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  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 32,123
    Just to mention that Cash and Glasspool were knocked out in the quarter finals of the Men's Doubles yesterday. Understandably overshadowed by King Arthur.

    Shame they couldn't defend their Wimbledon title but as I've posted further up the thread their form has been inconsistent (and that might be a polite way of putting it) this season so not a great surprise.
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,933
    edited July 9
    Can't see Fery beating Zverev on grass but we can only hope. Zverev should be able to overpower Fery but Fery's superb fitness and defensive talents should put him in with a shout.

    Fery's attitude is one of his main strengths - doesn't seem to get fazed by the attention he is getting. Very level headed and grounded.

    Grass may prove to be his best surface but time will tell. 
    agree. His mental attitude and calmness is amazing as is his defensive play and accuracy. Very impressive and hopefully he'll have success on other surfaces
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 42,609
    edited July 9
    I wonder how many male tennis players gave up playing, when young and in favour of other sports (or their regulatory body made that decision for them) because they thought they were going to be too short in height to make it to the top. Someone like Dan Evans (5' 9'') has had a fairly decent career but never hit the heights (excuse the pun) and his stature and ability to dominate because of that must have been a hindrance. 

    Ken Rosewall (5' 7'') and Rod Laver (5' 8'') came from another era and the likes of Gaston Gaudio (5' 9'') and Michael Chang (5' 9'') won the French Open but I can't think of any others to win a Grand Slam in the last 50 years of that sort of height and certainly not on any surface other than clay.

    Fingers crossed, that Fery changes that perception and becomes an inspiration to others though it will, of course, be an astonishing achievement should he do so.  
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,933
    I wonder how many male tennis players gave up playing, when young and in favour of other sports (or their regulatory body made that decision for them) because they thought they were going to be too short in height to make it to the top. Someone like Dan Evans (5' 9'') has had a fairly decent career but never hit the heights (excuse the pun) and his stature and ability to dominate because of that must have been a hindrance. 

    Ken Rosewall (5' 7'') and Rod Laver (5' 8'') came from another era and the likes of Gaston Gaudio (5' 9'') and Michael Chang (5' 9'') won the French Open but I can't think of any others to win a Grand Slam in the last 50 years of that sort of height and certainly not on any other surface other than clay.

    Fingers crossed, that Fery changes that perception and becomes an inspiration to others though it will, of course, be an astonishing achievement should he do so.  
    He said he had to develop other parts of his game because of it. I He seems to have a very good all round game though and still serves aces even if he doesn't have a Zverevesque serve
  • thickandthin63
    thickandthin63 Posts: 3,144
    I wonder how many male tennis players gave up playing, when young and in favour of other sports (or their regulatory body made that decision for them) because they thought they were going to be too short in height to make it to the top. Someone like Dan Evans (5' 9'') has had a fairly decent career but never hit the heights (excuse the pun) and his stature and ability to dominate because of that must have been a hindrance. 

    Ken Rosewall (5' 7'') and Rod Laver (5' 8'') came from another era and the likes of Gaston Gaudio (5' 9'') and Michael Chang (5' 9'') won the French Open but I can't think of any others to win a Grand Slam in the last 50 years of that sort of height and certainly not on any other surface other than clay.

    Fingers crossed, that Fery changes that perception and becomes an inspiration to others though it will, of course, be an astonishing achievement should he do so.  
    He said he had to develop other parts of his game because of it. I He seems to have a very good all round game though and still serves aces even if he doesn't have a Zverevesque serve
    I think Agassi was about 5.10.What Arthur has to somehow do to have a chance is get the ball in play,and keep the rallies going.he will have the edge in speed and agility,and possibly patience,a big ask,but Zerev does have lapses and does get a bit touchy when he is under pressure.Still when was the last time we had a mens semi final to look forward to,cheers Arthur whatever happens.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 42,609
    Confident start from Fery and it's Zverev making all the mistakes. 1-1 in games but a hold to love for Fery.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 42,609
    Wimbledon is to tennis as The Masters is to golf. Full of tradition and nothing changes especially when it comes to the all white attire. Great to see. 
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,883
    Wimbledon is to tennis as The Masters is to golf. Full of tradition and nothing changes especially when it comes to the all white attire. Great to see. 
    Getting rid of all the line judges was a fairly big change.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 42,609
    Talal said:
    Wimbledon is to tennis as The Masters is to golf. Full of tradition and nothing changes especially when it comes to the all white attire. Great to see. 
    Getting rid of all the line judges was a fairly big change.
    But no net technology
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 42,609
    Fery is so quick across the court

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 20,174
    Fery is so quick across the court
    Also fantastic when his back is against the wall. Think he needed to be broken and then get himself wound up
  • Fery having to work hard. No easy points.
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,933
    Must be challenging to have never faced a sere as good as Zverev's

    As much as other players will get to know how Fery plays, he will aslo imporve as he gets used to and adapts to the top players
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,933
    edited July 10
    I think I'm more nervous than Fery is!
  • CAFCBill
    CAFCBill Posts: 423
    I think I'm more nervous than Fery is!
    Make that two of us 
  • Zverev has a huge advantage on serve.
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,933
    Zverev has a huge advantage on serve.
    Annoying, isnt it? And his serve ramps up a notch further when he needs it to
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 66,698
    Zverev clinical on the tiebreak unfortunately
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 24,006
    Ouch, 7-0 tiebreak.  Shame, as Fery had done so well to break back in the main set.

    Uphill battle from here.  Would love Fery to beat Zverev though - not just because Fery is British either.
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,933
    Ouch, 7-0 tiebreak.  Shame, as Fery had done so well to break back in the main set.

    Uphill battle from here.  Would love Fery to beat Zverev though - not just because Fery is British either.
    Fery has pretty much not got to make any mistake, hang in there and force Zverev into making some. He did so well to take him to a tie break, but has made a few unforced errors - like Zverev's volley just now on the first point of his service game.

    A very tall ask

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  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,904
    Arfur struggling with the big stage? finding problems with stuff he needs to shut out
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 20,174
    What are you supposed to do against a 100+mph forehand?
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,904
    fenaddick said:
    What are you supposed to do against a 100+mph forehand?
    I meant getting distracted by camera noise and crowd noise
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 20,174
    edited July 10
    fenaddick said:
    What are you supposed to do against a 100+mph forehand?
    I meant getting distracted by camera noise and crowd noise
    Oh was a standalone comment to yours. That said, he loved the cameras and crowds in the previous two rounds. Think he's just being outclassed, no shame in that
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,904
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    What are you supposed to do against a 100+mph forehand?
    I meant getting distracted by camera noise and crowd noise
    Oh was a standalone comment to yours. That said, he loved the cameras and crowds in the previous two rounds. Think he's just being outclassed, no shame in that
    ah ok  :) yeah as Henman just said like boxers from different weight divisions, Fery's first serve is more like second serve, other than his speed he doesn't have a weapon.
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,933
    Arfur struggling with the big stage? finding problems with stuff he needs to shut out
    Not with the big stage. But not being used to playing a player of Zverev's ability - that should come better with doing it more and learning.

    I think the matches up til now are starting to take their toll - he's not playing as well
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,933
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    What are you supposed to do against a 100+mph forehand?
    I meant getting distracted by camera noise and crowd noise
    Oh was a standalone comment to yours. That said, he loved the cameras and crowds in the previous two rounds. Think he's just being outclassed, no shame in that
    ah ok  :) yeah as Henman just said like boxers from different weight divisions, Fery's first serve is more like second serve, other than his speed he doesn't have a weapon.
    He's got plenty of weapons, just not one huge one, is very quick and has a good all round game. Tim Henman is being unnecessarily critical. Andrew Cotter is much much objective and I prefer Todd Woodbridge to Henman, who I think has issues that he only made it to the semi.

    Zverev is playing the best I've ever seen him at WImbledon - his confidence is sky high after the French
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 32,123
    This is the tennis equivalent of a top side playing a non league side in football.

    Arthur has done really well to get to this point but the class of a grand slam champion is beginning to show and he has an uphill struggle 
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,904
    It feels like when we played Southampton at home  :D
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,933
    HIs pace reminds me a bit of De Minaur (but different body shape) - he has similar issues again the tall, big hitters and he's 6 foot. Been in the top 10 a while but not made a GS semi