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Charlton back up for sale - Guardian article comment from Gavin Carter p18

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 72,846
    Just because we haven't bought any decent midfielders yet, it doesn't necessarily mean that the owners haven't given NJ enough funds this summer anyway. 

    Players aren't just looking for money, the style of football is also important, and our "direct" football last season hardly sells us to better midfielders.

    Galbraith last summer would have found Swansea a LOT more appealing than us for football reasons,  even without the probable salary difference. 
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,525
    Gave up reading 5-6 pages ago.  Which pretty much sums up my feelings about this (and other sites/social media) for the club at the moment. Time for a break.
  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,475
    Are we good enough to stay up with our current squad?


  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,491
    robroy said:
    I appreciate the sound bites, but isn’t that a tad bad on Cawley? He needs people to pay to listen not post what’s said on here. 

    If it’s only £5 a month, that’s under a pint. 

    Not having a dig at anyone btw. 
    I get it but nobody is sharing a transcript or a recording (and I’d remove from here if they did). I’m sure Rich is aware this would happen, it’s still well worth subscribing for this 20 min chat and all the other content.

    Or people can wait for the directors q&a which will cover the same topics I’m sure.


  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,722
    TelMc32 said:
    Gave up reading 5-6 pages ago.  Which pretty much sums up my feelings about this (and other sites/social media) for the club at the moment. Time for a break.
    My approach for 26/27:

    Any good news, Charltonlife is very decent. X and YouTube too.

    Anything complex, not immediately clear or perfect, stick with the professional hit squad in Cawley and Mendez! 
  • CHG
    CHG Posts: 4,560

  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 16,099

    Are Charlton going to have new owners soon?  Brener & Friedman have been looking for help/an exit for ages. They’ve got a new broker They’re looking for £50m+ but there are lots of clubs on market (that don’t involve dealing w/ Duchatelet!). Non-binding bids due next week.

    Matt Slater
    Senior news reporter
    @TheAthleticFC, ex BBC & Press Association.






  • Are Charlton going to have new owners soon?  Brener & Friedman have been looking for help/an exit for ages. They’ve got a new broker They’re looking for £50m+ but there are lots of clubs on market (that don’t involve dealing w/ Duchatelet!). Non-binding bids due next week.

    Matt Slater
    Senior news reporter
    @TheAthleticFC, ex BBC & Press Association.





    50 million 😂😂😂😂

    what a joke 
  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 983
    DOUCHER said:
    Be a lot easier if the current billionaire investors asked their wives if they wanted to buy in  
    That did not work well with Sandgaard.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 21,113
    £50m would most likely represent a loss for them 

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  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 15,024

    Are Charlton going to have new owners soon?  Brener & Friedman have been looking for help/an exit for ages. They’ve got a new broker They’re looking for £50m+ but there are lots of clubs on market (that don’t involve dealing w/ Duchatelet!). Non-binding bids due next week.

    Matt Slater
    Senior news reporter
    @TheAthleticFC, ex BBC & Press Association.





    So in the end everybody was kind of right. They're looking for investors or a takeover overall. Bids apparently due next week. Wouldn't be surprised if that gets pushed back given they've been at this for a year or so apparently. 

    The question becomes what happens if they don't get bids, especially no bids for further investment (because I don't think they're going to get takeover bids)? Will they continue to invest in the squad this summer and beyond? Only time will tell.
  • This guy's getting boring now, a template letter. Context still missing. Come on, do better than that.

    Let's go with the £50m figure - I could see that being the 100% target price for a partial sale; so a 20% investment would have a target price of £10m. Fair enough.

    95% of clubs are permanently for sale if the right price comes along, I'm not seeing anything new here.

    We'll soon find out what plays out.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 21,113
    Bids due next week does explain the timing of the Guardian story and suggests the pitch deck might be being passed around more because of the deadline 
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,565
    So valuing the football side at 50M + 50M for the training ground/stadium which is 100M overall. 

    No investors in their right mind will value the club at that 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,663
    mendonca said:
    sam3110 said:
    Doesn't think having no CEO has hurt us, so they're not concerned that they haven't filled it yet, but they're still looking for one
    I remember him saying we were very close to appointing a CEO in the last 'meet the directors'. Assume that fell through too?
    Assume that it might have been a load of cobblers.

  • TeeC
    TeeC Posts: 327
    With the oddities of WSL football finance, how much do we think the women’s promotion has maybe increased the urgency of this sale?
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,663
    TeeC said:
    With the oddities of WSL football finance, how much do we think the women’s promotion has maybe increased the urgency of this sale?

    It might have lessened our transfer budget on what matters most, the mens team.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 21,113
    TeeC said:
    With the oddities of WSL football finance, how much do we think the women’s promotion has maybe increased the urgency of this sale?

    It might have lessened our transfer budget on what matters most, the mens team.
    It’s brought £4m or so into the club so I doubt it 
  • follett
    follett Posts: 1,314
    So Carter skated around the truth then
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,663
    fenaddick said:
    TeeC said:
    With the oddities of WSL football finance, how much do we think the women’s promotion has maybe increased the urgency of this sale?

    It might have lessened our transfer budget on what matters most, the mens team.
    It’s brought £4m or so into the club so I doubt it 

    Okay, so I stand corrected.
    I seem to recall Sir Charlie not being too keen on the financial side connected with the womens team and was to the detriment of the mens.  Happy to be wrong on this.

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  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,836

    Charlton Fan Advocates
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    No direct quotes but Rich was briefed by the club for this story


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    Confirms that Cawley was briefed by the club as suspected which is fine but the club does also have its own press team and media outlets it could, and IMHO still should, use.
    I said something similar the other day about the club should update us about long term injuries (Edwards) & some wanker accused me of attacking Cawley for making money  :D
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 5,602
    Surely the bottom line is the existing owners apparently have the means to invest more if they chose to but (understandably) don’t want to. 

    But for some reason think they can persuade others to chip in because it’s such an attractive financial opportunity and not just a short term vanity project to play at being a football club owner. 

    Let’s get real - They want others to share the cost or buy them out at not too great a loss. 


  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,448
    fenaddick said:
    TeeC said:
    With the oddities of WSL football finance, how much do we think the women’s promotion has maybe increased the urgency of this sale?

    It might have lessened our transfer budget on what matters most, the mens team.
    It’s brought £4m or so into the club so I doubt it 
    Would love to say that’s correct but don’t believe the figure is anywhere near that. A £65M deal over five years for the total WSL was announced in 2024.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 86,827
    follett said:
    So Carter skated around the truth then
    More like Slater is pulling numbers from the air again.
  • AberystwythAddick
    AberystwythAddick Posts: 2,018
    edited August 4
    They won’t get the 50million they’re asking for 
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,488

    Charlton Fan Advocates
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    No direct quotes but Rich was briefed by the club for this story


    ______
    Confirms that Cawley was briefed by the club as suspected which is fine but the club does also have its own press team and media outlets it could, and IMHO still should, use.
    I said something similar the other day about the club should update us about long term injuries (Edwards) & some wanker accused me of attacking Cawley for making money  :D
    Can you narrow it down a bit?
    Could be half the people on here.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,785
    Is there any indication yet as to how crucial the next two weeks are going to be?
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 21,113
    fenaddick said:
    TeeC said:
    With the oddities of WSL football finance, how much do we think the women’s promotion has maybe increased the urgency of this sale?

    It might have lessened our transfer budget on what matters most, the mens team.
    It’s brought £4m or so into the club so I doubt it 
    Would love to say that’s correct but don’t believe the figure is anywhere near that. A £65M deal over five years for the total WSL was announced in 2024.
    Yeah I may have misremembered. I've had a mooch through a few WSL teams accounts over the last few years and broadcast revenue for non UEFA teams and I've found numbers of 500k, 750k & 1.7m which is quite broad. None of them are insignificant and will cover the transfer costs of the Women's team easily but I will put myself in finance jail for the night nonetheless!
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 19,459
    So as Carter said, all businesses have a price, and if someone matches it, then cool
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,488
    Chizz said:
    Is there any indication yet as to how crucial the next two midfielders are going to be?