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Post Match Views : Cheltenham vs Charlton | 8th August 2026 | League Cup

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  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,533
    The problem will be that this season is going to be 90% like the second half and 10% like the first half……
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 36,413
    edited August 8
    Good to see the ball on the floor a lot more - such a better team when the ball is not in the air for the strikers to fight for.

    Chalobah a cut above & notable mentions for Carey & McNamara. Back 4 steady but nothing special.....2nd half we resorted to type and just glad Cheltenham didn't get a 2nd when on top. 

    A bit disappointed with Grant. Thought he had more about him & really only showed what he could do with one run in the first half. Also dont think he is suited to being on the right. But then said last week & on the match thread that TC is wasted on the right. No idea how NJ is going to sort that problem. 

    And finally. One slice of humble pie being eaten  - I quite like the purple kit  !
  • TD_Addick
    TD_Addick Posts: 141
    Good performance, not bothered we took our foot off the pedal as that happens when you're 3-0 up. Good to see us playing football and players driving forward. 
  • i predicted a 3-2 win to us at half time with us hanging on in the end. 

    It was a bit better than that - not much - but a bit better.
  • Redskin
    Redskin Posts: 3,199
    Those people who were at the play-off final and are cunting Mannion off for today's performance seem to have forgotten those last 10/15 minutes when we were under the cosh, and he came out to claim the ball more than once giving us some respite, and time to compose ourselves.
    Kaminski isn't committed to us, and never has been. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 24,270
    Redskin said:
    Those people who were at the play-off final and are cunting Mannion off for today's performance seem to have forgotten those last 10/15 minutes when we were under the cosh, and he came out to claim the ball more than once giving us some respite, and time to compose ourselves.
    Kaminski isn't committed to us, and never has been. 
    I don't give a fuck how "committed" Mannion may well be compared to Kaminski, or what he did 15 months ago against a League 1 side for that matter.

    He didn't look great today, he made a number of errors late on last season, and had one good game against Watford. 

    Neither of them are great, but if we're using a 15 minute period of him catching long balls into the box as a benchmark, we have a problem 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,746
    sam3110 said:
    Redskin said:
    Those people who were at the play-off final and are cunting Mannion off for today's performance seem to have forgotten those last 10/15 minutes when we were under the cosh, and he came out to claim the ball more than once giving us some respite, and time to compose ourselves.
    Kaminski isn't committed to us, and never has been. 
    I don't give a fuck how "committed" Mannion may well be compared to Kaminski, or what he did 15 months ago against a League 1 side for that matter.

    He didn't look great today, he made a number of errors late on last season, and had one good game against Watford. 

    Neither of them are great, but if we're using a 15 minute period of him catching long balls into the box as a benchmark, we have a problem 
    Realistically, the next stage of "evolving" the squad (assuming we survive long enough, which I do believe we will) will definitely require upgrades to the goalkeeper role. Neither Mannion nor Kaminski are at "top Championship club" level. But neither are they so bad that we could prioritise them over all the much more immediate issues this summer.

    They adequate at best, but adequate will have to do.
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,947
    A very good first half performance then second half Cheltenham gave it a go, chasing lost causes and hitting balls in to see if something would drop for them, they didn't create too much, Mannion pulled off a decent stop with their one shot on target. It looks now like Nathan Jones has more options, one more bit of quality in midfield and a right wing back and he probably will be fairly happy, a few more to leave as well, I would have thought. 
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,427
    Good to see the ball on the floor a lot more - such a better team when the ball is not in the air for the strikers to fight for.

    Chalobah a cut above & notable mentions for Carey & McNamara. Back 4 steady but nothing special.....2nd half we resorted to type and just glad Cheltenham didn't get a 2nd when on top. 

    A bit disappointed with Grant. Thought he had more about him & really only showed what he could do with one run in the first half. Also dont think he is suited to being on the right. But then said last week & on the match thread that TC is wasted on the right. No idea how NJ is going to sort that problem. 

    And finally. One slice of humble pie being eaten  - I quite like the purple kit  !
    That's the second thread I've read today on which you say you're eating humble pie . 

    You ate all the humble pie 
    You ate all the humble pie 
    You constantly pessimistic person
    You constantly pessimistic person
    You ate all the humble pie !

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  • FinlandMatt
    FinlandMatt Posts: 51
    Between 20th-45th min we looked simply a class above Chalobah ran the midfield for us.

    Thought TC looked dangerous and Billy looks so assured at the back.

    A week to go until the league season starts and we avoided getting knocked out in the first round of the cup.

    Happy with that. Onwards and upwards 🔥
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 5,422
    First 15 took time to get into the game but once we did we looked excellent .
      Chalobah was different class first half along it has to said Coventry who got the overall MOM .. some good goals Godden , class Carey tidy finish and a super effort from Campbell who was also very unlucky when he hit the bar both chances created by Coventry .. yet again it was TC final ball today in at least 4/5 times that let him down .. if you look 
    at Alli one chance to create lovey cross right in Carey head …….At the back “ Billy “ we have a real star , and McNamara was very good . Jones still
    dont look happy in a 4 and Bell not a left back and in goal well Mannion performance today puts  an end to that debate 

    Mannion 4 
    McMamara 7
    Jones 6
    Billy 8
    Bell 6 
    Coventry 9 
    Chaloboh 8
    Campbell 7
    Carey 7
    Grant 6 never used him enough 
    Godden 7



  • gmantaxi
    gmantaxi Posts: 493
    Will take that won’t we ? Surely no one can complain about that …..
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,288
    Didn’t see the game, sounds encouraging, see the short highlights above, the run and pass from Chalobah to Carey was classy, looked bloody quick as well which I didn’t know he had in his locker. Was McNamara ok?, did TC play left or right, or did they mix it up a bit?.
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,699
    Good final top up for fitness. Good to see those getting their first goals of the season. Chalobah looks decent if staying fit. Time will tell if the new formation will work waith our players! 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,147
    Good game management by the team in the last 15 minutes where the passing was very good.
    Playing a league 2 side in the cup doesn't have much bearing on a championship season but there were many positives.
    I didn't expect the class act Chalobah to play 91 minutes but to see a midfielder who along with Carey, can run with the ball going forward was great to see.

    Carey with one goal, one assist and two good saves from their keeper reminded me of his best form of 25/26. 
    TC was good on either wing and Grant had some good runs in the middle of the park after a quiet start.

    Sterner tests too come but more minutes in the legs and to win a cup game is a bonus.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 5,601
    sam3110 said:
    Redskin said:
    Those people who were at the play-off final and are cunting Mannion off for today's performance seem to have forgotten those last 10/15 minutes when we were under the cosh, and he came out to claim the ball more than once giving us some respite, and time to compose ourselves.
    Kaminski isn't committed to us, and never has been. 
    I don't give a fuck how "committed" Mannion may well be compared to Kaminski, or what he did 15 months ago against a League 1 side for that matter.

    He didn't look great today, he made a number of errors late on last season, and had one good game against Watford. 

    Neither of them are great, but if we're using a 15 minute period of him catching long balls into the box as a benchmark, we have a problem 
    I think the only real issue with Mannion today was the fluffed ‘punch’ clearance where I suspect he was trying too hard to make amends. Otherwise (apart from the save) he didn’t have a huge amount to do. 

    But as others have said I suspect Jones still intends to start Kaminski and Mannion just gets the cup priority (for now). 

    I still prefer him to Kaminski. 
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 4,037
    First 15 took time to get into the game but once we did we looked excellent .
      Chalobah was different class first half along it has to said Coventry who got the overall MOM .. some good goals Godden , class Carey tidy finish and a super effort from Campbell who was also very unlucky when he hit the bar both chances created by Coventry .. yet again it was TC final ball today in at least 4/5 times that let him down .. if you look 
    at Alli one chance to create lovey cross right in Carey head …….At the back “ Billy “ we have a real star , and McNamara was very good . Jones still
    dont look happy in a 4 and Bell not a left back and in goal well Mannion performance today puts  an end to that debate 

    Mannion 4 
    McMamara 7
    Jones 6
    Billy 8
    Bell 6 
    Coventry 9 
    Chaloboh 8
    Campbell 7
    Carey 7
    Grant 6 never used him enough 
    Godden 7



    I respectively disagree, it wasn't Campbell being let down by crosses, there was no-one at the end of them. I don't know why you always have it in for him, but he was one of the best players on the pitch today and was everywhere, running his socks off. I hope he does stay and sign a new contract. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 86,827
    A game of four quarters; bad, very good, very bad, good.

    And a display to please everyone. 

    The optimists will have liked the three goals and that we surged forward in numbers. Chalobah was very good and the other debutantes also did well. Plenty to look forward too.

    The pessimists will have enjoyed the beginning of each half when we looked half asleep and could have been in trouble v a better side. Plenty to complain about.




  • Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch
    Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch Posts: 2,315
    edited August 9
    The standout team performances across pre season, and today, were the first half at Colchester and the first half today - the common factor appears to be Chalobah.

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  • Sword65pf said:
    Didn’t see the game, sounds encouraging, see the short highlights above, the run and pass from Chalobah to Carey was classy, looked bloody quick as well which I didn’t know he had in his locker. Was McNamara ok?, did TC play left or right, or did they mix it up a bit?.
    Campbell started on the right, then shifted to the left after about 30 minutes. And not long after he did,he scored!

    McNamara had a very solid debut.
  • Bangkokaddick
    Bangkokaddick Posts: 4,410
    At the game. In the first ten minutes we gave the ball away three times in dangerous positions with Mannion, Jones and I think Bell all at fault. That was concening as a Championship side would most likely have punished those errors. There wer a few more similar lapses later but after that initial ten minutes, we were excellent in that first half, Chalobah showing skills I haven't seen from a Charlton player in many a year.

    Pleased with the other newcomers as well, especially Billy, though Karlan only showed glimpses of what we know he can offer.

    The second half was a bit disappointing and shows fitness levels still aren't what they should be, but we finished the game professionally and forced the Cheltenham sub keeper into some good saves at the death.

    Promising, but the real stuff starts next week.
  • IR94
    IR94 Posts: 1,057
    Happy to see Sniffer dog score and what a finish, been so unlucky with injuries, buzzing for him.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,661
    If TC had the oerfect end product every time he gets in a promising position, we wiukd score 5 or more goals a game.

    the point is he gets into promising positions so often especially played as a left winger. I hope he and Grant can learn to influence the game from the right as we will be lucky to get a right sided specialist as dangerous
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,288
    Sword65pf said:
    Didn’t see the game, sounds encouraging, see the short highlights above, the run and pass from Chalobah to Carey was classy, looked bloody quick as well which I didn’t know he had in his locker. Was McNamara ok?, did TC play left or right, or did they mix it up a bit?.
    Campbell started on the right, then shifted to the left after about 30 minutes. And not long after he did,he scored!

    McNamara had a very solid debut.
    Thanks, was TC looking ok on the right? Are we going to have an issue with him and Grant playing in the same side?
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,661
    Both looked more effective from the left.TC didnt know what to do with the ball when he got past his man on the right, aimlessly wandered into the middle
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,793
    I’m happy to put the Mannion performance down to having a shit game, it happens. But them punches and kicks over a season would kill us. Just hope he’s better than that.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 21,112
    Only seen the 3 minute highlights but we looked eager to attack with pace, TC looked to be getting into good positions on the right and Grant nearly scored from that side too. Alli looked to have put in a good ball in at the end too that Carey nearly put away. Chalobah looked a cut above again. The defensive frailties mentioned here didn't get shown but I thought Mannion was weak for their goal. A nice performance to effectively round up preseason
  • Jints
    Jints Posts: 3,643
    sam3110 said:
    Redskin said:
    Those people who were at the play-off final and are cunting Mannion off for today's performance seem to have forgotten those last 10/15 minutes when we were under the cosh, and he came out to claim the ball more than once giving us some respite, and time to compose ourselves.
    Kaminski isn't committed to us, and never has been. 
    I don't give a fuck how "committed" Mannion may well be compared to Kaminski, or what he did 15 months ago against a League 1 side for that matter.

    He didn't look great today, he made a number of errors late on last season, and had one good game against Watford. 

    Neither of them are great, but if we're using a 15 minute period of him catching long balls into the box as a benchmark, we have a problem 
    I think the only real issue with Mannion today was the fluffed ‘punch’ clearance where I suspect he was trying too hard to make amends. Otherwise (apart from the save) he didn’t have a huge amount to do. 

    But as others have said I suspect Jones still intends to start Kaminski and Mannion just gets the cup priority (for now). 

    I still prefer him to Kaminski. 
    His distribution was dreadful, including at least one pass straight to them
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,661
    Bell and Jones both passed the ball directly to the opposition at least once as well