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Ivan Mesik Signs on a Four Year Deal

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  • MickeyBennett
    MickeyBennett Posts: 793
    Cafc451 said:
    Not a child.

  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,984
    No chance it’s 100k, they signed him for 300k he’s had two good seasons and highly rated and still had two years left on his contract. Be shocked if it was under 500k, probably closer to a million.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,006
    Covered_End_Lad said:
    No chance it’s 100k, they signed him for 300k he’s had two good seasons and highly rated and still had two years left on his contract. Be shocked if it was under 500k, probably closer to a million.
    I know you are only trying to answer a question but I just don’t get all this guessing? Who cares? Why does it matter? Maybe he had a relegation clause at a set figure, maybe it was 1m. Unless it’s mentioned by either Club then we’ll never know.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,997
    Almeriaddick said:
    Cafc451 said:
    Not a child.
    A wum or simple ?
    Why assume those are mutually exclusive options?
  • Gisappointed
    Gisappointed Posts: 1,281
    If we buy Koumetio, almost certainly we will be playing 4 at the back. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 66,698
    Gisappointed said:
    If we buy Koumetio, almost certainly we will be playing 4 at the back. 
    And why is that?
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,711
    Looks solid.  I quite like a bit of physicality as well, something we were lacking last season. 

    I would assume if Edwards is and stays fit, he’s first choice LWB, with Mesik as the back up option, and Bell as back up Mesik if we get an injury crisis 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 86,576
    Mesik can also "cover" the right side according to the signing article but I still think we need more signings on that side.

    Gavin Carter said 8 - 8 - 8 was now 9 -9 - 9 so that is a squad of 27.

    9 will be, if the same formula is used, academy products.

    If we move on, as rumoured, Macca, Karoy, DK and loan out or sell Ahadme, Apter and Tanto (all "ifs" at present, at least till 10.00am) there are still at lot of players to be brought in. 
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 6,018
    Like the sound of him. 

    Hoping he's seen more as the LCB (and think he will be ahead of Bell sooner than later personally) than the LB/LWB, although looking on the ever reliable transfer rumours he did play more games at LB than CB, interestingly, only played the one league game at LWB last season.

    The important thing though, played 90+ minutes in all but 4 league games.
  • DennisBooth
    DennisBooth Posts: 226
    Almeriaddick said:
    Cafc451 said:
    Not a child.
    A wum or simple ?
    Is there any need for this? 

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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,804
    CL_Phantom said:
    Like the sound of him. 

    Hoping he's seen more as the LCB (and think he will be ahead of Bell sooner than later personally) than the LB/LWB, although looking on the ever reliable transfer rumours he did play more games at LB than CB, interestingly, only played the one league game at LWB last season.

    The important thing though, played 90+ minutes in all but 4 league games.
    Appreciate the optimism but without knowing anything about him or having seen him play, I think it's quite mad to think he will be ahead of one of our best players soon

    If the Koumetio rumours are true and we are signing him too, then I'd assume Mesik will actually be competition for Edwards more than Bell
  • ButtleJR
    ButtleJR Posts: 1,652
    NabySarr said:
    CL_Phantom said:
    Like the sound of him. 

    Hoping he's seen more as the LCB (and think he will be ahead of Bell sooner than later personally) than the LB/LWB, although looking on the ever reliable transfer rumours he did play more games at LB than CB, interestingly, only played the one league game at LWB last season.

    The important thing though, played 90+ minutes in all but 4 league games.
    Appreciate the optimism but without knowing anything about him or having seen him play, I think it's quite mad to think he will be ahead of one of our best players soon

    If the Koumetio rumours are true and we are signing him too, then I'd assume Mesik will actually be competition for Edwards more than Bell
    Yeah whenever Bell played Lwb he seemed to get injured so puts less pressure on him if Edwards breaks down. 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,618
    NabySarr said:
    CL_Phantom said:
    Like the sound of him. 

    Hoping he's seen more as the LCB (and think he will be ahead of Bell sooner than later personally) than the LB/LWB, although looking on the ever reliable transfer rumours he did play more games at LB than CB, interestingly, only played the one league game at LWB last season.

    The important thing though, played 90+ minutes in all but 4 league games.
    Appreciate the optimism but without knowing anything about him or having seen him play, I think it's quite mad to think he will be ahead of one of our best players soon

    If the Koumetio rumours are true and we are signing him too, then I'd assume Mesik will actually be competition for Edwards more than Bell
    Based on their respective injury/fitness records I think Mesik probably will actually be ahead of Bell before long even if its just by default, quality not withstanding. 
    Though I do agree that Koumetio (if signed) would be the LCB option and Mesik envisioned as the wider option, with the ability to come inside if needed.
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 6,018
    NabySarr said:
    CL_Phantom said:
    Like the sound of him. 

    Hoping he's seen more as the LCB (and think he will be ahead of Bell sooner than later personally) than the LB/LWB, although looking on the ever reliable transfer rumours he did play more games at LB than CB, interestingly, only played the one league game at LWB last season.

    The important thing though, played 90+ minutes in all but 4 league games.
    Appreciate the optimism but without knowing anything about him or having seen him play, I think it's quite mad to think he will be ahead of one of our best players soon

    If the Koumetio rumours are true and we are signing him too, then I'd assume Mesik will actually be competition for Edwards more than Bell

    Purely because Bell's 32, in the last year of his contract and injury prone, see Ivan as the long term replacement and think Jones may use him more there than we think, as well as LB first reserve. 

    Would have to question it a bit if hes seen as LB/LWB having not played a great deal at LWB specifically but if Jones wants him there then, will trust his judgement on that one. 

    With Ramsay's future in doubt, Burke.... yeah Burke and Jones needing a rest at times theres plenty of chances up for grabs for him anyway.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 18,402
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Cafc451 said:
    Fee was £100k.
    Didn’t Heracles pay £300k in 2024 since when he’s gone on to do well so they decided to sell him at a loss. Bloody Europeans.
    Yeah but they went down so it's possible we got him on a good deal if they could no longer afford him?
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,942
    He seems to be a cross between Ryan Inniss and Hermann Hreidarsson... What's not to love.
  • Nadou
    Nadou Posts: 1,774
    Thanks for the plug - I wrote that song!


    MickeyBennett said:
    Cafc451 said:
    Not a child.

     
  • The Prince-e-Paul
    The Prince-e-Paul Posts: 6,884
    BigRedEvil said:
    Just asked my mate who supports Heracles Almelo and he says he's brilliant 
    Just asks my mate who went to nursery with him and said he is excellent at colouring-in, and papier mache dinosaurs!
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,565
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    Far too soon to be signing players imo, England haven’t been knocked out of the World Cup yet. 
    Won't be long
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 3,508
    Stones is available according to the BBC.

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 86,576
    msomerton said:
    Stones is available according to the BBC.
    Rather have some of the 6 out of contract DRC players
  • Gisappointed
    Gisappointed Posts: 1,281
    edited July 1
    If ever a fight breaks out on the pitch, I'd rather be in a red shirt than iur opponents
    And I'd also veer towards the right touchline.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 6,103
    CL_Phantom said:
    Like the sound of him. 

    Hoping he's seen more as the LCB (and think he will be ahead of Bell sooner than later personally) than the LB/LWB, although looking on the ever reliable transfer rumours he did play more games at LB than CB, interestingly, only played the one league game at LWB last season.

    The important thing though, played 90+ minutes in all but 4 league games.
    Why would you assume he’d be ahead of Bell when you’ve never seen him play ? 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 20,174
    In the interview yesterday NJ basically confirmed Mesík will be playing wing back
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,618
    wmcf123 said:
    CL_Phantom said:
    Like the sound of him. 

    Hoping he's seen more as the LCB (and think he will be ahead of Bell sooner than later personally) than the LB/LWB, although looking on the ever reliable transfer rumours he did play more games at LB than CB, interestingly, only played the one league game at LWB last season.

    The important thing though, played 90+ minutes in all but 4 league games.
    Why would you assume he’d be ahead of Bell when you’ve never seen him play ? 
    Because Bell has a very poor fitness record. I think Koumetio is probably earmarked for the LCB role over Mesik but Bell has shown we can't rely on his availability, sadly.
  • Addickhead86
    Addickhead86 Posts: 1,186
    thenewbie said:
    wmcf123 said:
    CL_Phantom said:
    Like the sound of him. 

    Hoping he's seen more as the LCB (and think he will be ahead of Bell sooner than later personally) than the LB/LWB, although looking on the ever reliable transfer rumours he did play more games at LB than CB, interestingly, only played the one league game at LWB last season.

    The important thing though, played 90+ minutes in all but 4 league games.
    Why would you assume he’d be ahead of Bell when you’ve never seen him play ? 
    Because Bell has a very poor fitness record. I think Koumetio is probably earmarked for the LCB role over Mesik but Bell has shown we can't rely on his availability, sadly.
    Almost all of Bell's muscle injuries came when he was shifted out to LWB. If he stays LCB I think he'll have much better availability.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,618
    Addickhead86 said:
    thenewbie said:
    wmcf123 said:
    CL_Phantom said:
    Like the sound of him. 

    Hoping he's seen more as the LCB (and think he will be ahead of Bell sooner than later personally) than the LB/LWB, although looking on the ever reliable transfer rumours he did play more games at LB than CB, interestingly, only played the one league game at LWB last season.

    The important thing though, played 90+ minutes in all but 4 league games.
    Why would you assume he’d be ahead of Bell when you’ve never seen him play ? 
    Because Bell has a very poor fitness record. I think Koumetio is probably earmarked for the LCB role over Mesik but Bell has shown we can't rely on his availability, sadly.
    Almost all of Bell's muscle injuries came when he was shifted out to LWB. If he stays LCB I think he'll have much better availability.
    I hope so, I think a fully fit Bell is definitely an asset and fits the system well. Problem is that while I am sure NJ also HOPES his availability gets better we absolutely cannot count on it. 
    There's also his age, 32 isn’t desperately old for a CB but we do need to start considering continuity and having a long term replacement plan.
  • gilbertfilbert
    gilbertfilbert Posts: 2,301
    We just procured it, in Billy.
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 6,018
    edited July 3
    wmcf123 said:
    CL_Phantom said:
    Like the sound of him. 

    Hoping he's seen more as the LCB (and think he will be ahead of Bell sooner than later personally) than the LB/LWB, although looking on the ever reliable transfer rumours he did play more games at LB than CB, interestingly, only played the one league game at LWB last season.

    The important thing though, played 90+ minutes in all but 4 league games.
    Why would you assume he’d be ahead of Bell when you’ve never seen him play ? 

    Read further down to my next comment and you'll see why.

    I'd also rather optimistically assume that most signings we make would be better than the current starting 11 and actually dare to improve.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,700
    edited July 3
    thenewbie said:
    wmcf123 said:
    CL_Phantom said:
    Like the sound of him. 

    Hoping he's seen more as the LCB (and think he will be ahead of Bell sooner than later personally) than the LB/LWB, although looking on the ever reliable transfer rumours he did play more games at LB than CB, interestingly, only played the one league game at LWB last season.

    The important thing though, played 90+ minutes in all but 4 league games.
    Why would you assume he’d be ahead of Bell when you’ve never seen him play ? 
    Because Bell has a very poor fitness record. I think Koumetio is probably earmarked for the LCB role over Mesik but Bell has shown we can't rely on his availability, sadly.
    Would you describe 32 league starts and 2 substitute appearances as "very poor" in terms of a fitness record in the 25/26 season?

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