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MATCH THREAD: Spurs V Charlton Athletic: Carabao Cup (2): Wed 26 August 2026: 19:45 [+POST P37]

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 22,813
    edited August 27
    fenaddick said:
    follett said:
    I do find it a bit confusing the rationale is that we didn’t want to risk an injuries when we played arguably our strongest team against Cheltenham. 
    Did we have a game every 3/4 days for the next 3 weeks after Cheltenham?
    We’ve played a total of 2 league games. We’ve got 3 weeks of football and then most of them get 3 weeks off to recuperate. We make 5 subs every game so a fair chunk are having their mins managed anyway. 

    I’m not saying play your best team for 90, but we could have rested a couple (like Bell) and played the others for 55 / 35 split and still given some game time to the likes of Ouma, Knibbs etc. but they’d have benefited from getting their time in a more integrated team, not an 11 that had never played before. 

    Box to box midfielders like Declan Rice just did a 69 game season at the highest level. Frank Lampard once did a 72 game season. They shouldn’t need such full minutes protection at this stage of the season imo 
    Did you watch Rice at the end of the season and in the WC? He was hobbling like crazy and playing through injury. I don’t want our players having to do that. I’m sure the sports science team will have worked out how much load the players can take and the Spurs pitch is notorious for causing injury issues. I get why people were disappointed and understand it’s different watching from home but I totally understand the selection
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 30,103
    jose said:
    ...Don’t laugh too loud, but an away game at Leyton Orient is better authentic football fun than that incongruous Tottenham Hotspur ‘experience’ the type one might give as a one off present to somebody like a day’s scuba diving or a balloon flight.
    That's a very good description, Jose. I'm glad I did the Tottenham Hotspur experience, but can I have the balloon flight next year please?
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,685
    Simonsen said:
    Taking it seriously then. Fuck me. 

    Good luck to those lads and if we win, it probably ought to mean the Spurs manager should resign and not bother with football in future. 
    hI mate...thats exactly what we said when the team news came up on the train to WHL wanted to turn round and not bother...but i understand the reasons. however spurs were there for the taking and the score line flattened them in the end. 

    Some of the spurs fans after the game were going on about savo or whatever his name is, is the new messiah.They are a deluded bunch.
  • InspectorSands
    InspectorSands Posts: 5,271
    JohnBoyUK said:


    You should have gone Tottenham Hale.  I haven't used WHL or NP to get home in years.  Far far too many people and queues.



    I took your advice and that's what I did - perfect for a couple of beers at the briliant High Cross on the way to the ground. Thank you! 

    Left on the final whistle, 25-minute stomp to Tottenham Hale and five-minute queue to get into the station, but arrived at Liverpool Street at 10.30 and got to Woolwich at 11. Home 20 minutes later. 

    Strange old night, can see why NJ picked the team he did. Thought the stadium was amazing, though nothing could beat a weirdly agitated Tottenham fan shouting strange abuse at us ("vegan sausages! "you've got a bus pass!") over the divide. He then walked out after Jones's goal... anyhow, onwards. 
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,685
    Sorry but just as I really start to warm to NJ he goes and does this.

    Its a shit team and he is taking the piss out of everyone who has paid good money to go tonight.

    Imagine if you'd flown down from Scotland and saw Brooks was playing his first ever game

    Some changes fair enough but 10 is just taking the piss big time.
    Totally agree. Shocked when i saw that line up, I live the other side of basingstoke and stayed in london last night in fear of not catching the last train home, as i thought we would make a fist of it, match tickets, hospitality, train fares, accommodation over £200 quid wasted, And they wonder why only a few thousand turn up to some cup matches at home.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,496
    Even our strongest 11 would struggle to compete with a spurs line up like last night IMO. 
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,496
    highlight was seeing john fortune pre-game. 
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 3,644
    follett said:
    fenaddick said:
    follett said:
    I do find it a bit confusing the rationale is that we didn’t want to risk an injuries when we played arguably our strongest team against Cheltenham. 
    Did we have a game every 3/4 days for the next 3 weeks after Cheltenham?
    No but that’s more of a fitness concern than injury concern which is fine 
    Injury and fitness are inter linked, unfit and more likely to get injured. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 73,264
    A bit odd that they have 4 screens just playing live coverage of the game, and not the team lineups.
  • timken
    timken Posts: 1,149
    ciro9991 said:
    If anyone listened to Rodwell on talksport, then you’d know this was the plan, he mentioned there would be some debutants, and was essentially a free hit. There are KPI’s at the club, which is to not lose against lower league opposition, hence a stronger team against Cheltenham. 

    Should we have played a better team? Yes, but the league is more important. We got 2 injuries, to first team players. We’ve already got a small squad, and losing key players will affect us hugely.

    Ultimately, we were never going to win, and it was in London. I wish we put up more of a fight, but realistically, what were people expecting? 
    had to look up KPI for those interest it means Key Performance Indicators [how the fuck were we supposed to know that?]

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  • ciro9991
    ciro9991 Posts: 29
    timken said:
    ciro9991 said:
    If anyone listened to Rodwell on talksport, then you’d know this was the plan, he mentioned there would be some debutants, and was essentially a free hit. There are KPI’s at the club, which is to not lose against lower league opposition, hence a stronger team against Cheltenham. 

    Should we have played a better team? Yes, but the league is more important. We got 2 injuries, to first team players. We’ve already got a small squad, and losing key players will affect us hugely.

    Ultimately, we were never going to win, and it was in London. I wish we put up more of a fight, but realistically, what were people expecting? 
    had to look up KPI for those interest it means Key Performance Indicators [how the fuck were we supposed to know that?]
    Rodwell said it. On talksport. I’m sorry if you didn’t understand the meaning of KPI, but I can assure you, it’s a very widely used term. 
  • timken
    timken Posts: 1,149
    highlight was seeing john fortune pre-game. 
    I see his dad up my local gym regularly.big west ham fan
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,828
    ciro9991 said:
    If anyone listened to Rodwell on talksport, then you’d know this was the plan, he mentioned there would be some debutants, and was essentially a free hit. There are KPI’s at the club, which is to not lose against lower league opposition, hence a stronger team against Cheltenham. 

    Should we have played a better team? Yes, but the league is more important. We got 2 injuries, to first team players. We’ve already got a small squad, and losing key players will affect us hugely.

    Ultimately, we were never going to win, and it was in London. I wish we put up more of a fight, but realistically, what were people expecting? 
    To win?
    Spurs ended just above West Ham last season and have had a mare of a start to this season. They were there for the taking.
    It would have been nice to have a bit of ambition.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 59,324
    highlight was seeing john fortune pre-game. 
    Highlight was throwing around a football, which just about summed it up 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,486
    ciro9991 said:
    If anyone listened to Rodwell on talksport, then you’d know this was the plan, he mentioned there would be some debutants, and was essentially a free hit. There are KPI’s at the club, which is to not lose against lower league opposition, hence a stronger team against Cheltenham. 

    Should we have played a better team? Yes, but the league is more important. We got 2 injuries, to first team players. We’ve already got a small squad, and losing key players will affect us hugely.

    Ultimately, we were never going to win, and it was in London. I wish we put up more of a fight, but realistically, what were people expecting? 
    To win?
    Spurs ended just above West Ham last season and have had a mare of a start to this season. They were there for the taking.
    It would have been nice to have a bit of ambition.

    I do believe if we'd played the 1st XI and used 5 game changers from the bench we would've gone close but if you think we could've kept Savio AKA Savinho out you are deluded.
     2-1 or maybe 3-2 lost if we were on our game but playing out best team would've been detrimental for Saturday and the League games coming up.

    I had really bad vibes about this game and unlike so many just wasn't looking forward to it as we were going to put out a B squad and we would get hit for 5.
    (I mentioned 5 goals in the preview) 

    We were on too much of a high and like the roller coaster it likes to bring CAFC back to terra firma with a splash.
  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,732
    CAFCTrev said:
    The backlash is probably lessened because it was a relatively local game for the majority of that away end. But how would people feel if this was Man U away again or even worse Newcastle? You’ve travelled all the way up there, with all the expense that involves, only for NJ to effectively feed them the C team who would duly get tonked.
    It was a very expensive trip for me and Mrs TT. 2hrs drive to Taunton, train to Paddington, b&b nearby, drop stuff off, another hour to the ground, but stopped at Highbury for a drink.

    Awful place for the long walk to the ground, and a big hike up the stairs to our level.

    We aimed to get back to our Paddington b&b asap, and got there around 11.30pm! Madness that it took so long. Part of the walk back took us via Carbuncle Lane, a black void that Mrs TT said that we weren't going down. Two lads hesitated and took the plunge, so did we, then a few more followed behind us as there seemed no alternative. That was horrible, as it was impossible to see what was ahead, and there were lots of steps, that you needed to feel your way up and down.

    I have no problem with the team selection, perhaps Nathan told those we think are heading off, 'you're in the shop window, sell yourself to other clubs' and to our fringe players 'show me that I need to pick you'.

    Mwamba was my stand out, although Costello did well too. L Jones was his usual excellent self, with a couple of other reasonably performances considering the standard of opposition. 

    Just maybe the replacement CBs we now need could be an upgrade, although tbf Billy has been great so far.

    Onwards and upwards.
  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,732
    Stig said:
    What a dump that area is. They don't even try to hide it:

    I was walking behind you when you took that  :D
  • boggzy
    boggzy Posts: 3,849
    Well that went about as badly as it possibly could have
    After buzzing so much about the club after the West Ham victory, it's back to thinking about CAFC as a frustrating black cloud. Fields a team of reserves with a goalkeeper that was recently non-league in front of 6k travelling support (yes, I get why it was done, to avoid injuries, but I still think there could have been a happy medium). Basically a Spurs training excercise. Reserve player gets injured before game so the only first teamer that plays (who had been impressive in the first two games) gets horribly injured (along with another), and now we have to call off Rak Sakyi in order to find a centre-back pronto.

    You just couldn't write this stuff! The curse of CAFC!!
  • SteveACS
    SteveACS Posts: 758
    edited August 27
    I think it's tough on some of the players who (I think Airman said this) might have wanted to play at Tottenham in front of 50000 but were told they couldn't. 
    Who probably quickly changed their minds when they saw Collins being carried off on a stretcher...
  • Greenhithe
    Greenhithe Posts: 982
    My firms got a booth there - so I was in the posh bit with my lot. Free draught beer and wine. 3 course meal, half time samosas. Post match cheese board. It was amazing. Really enjoyable. Unbelievable gaff. But its not football and i wont do it again. 

    But then we had to go and lose and i had to sit amongst them lot  - just above our fans. Then didn't get home until 12.45 as my plan failed to go to Northumberland Park to Stratford.  Ended up getting to Dartford by midnight only to be told there was a rail replacement bus service. £65 in a cab home Grrrrrrr.

      


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  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 59,324
    Just remembered, anyone get train to WHL?

    That walk to the ground. WTF were those open NO DOOR toilets like on the pavement??? 

    Walking along with your missus and kids and there’s six banks of 4 blokes just standing there cock out openly pissing away. With hundreds of people walking past. 

    So bizarre. Never seen that before. 
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,828
    Just remembered, anyone get train to WHL?

    That walk to the ground. WTF were those open NO DOOR toilets like on the pavement??? 

    Walking along with your missus and kids and there’s six banks of 4 blokes just standing there cock out openly pissing away. With hundreds of people walking past. 

    So bizarre. Never seen that before. 
    A bit off thread but my boy recently went to China and he said public toilet stall has no door and is a squat toilet. The 
    Chinese will squat with their phone in one hand and a fag in the other.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,864
    edited August 27
    Supporting Charlton is like strolling around on a nice day, generally of the opinion that things, they could be better but, "hey ho!".  Then every so often but with some inevitabilty, having a large spikey thing rammed up your arse, out of nowhere!
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,525
    Have to remember that we did pretty well for 40 mins. Up til then we had the best chance and had found a bit of rhythm, for a scratch side. 
    Old man’s moan. The two young lads in the front row of the upper stand decided to stand throughout the match, meaning us old lags behind him (in a fan shape) had to follow, which is a mare when your knees are knackered.  
    Moan over.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,787
    Supporting Charlton is like strolling around on a nice day, generally of the opinion that things, they could be better but, "hey ho!".  Then every so often but with some inevitabilty, having a large spikey thing rammed up your arse, out of nowhere!
    People pay good money for that sort of experience, allegedly.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 22,449
    Just remembered, anyone get train to WHL?

    That walk to the ground. WTF were those open NO DOOR toilets like on the pavement??? 

    Walking along with your missus and kids and there’s six banks of 4 blokes just standing there cock out openly pissing away. With hundreds of people walking past. 

    So bizarre. Never seen that before. 
    I didn’t see them, I was busting for a piss by the time we got to WHL. Thankfully my mate needed to eat so dived into a cafe and had to convince them I was going to order something before crashing into the bog. One thing that amused me was the big thing made about the beer being filled from the bottom of the glass. Not only is it crappy Madri but once they filled the the glass, they then just poured it by hand into another one.
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 14,212
    Just remembered, anyone get train to WHL?

    That walk to the ground. WTF were those open NO DOOR toilets like on the pavement??? 

    Walking along with your missus and kids and there’s six banks of 4 blokes just standing there cock out openly pissing away. With hundreds of people walking past. 

    So bizarre. Never seen that before. 
    I didn’t see them, I was busting for a piss by the time we got to WHL. Thankfully my mate needed to eat so dived into a cafe and had to convince them I was going to order something before crashing into the bog. One thing that amused me was the big thing made about the beer being filled from the bottom of the glass. Not only is it crappy Madri but once they filled the the glass, they then just poured it by hand into another one.
    Sounds like a midfielder the Spuds would pay £50m for.

  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 5,662
    DDOUBLEE said:
    Koumetio, Burke and Collins all injured, NJ says that transfer targets will be reshaped, this better not have ruined JRS coming in otherwise I'm going to be fucking fuming 
    It didn’t that was JRS agent 
  • crookester
    crookester Posts: 1,679
    CAFCTrev said:

    Don't think it helped that pretty much none of the players we have songs for actually played 
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,685
    highlight was seeing john fortune pre-game. 
    Highlight was throwing around a football, which just about summed it up 

    Think I was the only one of our fans who never touched it.