury plagued season) 
    Clarke 

    OK (but either injury prone or need upgrading)
    Burke
    Costello
    Dykes
    Chambers
    Coady (too expensive)

    Miss
    Apter
    Olafae

    So suddenly 7 good players looks good imo 
  • mart77 said:
    Daily Record is saying we’re signing Koumetio. 
    Can’t wait to see the various spelling attempts of Kuomteio 😂
    “Billy the kid”
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,716
    https://youtu.be/rDDqTwESME0?is=sVNwmMScz5yR-ycN

    Most YouTube clips make players look like worldbeaters. Not sure about this one. Looks a bit agricultural to me. I’m sure he’s got more about him 🤞
    Agree, looks far from being championship standard, FROM THOSE CLIPS
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 26,901
    Cafc451 said:
    Will we sign anyone before Dartford fc on friday?.
    What do you think?

    Best check in with Ronnie first mate...
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 5,189
    Cafc451 said:
    Will we sign anyone before Dartford fc on friday?.
    Yes
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 26,901
    Spooky!!
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 5,189
    Oggy Red said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    The only real doubt with Edwards would be if we lose TC. Would Edwards be enough attacking threat on the left hand side? 
    Do you think Campbell is being sold?
    I think TC and Ramsay will maybe wait and see what we do this summer to see if we match their ambitions. I think it’s pretty likely both are sold though because they will both have plenty of interest from championship clubs that will probably pay them more than we will 
    Think there's more chance of keeping Ramsay than TC. Although I guess it depends on who we sign at RWB and how Sichenje develops now once he has a preseason with us. 

    TC I can see us not being short of interest in , enough sides at this level that play with out and out width. Sheffield United to replace Andre Brooks and Stoke if Thomas goes would be 2 of the sides I would assume would target TC. 
    TC to replace Thomas ……. did you watch both of them play last season they are worlds apart … 
    Thomas's stats at this level before this season were incredibly similar to TCs last season actually. 3-4 goals a season type numbers and a 5 year age gap to TC. 

    No reason why with the right management whether that's with us or elsewhere if he so decides why TC can't be an 8-10 goal winger at this level. 
    Thomas averaged 10 assists a season over 3 previous seasons in the championship.  His goals were lower as he was playing as a traditional winger rather than a wide forward like this year.  He was widely considered one of the best wingers in the championship - his numbers were absolutely nothing like TCs.  I think TC has potential but the comparison is not on point
    Perhaps Thomas has more clinical strikers to create chances for, compared to TC at Charlton?

     TC created plenty of chances last season, but few were converted.

    He'll only be credited with an assist if the striker actually scores.

    "Assists" ....the most misleading statistic in football. 

    Better perhaps to count goalscoring chances created?


    Get your point but watching the games you can’t say our strikers missed 3/4 chances a match they only had 1 or 2 chances a match if they were lucky and TC only having 3 assists all season is a major part of that .. we need better 
  • jose
    jose Posts: 1,460
    The showreel for the latest rumoured player is one of the worst I have ever seen.
    But reasons I suppose.
    It basically looks like a constant series of won headers, Lloyd Jones style if you like.
    I hope there is other impressive stuff we haven’t been exposed to yet.

  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 19,631
    jose said:
    The showreel for the latest rumoured player is one of the worst I have ever seen.
    But reasons I suppose.
    It basically looks like a constant series of won headers, Lloyd Jones style if you like.
    I hope there is other impressive stuff we haven’t been exposed to yet.

    “That showreel is awful, it makes him look like one of our best players”