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  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 4,320
    The ridiculous ticket pricing is down to FIFA, so don't expect it to be affordable at any future World Cup, unless anything else changes at that organisation.
    The ridiculous ticket pricing is down to FIFA, so don't expect it to be affordable at any future World Cup, unless anything else changes at that organisation.
    This is true - however, at least 30-50% of most games I imagine must have been sold to American residents or similar? The 3/4th play off clearly had few England fans but was sold out. This pricing can work in US, Saudi, UAE etc… 

    Even ignoring the higher priced later stages, the group matches at £150-500. Tens of thousands of people in Spain, Portugal and Morocco simply don’t have that sort of money to fill a lot of the matches. Will be interesting to see. Here’s hoping but with no expectation 
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,433
    edited July 20
    cafctom said:
    Hi all,

    A few people on here asked about me putting together a day by day account of the World Cup trip I did in the US. Unfortunately, I didn't get the chance to put something like that together. The main reason being that I was on the go absolutely non-stop for 18 days and only really had the chance to gather much of my thoughts on things once I got back.

    So here are an assortment of thoughts from the trip out there broken into a few topics. 

    GAMES

    I did the following matches:

    - England vs Croatia - Dallas
    - England vs Ghana - Boston
    - England vs Panama - New York / New Jersey
    - England vs DR Congo - Atlanta

    I wish I'd been able to stay on, especially to do the Azteca game, but the reality was that I had to return to work. 3x weeks off is the most I'd ever done, and I prioritized the games that had certainty in their location and dates. With the geography for this tournament being so vast, it wouldn't have been easy to change plans and go to a different city/country altogether had England finished 2nd/3rd in the group, or been knocked out. 

    The 2024 Euros in Germany were a lot different as you could just get on a train to wherever you needed to go. This World Cup was on a whole different level in terms of logistics. 

    PRICES

    For each of the four games I paid somewhere between 150-200 GBP. I’m somewhere in the medium-high end of the England supporters club points’ scheme, which I meant I could get the tickets at far more sensible prices than those just looking to turn up for the World Cup only.

    It definitely pays to be part of the England Travel Club for tournaments like this, as long as you’re willing to put aside a few nights a year for qualifiers, friendlies etc at Wembley. 

    The major issue was the cost of the Final. The way it works is that FIFA take the money off you in February and you have to pay the money up front for any knockout games you want to to - even if England don’t get there. If England get knocked out - you then get your money back. 

    For me, that was about £3100 for the Final alone. And that is one of the cheapest tickets you can get without being a ‘top capper’ (ie - someone who hasn’t missed a single England home/away game in about 5-10 years).

    So I’ll get that money back - but FIFA kindly wanted to hold onto it for about 6 months and make all the interest off it…

    I was very organised when it came to planning travel, hotels etc and on average only spent about £120 on average per night. But that did involve having to get hotels booked on free cancellation literally within moments of the draw being done back in December. A lot of people do the same through necessity if you know you definitely plan to go. 

    CITIES

    Stayed in 10 different places in total, mixing the football with the sightseeing:

    - Chicago
    - Dallas
    - Memphis
    - Nashville
    - Boston
    - New York
    - New Jersey
    - Philadelphia
    - Washington DC
    - Atlanta

    What was interesting was that even in the cities where there were no games taking place - there were football fans/shirts everywhere. Nashville for example - a lot of England, Scotland and Australia fans gathered there just for the party on the weekend I was there. And I tell you what - that city is the BEST night out imaginable. 

    Even in Washington DC they had a big FIFA fan-park there, even though there were no matches happening there. 

    From a sightseeing perspective, I liked every stop. Each have their own different personality. But personal favorites were Chicago and Nashville. 

    THE STADIUMS

    All of them were absolutely monstrous in size and really do look the part. The most impressive I visited were Dallas and Atlanta. Thankfully both indoors too, because the heat outside was unbearable for anything more than a few minutes at a time. 

    I didn’t experience any issues getting in or out, but 3 out of the 4 were quite far out of town:

    “Dallas” is actually Arlington - about 25 miles away. For this I was on a coach organised by England fans that worked well, but because it wasn’t a FIFA organised coach meant we had to walk about 25 mins in the heat from a bar where it parked up to the stadium.

    Similar for Boston (actually in Foxborough, about 45 mins drive away), but what we’d been booked onto was a local school bus! 

    For New York/New Jersey it was the infamous “NJ transit” service that made all the headlines. I got the coach version which cost me $20 for a return and ran very smoothly. Only issue being you had to queue for about 45 mins after the game to get on one back to Manhattan.

    THE LOCALS

    Anyone who has spent time in America will largely share the experience that locals are generally very, very friendly - and that was my experience too. I've been to America maybe 30-40 times, mostly with work, and never had any issues with the people. 

    But on this occasion it was clear that they were genuinely very fascinated by the football culture coming into their city. I don't think many of them had ever seen anything like it. Particularly in places like Boston where they had god knows how many Scottish take over their city for 2 weeks. On the whole - the locals loved every bit of it. 

    As for the interest in the football itself, I was surprised with how many Americans seemed to be glued to the whole thing. If you got in an Uber - they'd be able to tell you what scores happened the day before, who is playing today etc. 

    Though my most interesting Uber journey was in Dallas where the driver asked me to say a prayer with her "for all the England soccer fans visiting the United States of America!". I joined in through politeness, not realizing I would end up being asked to pray on about 7 different random occasions across the trip.

    A lot of people who went to USA 94 often comment on how the World Cup experience was great in the stadiums, but it was as if nobody else outside of the grounds really knew or cared for it. However for WC 2026, it was the complete opposite. It was EVERYWHERE. Every bar, supermarket, billboard, TV chat show - you'd have to be under a rock to not know it was going on. It took over the place. 

    The TV coverage on Fox was quite strange. They had every single game, but it was obvious to anyone who has followed the game for a long time that they were catering their coverage for the “first time viewers”. That involved talking up the USA’s chances wherever possible, knowing full well that it was required to keep their interest. Even the ‘expert’ pundits like Thierry Henry and Zlatan Ibrahimovich were clearly instructed to adjust what they say for the audience involved. 

    MATCH-GOING FANS

    Saw a comment a few posts up about how it seemed to just be middle class types who weren't proper football fans. There was an element of that - but, I think thats the case at all major tournaments.

    Its important to note that FIFA had given tiny allocations to the official supporters clubs. For example, the games I went to only had between 3-4k official supporters club tickets for each team. So you're looking at about 10% or less for the regular fans who follow the team through thick and thin. They've done this for the obvious reason that they want more tickets to go to those willing to spend ridiculous over-the-odds costs to go to a one-off game. 

    What was striking was that there were a lot of Americans going to games who had seemingly adopted one of the teams at the game, and gone 'all in'. It wouldn't be uncommon to see a family of 4 going to say England v Croatia, and they've all got American accents - but all wearing the latest Croatia shirt with 'Modric' on the back. It was as if they'd flipped a coin for which team they were going to take on as their own, and then spent all the money they could to take part in the World Cup experience. 

    I got my tickets through the English FA supporters club, so was largely grouped alongside like-minded English 'proper' football fans who know the etiquette of being at a game. However, there was one surprising moment in the Dallas stadium where an American women was somehow in our end and had ordered a Pecan Pie desert via an app to her seat!

    What really surprised me was how many fans did travel from abroad though. At the Panama and Croatia games in particular, they had brought thousands and thousands out there. I think we may have actually been outnumbered versus Panama. They took over Time Square the night before the game. And the night before that, the place was absolutely mobbed with Ecuador who reportedly had 20,000. Brilliant scenes though, with fans from all countries mixing together and no signs of trouble. 

    And the Scots....every single one of them had their kilt out, every single day. Lucky buggers as well - every bar they went into, they got absolutely mobbed by beautiful Americans the moment they walked in. 

    All in all, a very enjoyable trip and one of those that I will remember for a very long time. I’d be happy to see a World Cup in America again (probably 2038). The people were great hosts and there is so much to do outside of the games that you can’t really get bored. 

    As for the costs….Yes, it’s expensive - but if you plan well enough in advance (and put the time in to support England outside of just the tournaments) then it’s nowhere near as bad.

    I know this has been a long post, and hopefully some have found it interesting. Happy to answer any questions.





    Glad you had a great time.
    Out of curiosity, were there many outlets to be able to purchase tickets for games?  The grounds looked pretty much full.
    As far as I know, the main official route was through the FIFA marketplace - where the prices were absolutely sky high. I met people following England and Scotland who spent anywhere between £700-£1,500 each for single games in the group stage/Round of 32. And quite surprisingly, the prices didn’t drop dramatically on the day of the game. 

    It wasn’t the sort of tournament where you’d just meet someone in a bar who happened to have a spare or anything like that. Think those days are long gone. 

    Looking ahead to 2030, I suspect FIFA know that those prices simply won’t fly with the locals in those countries. But, they also don’t want to see their balance sheet drop. So I think 64 teams is inevitable to try and make up the delta. 

    People are willing to travel for these events in their thousands, even from smaller countries, far more than I realised. And they will spend big money if they have to, for fear of missing out. 

    So there’s no reason for FIFA to make the pricing “cheap” the way UEFA do if they don’t want to. 

    But like I said - anyone who wants to go - join the England Travel Club, go to a few games at Wembley a year (yes, that does mean boring friendlies and qualifiers), and this stuff isn’t too much of an issue.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,597


     








    As far as I know, the main official route was through the FIFA marketplace - where the prices were absolutely sky high. I met people following England and Scotland who spent anywhere between £700-£1,500 each for single games in the group stage/Round of 32.

    It wasn’t the sort of tournament where you’d just meet someone in a bar who happened to have a spare or anything like that. Think those days are long gone. 
    That is shocking to see, exploitation is the word.

  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 4,320
    edited July 20
    I did actually meet a few people in bars with tickets to sell to be fair. But it’s hard. I got a face value one from an England fan for Mexico whos brother wasn’t attending and just wanted to sell to an England fan. 

    I also met an absolute c*nt in a bar the day before the Mexico game. High caps England fan. Had bought 4 tickets with his memberships family/ kids etc for each game but was only using 2 and was then selling the 2 spares each time on for profit. We were in the bar and my mate was after a ticket (before we found the face value one). This guy was sat in a group of about 8 mates several whom didn’t have tickets and he did; but instead of just selling them to his mates for face value so they could all have the experience together, he had them on the fifa marketplace for 10x.

    Chelsea fan if you’re asking. 
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,821
    The ridiculous ticket pricing is down to FIFA, so don't expect it to be affordable at any future World Cup, unless anything else changes at that organisation.
    Yeah but they knew a lot of Americans would be buying those tickets, and Americans have more money than us Europoors
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,778
    FIFA taking no further action for Paredes. 

    Laughable.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 48,396
    edited July 21
    I think the success of the tournament has been the stadiums and the crowds, The failures have been unfair schedules, FIFA changing the rules to suit Trump, Paraguay and Argentina being allowed to bring the game into disrepute even though they are investigating Argentina now). Also, I have no love for Iran but they were treated unfairly which should not happen. Infantino has been a big negative but that would be the case wherever the World Cup was played. 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,693
    FIFA taking no further action for Paredes. 

    Laughable.
    I'm not sure but I think this is being misreported on Twitter for engagement. I think they've just confirmed that there was no action taken after the game. Some reports he was red carded but apparently he wasn't. 
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 5,038
    FIFA taking no further action for Paredes. 

    Laughable.

    They're only just starting an investigation into it
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,769
    FIFA investigation check list.

    Stage 1. Is it Messi?
    N = next stage.
    Y = case closed.

    Stage 2. Is he Argentinian?
    N= next stage.
    Y = case closed.

    Stage 3. Is it alright with The Donald?
    N = Get a book, throw it at em...
    Y = case closed.



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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,778
    Chunes said:
    FIFA taking no further action for Paredes. 

    Laughable.
    I'm not sure but I think this is being misreported on Twitter for engagement. I think they've just confirmed that there was no action taken after the game. Some reports he was red carded but apparently he wasn't. 
    Fair enough, got sent a screenshot of a tweet (as don’t use twitter) and that’s how it read
  • MrWalker
    MrWalker Posts: 4,348
    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cqjxzy44l0vo
    Extracts

    La Liga president Javier Tebas has called for Fifa president Gianni Infantino to step down, claiming the world governing body is "destroying the football industry".

    In an interview with Italian newspaper La Gazzetta dello Sport, external, the head of the Spanish league also criticised World Cup hydration breaks, the final's lengthy half-time interval, the postponement of a suspension for United States striker Folarin Balogun, and the future possibility of a 64-team summer tournament.

    When asked if Infantino should quit, Tebas said: "In my opinion, yes, I think his time is up."

    However, he stated that the 56-year-old has the support of national federations, and claimed Fifa's election system is "rotten at its core".

    European football's governing body Uefa criticised Fifa's decision at the time, calling it "unprecedented, incomprehensible and unjustifiable", and the decision was a factor in the organisation's president Aleksander Ceferin not attending the World Cup final.

    "It's the national competitions that sustain this sport. They are destroying the football industry, which generates tens of thousands of jobs, for an event that lasts 40 days and involves a minority of players.

    "Fifa arranges things as it pleases, for what it wants, for its own interests, certainly not for football," said Tebas. "So, if they need a 27-minute half-time break, they'll have it.

    "Hydration breaks are a lie. We have them in La Liga, but only when it's genuinely hot.

    "Here, the pitches in Dallas, Los Angeles, Atlanta had air conditioning; I had to put on a jumper in the stands. It was a lie, a break for advertising.

    "It's proof that we are governed by an institution that does and decides what it wants, when it wants, following only its own interests without considering the rest of football. And in many cases, it acts to the detriment of football."



  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 20,975
    Tebas is the death knell for any movement so congratulations Gianni on your victory! 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,778
    Cubarsi didn’t get in the team of the tournament over Martinez and upamecano
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 24,102
    Cubarsi didn’t get in the team of the tournament over Martinez and upamecano
    Vozinha got in there but Simon was the golden glove winner, so not sure I'd pay that much attention!
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,778
    Just see it’s fans voted tho 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 66,910
    Last twelve World Cups shared by six nations:

    Italy 1982, 2006
    Argentina 1986, 2022
    (West) Germany 1990, 2014
    Brazil 1994, 2002
    France 1998, 2018
    Spain 2010, 2026
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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 24,182
    Last twelve World Cups shared by six nations:

    Italy 1982, 2006
    Argentina 1986, 2022
    (West) Germany 1990, 2014
    Brazil 1994, 2002
    France 1998, 2018
    Spain 2010, 2026
    Weird stat.

    Because 1978 was also Argentina. 1974 was West Germany. 1970 was Brazil. 

    So why say last 12 and not last 15? 
    I guess because then it breaks the perfect order of 2 wins for each nation too 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 24,102
    Just see it’s fans voted tho 
    Ah ok, hadn't seen that!

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  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,466
    Trump looking good after another coat of Ronseal.


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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 66,910
    sam3110 said:
    Last twelve World Cups shared by six nations:

    Italy 1982, 2006
    Argentina 1986, 2022
    (West) Germany 1990, 2014
    Brazil 1994, 2002
    France 1998, 2018
    Spain 2010, 2026
    Weird stat.

    Because 1978 was also Argentina. 1974 was West Germany. 1970 was Brazil. 

    So why say last 12 and not last 15? 
    I guess because then it breaks the perfect order of 2 wins for each nation too 
    Yep, that makes a lot of sense when you think about the sort of people that post that sort of stuff! 🙄
    What’s that supposed to mean? Weird
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,807
    sam3110 said:
    Last twelve World Cups shared by six nations:

    Italy 1982, 2006
    Argentina 1986, 2022
    (West) Germany 1990, 2014
    Brazil 1994, 2002
    France 1998, 2018
    Spain 2010, 2026
    Weird stat.

    Because 1978 was also Argentina. 1974 was West Germany. 1970 was Brazil. 

    So why say last 12 and not last 15? 
    I guess because then it breaks the perfect order of 2 wins for each nation too 
    Yep, that makes a lot of sense when you think about the sort of people that post that sort of stuff! 🙄
    Eh? 
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  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,807
    sam3110 said:
    Last twelve World Cups shared by six nations:

    Italy 1982, 2006
    Argentina 1986, 2022
    (West) Germany 1990, 2014
    Brazil 1994, 2002
    France 1998, 2018
    Spain 2010, 2026
    Weird stat.

    Because 1978 was also Argentina. 1974 was West Germany. 1970 was Brazil. 

    So why say last 12 and not last 15? 
    I guess because then it breaks the perfect order of 2 wins for each nation too 
    Yep, that makes a lot of sense when you think about the sort of people that post that sort of stuff! 🙄
    What’s that supposed to mean? Weird
    Also exactly the sort of reply I would expect from someone like you to that statement 😂
    Have I missed something here? 
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,736
    sam3110 said:
    Last twelve World Cups shared by six nations:

    Italy 1982, 2006
    Argentina 1986, 2022
    (West) Germany 1990, 2014
    Brazil 1994, 2002
    France 1998, 2018
    Spain 2010, 2026
    Weird stat.

    Because 1978 was also Argentina. 1974 was West Germany. 1970 was Brazil. 

    So why say last 12 and not last 15? 
    I guess because then it breaks the perfect order of 2 wins for each nation too 
    Yep, that makes a lot of sense when you think about the sort of people that post that sort of stuff! 🙄
    100 posts now and you haven’t actually said anything worth posting.
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 66,910
    sam3110 said:
    Last twelve World Cups shared by six nations:

    Italy 1982, 2006
    Argentina 1986, 2022
    (West) Germany 1990, 2014
    Brazil 1994, 2002
    France 1998, 2018
    Spain 2010, 2026
    Weird stat.

    Because 1978 was also Argentina. 1974 was West Germany. 1970 was Brazil. 

    So why say last 12 and not last 15? 
    I guess because then it breaks the perfect order of 2 wins for each nation too 
    Yep, that makes a lot of sense when you think about the sort of people that post that sort of stuff! 🙄
    What’s that supposed to mean? Weird
    Also exactly the sort of reply I would expect from someone like you to that statement 😂
    Welcome back to the forum Viewfinder. Half expecting you to accuse me of “coaching” children near Dartford, killing communists and having a disabled mother next.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,433
    Well, this escalated.