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  • Funnily enough I had a Wimpy lunchtime albeit in Bexleyheath. Lovely.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 22,105
    edited August 31
    Crusty54 said:
    I suppose the symbolic one will be if/when MacDonalds goes, being the first one in the UK an'all.
    A new KFC is opening in the former Halifax bank in Powis Street.

    It looks like the former Wimpy in Hare Street which became a Star Express Grill has closed as well.

    I don't remember a Wimpy in Hare Street - corner of Thomas Street/Greens End, yes. Is the one you mention opposite the old Woolies? If so I remember that as a fish and chip/grill restaurant but not a Wimpy.

    That said, I haven't been to Woolwich town centre in 25 years!
  • BobK
    BobK Posts: 98
    I used to go to the Woolwich Wimpys in 1971 with my future wife before we went to the ABC pictures.

  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,676
    BobK said:
    I used to go to the Woolwich Wimpys in 1971 with my future wife before we went to the ABC pictures.

    I use to bunkin into the ABC. 
  • charlton4ever
    charlton4ever Posts: 1,967
    BobK said:
    I used to go to the Woolwich Wimpys in 1971 with my future wife before we went to the ABC pictures.

    I use to bunkin into the ABC. 
    Me too -  1 paid, went to the fire escape and opened the door for the rest of us, down the stairs and disperse !

    Loved the ABC. Saturday morning pictures!
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 3,654
    bobmunro said:
    Crusty54 said:
    I suppose the symbolic one will be if/when MacDonalds goes, being the first one in the UK an'all.
    A new KFC is opening in the former Halifax bank in Powis Street.

    It looks like the former Wimpy in Hare Street which became a Star Express Grill has closed as well.

    I don't remember a Wimpy in Hare Street - corner of Thomas Street/Greens End, yes. Is the one you mention opposite the old Woolies? If so I remember that as a fish and chip/grill restaurant but not a Wimpy.

    That said, I haven't been to Woolwich town centre in 25 years!
    I remember the one in Hare street, it must have opened around 1964, when I was a child, my mum preferred the Lyons tea room so remember being some times feeling put out.
  • charlton4ever
    charlton4ever Posts: 1,967
    Nearly opposite the one in Hare Street was an amazing pet fish store with banks of tanks - Aquarius ? 
  • ken from bexley
    ken from bexley Posts: 5,211
    Another venue that I would visit both in my schoolboy days, or when I worked at Woolwich for the publishers Morgan Grampian.
    Not been back to Woolwich for 10 years, a place that my parents shopped for furniture/ clothes, and myself for records, either at the RACS, or Down town records across the road from the current Wimpy.

    Must admit I used McDonald's, when it opened if I went out for lunch and went shopping for things.

    Used to go to the ABC on a Sunday, and would meet a few friends in there. 
    My mother loved the covered Market, last time I went there was 20 years ago, all very run down as was Woolwich which was sad to see. I travelled through Woolwich, every day to go to Plumstead from Charlton to go to school on the 53 bus.
    But like Cuffs and Garretts, another  time and a different world.  

  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 22,105
    msomerton said:
    bobmunro said:
    Crusty54 said:
    I suppose the symbolic one will be if/when MacDonalds goes, being the first one in the UK an'all.
    A new KFC is opening in the former Halifax bank in Powis Street.

    It looks like the former Wimpy in Hare Street which became a Star Express Grill has closed as well.

    I don't remember a Wimpy in Hare Street - corner of Thomas Street/Greens End, yes. Is the one you mention opposite the old Woolies? If so I remember that as a fish and chip/grill restaurant but not a Wimpy.

    That said, I haven't been to Woolwich town centre in 25 years!
    I remember the one in Hare street, it must have opened around 1964, when I was a child, my mum preferred the Lyons tea room so remember being some times feeling put out.

    I remember the Lyons tea room well. Green cups and saucers and leaf tea in a green pot! Also glass bowls of jelly with chunks of fruit in the jelly.

    Cuffs with the compressed air chutes sending money up to the office, Garretts, the Co-op departmental store with a cafeteria on the next to top floor (often used to have a plate of chips and beans in there for lunch when I was at school) and a silver service restaurant on the top floor.

    Simple days - but a great town back in the 60s/70s.
  • charlton4ever
    charlton4ever Posts: 1,967
    Lyons had a ceiling with a skylight/window that weirdly I can still see myself as a 6 year old staring up at fascinated for some reason. Can't remember what I did last week though!

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  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 1,603
    edited September 1
    Lyons had a ceiling with a skylight/window that weirdly I can still see myself as a 6 year old staring up at fascinated for some reason. Can't remember what I did last week though!
    probably broke in somewhere through a skylight/window using the expert knowledge you gained as a six year old!
  • h
    h Posts: 151
    Early 60’s I used to go to my mate’s parents flat above Halfords in Powis Street. His dad was the manager and he was the only kid I knew that had a brand new bike. He came to my birthday party and would only eat sugar sandwiches. 
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,843
     Wimpy grill, and a rum baba frothy coffee.. Millionaire food for 17/6p.   Fond memories.
    I preferred a bender.
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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,079
    iaitch said:
     Wimpy grill, and a rum baba frothy coffee.. Millionaire food for 17/6p.   Fond memories.
    I preferred a bender.
    Each to their own.
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,705
    Stayed in the travelodge there we'd night after the spurs game. Got to the arsenal at 23.15 and wasn't a pleasant walk to the hotel. Full of crap and full bins lying about the place and a ton of undesirables intimidating anyone who passed them. 

    What is happening to our city. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,079
    Stayed in the travelodge there we'd night after the spurs game. Got to the arsenal at 23.15 and wasn't a pleasant walk to the hotel. Full of crap and full bins lying about the place and a ton of undesirables intimidating anyone who passed them. 

    What is happening to our city. 

    Khan is an absolute fraud, and a disgusting individual.
  • I'm not going to get in to politics and am certainly no fan of Sadiq Khan, but as someone who has lived in Woolwich for more than half of my life now, I would suggest that its problems predate his appointment by many decades. Indeed I might go as far as to say it never really recovered from the closure of the Royal Arsenal. Having said that I have grown to love the place. A lot of that might simply be because I also love the entire city, and if I were to sell my flat I would never be able to afford to live in London again. 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 22,105
    edited September 1
    I'm not going to get in to politics and am certainly no fan of Sadiq Khan, but as someone who has lived in Woolwich for more than half of my life now, I would suggest that its problems predate his appointment by many decades. Indeed I might go as far as to say it never really recovered from the closure of the Royal Arsenal. Having said that I have grown to love the place. A lot of that might simply be because I also love the entire city, and if I were to sell my flat I would never be able to afford to live in London again. 
    Bloody Khan eh? I've never forgiven him for how he dealt with the Great Fire of London.

    I left the Woolwich area over 40 years ago and the inner city problems as described above already existed back then. Mid 70s onwards saw the major decline of Woolwich.

    But I still have very fond memories of the place growing up there in the 60s and early seventies.

  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,079
    bobmunro said:
    I'm not going to get in to politics and am certainly no fan of Sadiq Khan, but as someone who has lived in Woolwich for more than half of my life now, I would suggest that its problems predate his appointment by many decades. Indeed I might go as far as to say it never really recovered from the closure of the Royal Arsenal. Having said that I have grown to love the place. A lot of that might simply be because I also love the entire city, and if I were to sell my flat I would never be able to afford to live in London again. 
    Bloody Khan eh? I've never forgiven him for how he dealt with the Great Fire of London.

    I left the Woolwich area over 40 years ago and the inner city problems as described above already existed back then. Mid 70s onwards saw the major decline of Woolwich.

    But I still have very fond memories of the place growing up there in the 60s and early seventies.


    I would suggest the increase in crime in his term will include Woolwich.
    That aside, walking down Powis Street on a Thursday afternoon in March was an eye opener.

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  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,705
    edited September 1
    bobmunro said:
    I'm not going to get in to politics and am certainly no fan of Sadiq Khan, but as someone who has lived in Woolwich for more than half of my life now, I would suggest that its problems predate his appointment by many decades. Indeed I might go as far as to say it never really recovered from the closure of the Royal Arsenal. Having said that I have grown to love the place. A lot of that might simply be because I also love the entire city, and if I were to sell my flat I would never be able to afford to live in London again. 
    Bloody Khan eh? I've never forgiven him for how he dealt with the Great Fire of London.

    I left the Woolwich area over 40 years ago and the inner city problems as described above already existed back then. Mid 70s onwards saw the major decline of Woolwich.

    But I still have very fond memories of the place growing up there in the 60s and early seventies.


    I would suggest the increase in crime in his term will include Woolwich.
    That aside, walking down Powis Street on a Thursday afternoon in March was an eye opener.
    Walking down powys Street at 23.30 at night certainly was.. Dark dingy all sorts of scum ready to cherry pick anyone who didn't have their savvy about them. 

    Was going to stay there after the QPR game but will take the hit of a taxi home instead from Basingstoke station. 

    But hey ho it's safe. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,079
    bobmunro said:
    I'm not going to get in to politics and am certainly no fan of Sadiq Khan, but as someone who has lived in Woolwich for more than half of my life now, I would suggest that its problems predate his appointment by many decades. Indeed I might go as far as to say it never really recovered from the closure of the Royal Arsenal. Having said that I have grown to love the place. A lot of that might simply be because I also love the entire city, and if I were to sell my flat I would never be able to afford to live in London again. 
    Bloody Khan eh? I've never forgiven him for how he dealt with the Great Fire of London.

    I left the Woolwich area over 40 years ago and the inner city problems as described above already existed back then. Mid 70s onwards saw the major decline of Woolwich.

    But I still have very fond memories of the place growing up there in the 60s and early seventies.


    I would suggest the increase in crime in his term will include Woolwich.
    That aside, walking down Powis Street on a Thursday afternoon in March was an eye opener.
    Walking down powys Street at 23.30 at night certainly was.. Dark dingy all sorts of scum ready to cherry pick anyone who didn't have their savvy about them. 

    Was going to stay there after the QPR game but will take the hit of a taxi home instead from Basingstoke station. 

    But hey ho it's safe. 
    Better than taking a hit in Woolwich......
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 16,620
    Tottenham last week made Woolwich look like Dubai !!
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,705
    edited September 2
    Tottenham last week made Woolwich look like Dubai !!

    As I said what's happened to our once great city. 
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,829
    Known as the Dust hole in the 18th century Woolwich has always been a very rough part of london.
    The heritage centre in the Arsenal had some good displays but i think it's closed now.
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,387
    bobmunro said:
    I'm not going to get in to politics and am certainly no fan of Sadiq Khan, but as someone who has lived in Woolwich for more than half of my life now, I would suggest that its problems predate his appointment by many decades. Indeed I might go as far as to say it never really recovered from the closure of the Royal Arsenal. Having said that I have grown to love the place. A lot of that might simply be because I also love the entire city, and if I were to sell my flat I would never be able to afford to live in London again. 
    Bloody Khan eh? I've never forgiven him for how he dealt with the Great Fire of London.

    I left the Woolwich area over 40 years ago and the inner city problems as described above already existed back then. Mid 70s onwards saw the major decline of Woolwich.

    But I still have very fond memories of the place growing up there in the 60s and early seventies.


    I would suggest the increase in crime in his term will include Woolwich.
    That aside, walking down Powis Street on a Thursday afternoon in March was an eye opener.
    Do you have stats to show an increase in crime - I’ve read somewhere crime is significantly down in London over the last years.
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,676
    I am proud to say I am a Plumstead boy, and have witnessed its change. I say change and not decline because I think to say decline is to say 
    that the people who are now residents are somehow second class citizens.
    I believe Woolwich and Plumstead are working class areas and will always be working class. Something once again I am immensely proud of. 
    I go to Woolwich quite often and I don’t feel like any issues affect me. 
    Just because people might have a different heritage to me doesn’t make them a threat, we all want what is best for our family.
    I am retired working class, the majority of people I see in Woolwich are working class, long may it continue.
  • Diebythesword
    Diebythesword Posts: 1,047
    Meanwhile, in reality, Woolwich is rapidly beginning to gentrify and crime stats continues to go down in Sadiq khan’s London. 
  • FreshHaddock
    FreshHaddock Posts: 202
    edited September 2
    I say change and not decline because I think to say decline is to say  that the people who are now residents are somehow second class citizens.
    I get that. It's not what I meant at all. The people are what make the area.
    I just meant it in the sense that it feels like a bit of a neglected area today but then you imagine what it would have been like when places like Cuffes and the Lyons Tea House were in full swing. I'm not sure if it is still there, but the Old Mill used to have that huge map of all the pubs in Woolwich and the first time I saw that I was amazed.

    Of course people don't use pubs as much as they used to but can you imagine how busy and bustling the area would have been to sustain that many boozers? 

    Edit: Of course it's worth noting that Plumstead is now apparently the 2nd best neighbourhood in London. :wink:
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,387
    I am proud to say I am a Plumstead boy, and have witnessed its change. I say change and not decline because I think to say decline is to say 
    that the people who are now residents are somehow second class citizens.
    I believe Woolwich and Plumstead are working class areas and will always be working class. Something once again I am immensely proud of. 
    I go to Woolwich quite often and I don’t feel like any issues affect me. 
    Just because people might have a different heritage to me doesn’t make them a threat, we all want what is best for our family.
    I am retired working class, the majority of people I see in Woolwich are working class, long may it continue.
    I live in Plumstead and love it. Been here since 2005 and it has changed since then but not badly. Like you I am from the working class and proud of it.
    Woolwich is changing as well and I’m there frequently. I’ve never felt worried about walking around there at any time of the day or night. 
    The area has become a bit of the poster boy for the far right as a bad place to be. But it’s not.