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  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 24,102
    AndyG said:
    Pissing come off all the pundits saying France never performed! They weren’t allowed too ffs the Spanish totally bossed them from the ko. Stand off the French and they destroy you, pass and move, be quicker in intensity they don’t know what to do 

    well done Spain
    Completely this! That was a masterclass in tactics from Spain. They never gave France a moment of peace on the ball, closed every space, and attacked with speed and control. We may not get past Argentina, but the idea that Spain are an easy option is simply foolish. I was rooting for France from half time having seen how Spain controlled that match.
    Ah well. Gotta beat the refs tonight before we worry about Spain.

  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,402
    Reading some of the reactions online you'd think France had just lost a semi final to someone like Switzerland or Sweden.

    'Shock result', 'huge underdogs', 'surprising defeat'.

    Have people forgotten Spain are ranked 2 in the world, above France, are European Champions (where they beat France in the semi) and had conceded 1 goal all tournament?

    Personally i think Spain will be a tougher game for us than France because Spain keep the ball a lot better and don't give up many chances. Death by 1,000 passes with us chasing shadows for a lot of the game. 

    The one thing we can rely on though is that Tuchel will have a plan. He won the Champions league when his unfancied Chelsea side beat Man City in the final and i think we'd have to do something similar to that. Get the first goal, give up a lot of possession and dig in.

    Of course, we still have a very tough job to do tonight first though.
    Getting ahead of ourselves I know but Gordon has roasted Porro every time they've faced each other in Spurs Newcastle fixtures.  But then again, I've never seen Porro play like he did last night!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 72,791
    Reading some of the reactions online you'd think France had just lost a semi final to someone like Switzerland or Sweden.

    'Shock result', 'huge underdogs', 'surprising defeat'.

    Have people forgotten Spain are ranked 2 in the world, above France, are European Champions (where they beat France in the semi) and had conceded 1 goal all tournament?

    Personally i think Spain will be a tougher game for us than France because Spain keep the ball a lot better and don't give up many chances. Death by 1,000 passes with us chasing shadows for a lot of the game. 

    The one thing we can rely on though is that Tuchel will have a plan. He won the Champions league when his unfancied Chelsea side beat Man City in the final and i think we'd have to do something similar to that. Get the first goal, give up a lot of possession and dig in.

    Of course, we still have a very tough job to do tonight first though.
    Yes, while I expected France to win, it was never going to be a walk in the park. It was almost as if because Spain aren't a team of attacking superstars (other than the quiet until yesterday Yamal) people had ignored what a good all round team they are. And while France had already reached their peak during the tournament, Spain had the potential to reach another level.

    Indeed I had hoped for a much more physically tough game yesterday, with extra time, as the winner yesterday has the advantage of an extra day's rest. Instead, Spain had an easy 90 minutes.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 28,389
    JohnBoyUK said:
    Reading some of the reactions online you'd think France had just lost a semi final to someone like Switzerland or Sweden.

    'Shock result', 'huge underdogs', 'surprising defeat'.

    Have people forgotten Spain are ranked 2 in the world, above France, are European Champions (where they beat France in the semi) and had conceded 1 goal all tournament?

    Personally i think Spain will be a tougher game for us than France because Spain keep the ball a lot better and don't give up many chances. Death by 1,000 passes with us chasing shadows for a lot of the game. 

    The one thing we can rely on though is that Tuchel will have a plan. He won the Champions league when his unfancied Chelsea side beat Man City in the final and i think we'd have to do something similar to that. Get the first goal, give up a lot of possession and dig in.

    Of course, we still have a very tough job to do tonight first though.
    Getting ahead of ourselves I know but Gordon has roasted Porro every time they've faced each other in Spurs Newcastle fixtures.  But then again, I've never seen Porro play like he did last night!
    We’d have to get the ball to give it to Gordon first. 
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,453

    If we somehow scrape through tonight, a final against Spain would be a huge challenge. They completely outplayed us in the Euro 2024 final, and we were fortunate just to get back on level terms for a while despite having only 34% possession and feeding off scraps.

    If we do make it, it'll be fascinating to see how Tuchel approaches them compared to Southgate two years ago. Spain are still the benchmark in international football, so it would be a real tactical test to see whether we can compete with them on more even terms this time.

  • Dugdaleclass
    Dugdaleclass Posts: 625
    Spain will take some beating in the final. They are getting into the same mind set levels they were at when winning the Euros two years ago.

    France were found out by a much better team. Rabiot is very ordinary and looks, in appearance and physicality, as if he would fit better in a Croatian team. Kone has struggled with injuries and Dembele is apt to disappear from games. I also don't think France have found anybody to fully replace Antoine Griezmann in the number 10 role, providing that spark of creativity and skill and popping up in the box to make or score the odd goal.

    Spain, on the other hand have an excellent number 10 in Dani Olmo who has improved at international level year on year. He always finds space and creates openings for team mates as he did last night.

    The Spain manager has been ruthless in fine tuning his side, most notably in consigning Pedri to the bench. Petri was supposed to be a shoe in as a main stay in midfield, but he is apt to dwell too long on the ball which was slowing the team down going forward. Fabian Ruiz has come in and taken some of the heavy lifting away from Rodri who is back to his controlling best. 

    Spain don't have a dangerous goal scorer up front as such. But then they haven't really had one since Fernando Torres hung up his boots. Oyarzabal can be managed by the likes of an England defence. Having said that, he knows how to take a decent penalty. 

    If England do get to the final, Jude B is going to be working overtime during the next few days getting his team mates up to speed on the intricacies of football played the Spanish way.  
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  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 24,102
    Spain will take some beating in the final. They are getting into the same mind set levels they were at when winning the Euros two years ago.

    France were found out by a much better team. Rabiot is very ordinary and looks, in appearance and physicality, as if he would fit better in a Croatian team. Kone has struggled with injuries and Dembele is apt to disappear from games. I also don't think France have found anybody to fully replace Antoine Griezmann in the number 10 role, providing that spark of creativity and skill and popping up in the box to make or score the odd goal.

    Spain, on the other hand have an excellent number 10 in Dani Olmo who has improved at international level year on year. He always finds space and creates openings for team mates as he did last night.

    The Spain manager has been ruthless in fine tuning his side, most notably in consigning Pedri to the bench. Petri was supposed to be a shoe in as a main stay in midfield, but he is apt to dwell too long on the ball which was slowing the team down going forward. Fabian Ruiz has come in and taken some of the heavy lifting away from Rodri who is back to his controlling best. 

    Spain don't have a dangerous goal scorer up front as such. But then they haven't really had one since Fernando Torres hung up his boots. Oyarzabal can be managed by the likes of an England defence. Having said that, he knows how to take a decent penalty. 

    If England do get to the final, Jude B is going to be working overtime during the next few days getting his team mates up to speed on the intricacies of football played the Spanish way.  
    Let's not pretend that Olise hasn't been quality for 90% of this tournament. 

    Had an off day like the rest of the France team last night, admittedly.
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  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,402
    JohnBoyUK said:
    Reading some of the reactions online you'd think France had just lost a semi final to someone like Switzerland or Sweden.

    'Shock result', 'huge underdogs', 'surprising defeat'.

    Have people forgotten Spain are ranked 2 in the world, above France, are European Champions (where they beat France in the semi) and had conceded 1 goal all tournament?

    Personally i think Spain will be a tougher game for us than France because Spain keep the ball a lot better and don't give up many chances. Death by 1,000 passes with us chasing shadows for a lot of the game. 

    The one thing we can rely on though is that Tuchel will have a plan. He won the Champions league when his unfancied Chelsea side beat Man City in the final and i think we'd have to do something similar to that. Get the first goal, give up a lot of possession and dig in.

    Of course, we still have a very tough job to do tonight first though.
    Getting ahead of ourselves I know but Gordon has roasted Porro every time they've faced each other in Spurs Newcastle fixtures.  But then again, I've never seen Porro play like he did last night!
    We’d have to get the ball to give it to Gordon first. 
    Ah... you have spotted a gaping hole in my master plan!

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  • Spain were underrated by so many - it was never going to be easy for France.
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,466
    edited July 15
    Spain were underrated by so many - it was never going to be easy for France.
    France lost to the first world class team they faced, simples.
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,371
    A beautifully controlled performance from Spain, who dictated the tempo from the outset. Every man jack but particular kudos to Rodri and that incredibly tenacious little man Cucurella.

    Spain completely disrupted France’s rhythm with a skilful and disciplined performance and Mbappe, Olise & co never really got going. 
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 8,136
    Blucher said:

    and that incredibly tenacious little man Cucurella.

    You spelt odious, diving fucking cheat wrong…
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 16,685
    France were woeful.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,693
    Blucher said:

    and that incredibly tenacious little man Cucurella.

    You spelt odious, diving fucking cheat wrong…
    He's the reincarnation of Mauricio Taricco.
  • Dansk_Red
    Dansk_Red Posts: 5,786
    Just read that they are proposing a 30mins half time break for the final,  
  • BalladMan
    BalladMan Posts: 1,459
    Dansk_Red said:
    Just read that they are proposing a 30mins half time break for the final,  
    not proposing, it is happening.
    Coldplay, Shikira, Justin Beiber, Madaonna are all playing a ridciulously american half time show. 
    Send the lot of them home...
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,466
    Dansk_Red said:
    Just read that they are proposing a 30mins half time break for the final,  
    $$$$
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 28,021
    I really hope the BBC and ITV just stick to analysis and don't show it

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  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,997
    Do French tears taste of Garlic?
    No, they taste of pizza. The French consume more pizza than the Italians. 
    Sorry, I had heard that somewhere. 
    But it's wrong.

    But the French must certainly eat the most shit pizza. Some places even put potatoes on it!


    I've never been more embarrassed to be an American...

    ...today

    ...But I also haven't had a chance to check the news so that might change

    ...But surely we can do better than the fucking Norways?!?!?!
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 9,238
    MrOneLung said:
    I really hope the BBC and ITV just stick to analysis and don't show it
    They will all show it.
    But I will be turning it the feck off.
    Wankers.
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,876
    BalladMan said:
    Dansk_Red said:
    Just read that they are proposing a 30mins half time break for the final,  
    not proposing, it is happening.
    Coldplay, Shikira, Justin Beiber, Madaonna are all playing a ridciulously american half time show. 
    Send the lot of them home...
    This is the world Cup where it's custodians tried to break it with 2 halves broken into four quarters, world renowned personality has suspension, suspended to allow him to play in the tournament,  the American President influencing red card suspensions, host country vetting participants .. players, team staff and even officials.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,634
    MrOneLung said:
    I really hope the BBC and ITV just stick to analysis and don't show it


    "ITV and BBC are planning to screen in full Fifa’s controversial half-time show from the final at the New York New Jersey Stadium on Sunday, but the broadcasters remain in the dark over how long it will last.

    The half-time spectacle, which has been curated by Coldplay’s Chris Martin and will feature Madonna, Justin Bieber, Shakira and the K‑pop boyband BTS. They are planning for the interval to last between 25 and 30 minutes."

  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 24,102
    edited July 16
    Realised this morning I don't think I've ever watched a 3rd/4th place play-off.

    Also could only remember the score from the Italia 90 one, not a single one since including our one in 2018.

    What's the point?
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,634
    Realised this morning I don't think I've ever watched a 3rd/4th place play-off.

    Also could only remember the score from the Italia 90 one, not a single one since including our one in 2018.

    What's the point?
    There is no point, it's a game that no fan really wants to watch and no player wants to play in. Can bet your life that every French and English player just wants to go on holiday now.

    A 3rd place game is only really needed at the Olympics because of the medals.

    Only player who might care this weekend is Mbappe as he can still win the golden boot.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,159
    Saturday I'd play all those who haven't played so far. Who cares if we lose. No one wants to play it anyway. 
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 30,862
    Realised this morning I don't think I've ever watched a 3rd/4th place play-off.

    Also could only remember the score from the Italia 90 one, not a single one since including our one in 2018.

    What's the point?


    Only player who might care this weekend is Mbappe as he can still win the golden boot.
    I think this shouldn’t be the case, he’s out of the WC.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 28,021
    Realised this morning I don't think I've ever watched a 3rd/4th place play-off.

    Also could only remember the score from the Italia 90 one, not a single one since including our one in 2018.

    What's the point?
    You don't remember Shitty Shilton not only costing us a place in the final, but also costing us 3rd place by dawdling with ball and getting tackled in the penalty area by Baggio?


  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 28,021
    that said, I remember nothing of the 2018 game