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Ezri Konsa (p3. England U20 call up)

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  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 19,393
    Leapt like a salmon ! 

    OUR salmon ! 
  • GNelson
    GNelson Posts: 575
    Mike Salmon?
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 29,678
    Apparently Arsenal and now Liverpool are after signing him - is there a possibility of a sell on via Brentford, or is that too much to hope for?
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 15,056
    aliwibble said:
    Apparently Arsenal and now Liverpool are after signing him - is there a possibility of a sell on via Brentford, or is that too much to hope for?
    I suspect our sell on fee was activated when he went from Brentford to Villa. I know there are like regulations around young player development fees now, but I don't know what they are. Either way, I think it's doubtful we'd see much if anything.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 24,401
    SDAddick said:
    aliwibble said:
    Apparently Arsenal and now Liverpool are after signing him - is there a possibility of a sell on via Brentford, or is that too much to hope for?
    I suspect our sell on fee was activated when he went from Brentford to Villa. I know there are like regulations around young player development fees now, but I don't know what they are. Either way, I think it's doubtful we'd see much if anything.
    I thought there's a thing about payments to every club that "developed" the player, and every subsequent move it decreases in amount. 

    Don't know how far it goes back though. 

    Actually scrap that just looked it up and it's for international transfers only.

    If there was a sell on between Brentford and Villa, we'd get a cut of that though, as we had a sell on with Brentford.

    So say he goes for 50m and Brentford had a 10% sell on, they get 5m, but then we had a 20% sell on, we'd get 20% of the 5m, so we'd get 1m
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,296
    sam3110 said:
    SDAddick said:
    aliwibble said:
    Apparently Arsenal and now Liverpool are after signing him - is there a possibility of a sell on via Brentford, or is that too much to hope for?
    I suspect our sell on fee was activated when he went from Brentford to Villa. I know there are like regulations around young player development fees now, but I don't know what they are. Either way, I think it's doubtful we'd see much if anything.
    I thought there's a thing about payments to every club that "developed" the player, and every subsequent move it decreases in amount. 

    Don't know how far it goes back though. 

    Actually scrap that just looked it up and it's for international transfers only.

    If there was a sell on between Brentford and Villa, we'd get a cut of that though, as we had a sell on with Brentford.

    So say he goes for 50m and Brentford had a 10% sell on, they get 5m, but then we had a 20% sell on, we'd get 20% of the 5m, so we'd get 1m
    If he went for 50m and Brentford had a 10% sell on they wouldn’t get 5m they’d get 10% on the difference between 50m and whatever Villa paid for him from Brentford.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 14,883
    LargeAddick said:
    sam3110 said:
    SDAddick said:
    aliwibble said:
    Apparently Arsenal and now Liverpool are after signing him - is there a possibility of a sell on via Brentford, or is that too much to hope for?
    I suspect our sell on fee was activated when he went from Brentford to Villa. I know there are like regulations around young player development fees now, but I don't know what they are. Either way, I think it's doubtful we'd see much if anything.
    I thought there's a thing about payments to every club that "developed" the player, and every subsequent move it decreases in amount. 

    Don't know how far it goes back though. 

    Actually scrap that just looked it up and it's for international transfers only.

    If there was a sell on between Brentford and Villa, we'd get a cut of that though, as we had a sell on with Brentford.

    So say he goes for 50m and Brentford had a 10% sell on, they get 5m, but then we had a 20% sell on, we'd get 20% of the 5m, so we'd get 1m
    If he went for 50m and Brentford had a 10% sell on they wouldn’t get 5m they’d get 10% on the difference between 50m and whatever Villa paid for him from Brentford.
    Depends on how the sell on was negotiated. You can negotiate a percentage of any profit or you can negotiate a full sell on, we'll never know what these deals are though. I do seem to remember reading that Roland was offering cut-price bargain deals for players if the buying team would pay all the cash straight away and I feel like Konsa fell into that period so we probably don't have a sell on at all.
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 15,167
    Didn't think we had a sell on as RD just sold him for maximum upfront cash as he was selling the club.
  • kodfish
    kodfish Posts: 665
    Athletico Charlton said:
    Didn't think we had a sell on as RD just sold him for maximum upfront cash as he was selling the club.
     I think you’re correct unfortunately . 
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,387
    kodfish said:
    Athletico Charlton said:
    Didn't think we had a sell on as RD just sold him for maximum upfront cash as he was selling the club.
     I think you’re correct unfortunately . 
    !00% - there definitely was no sell-on. Duchatelet wanted a slightly bigger upfront fee - an act of egregious stupidity on his part.

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  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,306
    Fee agreed with Arsenal, 50m rising to possible 60m 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,296
    stackitsteve said:
    Fee agreed with Arsenal, 50m rising to possible 60m 
    Villa losing a lot of players.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 16,526
    unfortunately a very good signing for Arsenal
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 53,132
    Konsa supported Spurs as a kid.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,245
    Covered End said:
    Konsa supported Spurs as a kid.
    Harry Kane supported Arsenal.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 14,606
    Good time to stick him in your dream teams, gets around the 2 players per team cap.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 28,075
    Good stop gap until Saliba is fit
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 24,401
    MrOneLung said:
    Good stop gap until Saliba is fit
    Quite possibly ends up at right back for them, probably a better bet than Ben White in the role, I know Arteta likes having a more physical player back there than a modern day wingback
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 24,187
    MrOneLung said:
    Good stop gap until Saliba is fit
    How long is he out?

    Feels like they’ve got about 6 centre backs, although Arteta plays half of them at full back.

    And only really makes sense for Konsa of Saliba is out long-term otherwise he'll be sitting on the bench a lot behind Saliba and Gabriel.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,679
    sam3110 said:
    MrOneLung said:
    Good stop gap until Saliba is fit
    Quite possibly ends up at right back for them, probably a better bet than Ben White in the role, I know Arteta likes having a more physical player back there than a modern day wingback
    They have Timber.

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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,679
    LargeAddick said:
    stackitsteve said:
    Fee agreed with Arsenal, 50m rising to possible 60m 
    Villa losing a lot of players.
    Terrible summer for them.

    Rogers, Tielemans, Digne, Malen, Konsa gone. Martinez is also likely going and Watkins is apparently keen on a move to Saudi.
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 7,867
    Shame he's going to Arsenal. Cannot stand them
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 25,673
    I don’t care that he’s just played in the World Cup . 60 mil for Konsa is absolute madness. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,245
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    LargeAddick said:
    stackitsteve said:
    Fee agreed with Arsenal, 50m rising to possible 60m 
    Villa losing a lot of players.
    Terrible summer for them.

    Rogers, Tielemans, Digne, Malen, Konsa gone. Martinez is also likely going and Watkins is apparently keen on a move to Saudi.

    Aston Villa reach the Champions league and win the Europa league last season and they lose several of their best players.
    Rodgers decides to go to Chelsea who didn't qualify for Europe this season after finishing 10th.

    What is the point of Brentford, Brighton, Bournemouth Palace, Newcastle and Villa etc trying to compete when Man united, City, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea are always going to unsettled and attract players from these clubs.
  • flyingkiwiDK
    flyingkiwiDK Posts: 5,802
    PWR

    is there a sell on fee? 
  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 4,176
    flyingkiwiDK said:
    PWR

    is there a sell on fee? 
    Should be a Solidarity/training fee- around £1.5m
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 21,380
    sammy391 said:
    flyingkiwiDK said:
    PWR

    is there a sell on fee? 
    Should be a Solidarity/training fee- around £1.5m
    Won’t be as it’s a within England transfer I think 
  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,144
    According to AI: 

    Under English FA and Premier League domestic transfer rules, a 5% solidarity contribution (£2.55 million) is deducted from the total £51 million fee to be distributed among the clubs that trained the player between ages 12 and 23
  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,670
    Always knew he would reach the very top
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 19,393
    EveshamAddick said:
    According to AI: 

    Under English FA and Premier League domestic transfer rules, a 5% solidarity contribution (£2.55 million) is deducted from the total £51 million fee to be distributed among the clubs that trained the player between ages 12 and 23
    Blimers !

    We might REALLY be able to buy JRS now ! 

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