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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,482
    fenaddick said:
    Listening on the radio but is it the case where the ref could of easily said FFS lads what are you doing? And book them both for being idiots. 
    No, Foden’s kicked out and put his studs in Fernandes’ stomach. It’s a red all day long 
    Fernandes made a meal of it...

    Please tell me of any professional player you know in 2026 that doesn't do what Fernandez does after getting a boot in the gut.
    In the ideal football world Fernandez gets a red for kicking Foden when on the ground,  so they both walk and we have 10 v 10.

    Richards is a blue nose and Roy Keane never sees a problem with violence on the field !

    Violence? Do me a favour.
    Petulance yes, violent Foden definitely wasn’t.
    Fernandez on the other hand???

    I was thinking about violence with Roy Keane more generally like the GBH assault he did to Alf-Inge Haaland.
    Just as his boy scores.

    Personally I wouldn't want studs pushed into my stomach or be kicked on the ground but you see it differently.
    Game of opinions.

     
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 8,750
    It can only be that we’ve been deceived by the angle, right? Was the first defender’s foot just playing him on?
    And there we have it.
  • fenaddick said:
    On the replays it looked like Enzo (middle) and Haaland (near side) were both offside when the ball left the City player's boot.

    Even if the cross took a deflection of the United defender the pair were still offside on the original cross!
    I think Dorgu must have been playing Haaland onside, it’s the only explanation I can think of 
    One thing that's guaranteed:

    If that was us at Old Trafford the flag would have stood.
  • There we go - it was Dorgu’s foot.
  • Gary Neville crying about the decision is always worth a chuckle 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 16,328
    Explain how Enzo, 5 yards offside doesn't interfere by going for the ball? Impacts both the defender and the goalkeeper by moving towards the ball. Mindless. 
  • Explain how Enzo, 5 yards offside doesn't interfere by going for the ball? Impacts both the defender and the goalkeeper by moving towards the ball. Mindless. 
    You sound more bitter than Gary Neville. 
  • Explain how Enzo, 5 yards offside doesn't interfere by going for the ball? Impacts both the defender and the goalkeeper by moving towards the ball. Mindless. 
    This is the part i don't get. We know Dorgu's foot played Haaland onside fair enough, but Enzo literally dived head first for the cross which made Martinez challenge him, so how is he not interfering with play and therefore offside?
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 8,750
    Gary Neville crying about the decision is always worth a chuckle 
    I was about to say that, although I hate that they always seem to put Neville on Man U games and Carragher on Liverpool games, I do feel Neville at least tries to show some impartiality, but for that Man City goal he just couldn’t help himself.

    They should absolutely stop it though. Neville should never be near a Man U game and Carragher should never be near any game, let alone Liverpool games where his bias is excruciating.
  • O-Randy-Hunt
    O-Randy-Hunt Posts: 11,875
    Explain how Enzo, 5 yards offside doesn't interfere by going for the ball? Impacts both the defender and the goalkeeper by moving towards the ball. Mindless. 
    I wouldn't worry mate. City won't be a threat to your mob this season.

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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,553
    City playing very, very well. Could have had a couple more easily since the goal.
  • I think City have bought well this summer. Anderson, Enzo and Ndiaye all adding something.

    May still be a battle with Arsenal 
  • On a side note though, how have Man U not tried to strengthen their defence all summer?

    They spent 50m on a Chelsea reserve midfielder (Santos) but bought no defenders. I don't think a single one of their back 4 today would even get on the Arsenal bench.
  • Carrick appointment feeling like it’s mirroring Jackson’s for us. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,482
    edited September 13
    Enzo is interfering with the defender with his full length dive in an offside position so despite Haaland being onside the goal should've been disallowed.

    The rules are clear and they have just put the rules on the screen.
  • I think City have bought well this summer. Anderson, Enzo and Ndiaye all adding something.

    May still be a battle with Arsenal 
    For a combined 300m you would hope they add something........
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 53,239
    Gary Neville crying about the decision is always worth a chuckle 
    Except he wasn't even so much as complaining.

    To me it's similar to TC v QPR.
    You cannot tell if players are on or off if the camera is not in line (if it's a close call).
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 19,000
    Enzo is such a see you next tuesday.
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 8,750
    Christ on a bike. That Enzo Fernández is a proper prick isn’t he?
    Maybe for every Manchester Derby they should send both Fernandes/Fernández off at the beginning so people don’t have to put up with their cheating scummy tactics or look at their wanky rat faces.
  • Gary Neville crying about the decision is always worth a chuckle 
    Except he wasn't even so much as complaining.

    To me it's similar to TC v QPR.
    You cannot tell if players are on or off if the camera is not in line (if it's a close call).
    He was sulking like me after a Millwall win 

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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 33,376
    I have no idea how Enzo Fernandez isn’t deemed offside based on the official wording that they’ve just shown
  • Bruno Fernandes is looking spent.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,482
    edited September 13
    See the difference with City being organised and defending on the edge of their area and only dropping to their six yard box when it goes out for a corner or if a united player can get down the flanks.

    A master class in how to defend with 10 or 11 players.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 29,503
    se9addick said:
    I have no idea how Enzo Fernandez isn’t deemed offside based on the official wording that they’ve just shown
    There's a case to say he's offside under all four of those points.
  • From the refs - nothing to do with the man u players boot for the decision as Harland is onside when the ball is played by the city player... Apparently Enzo though offside was not a factor as he did not influence the defenders or the goalie... 
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 8,750
    If that goal means both Man U and Arsenal fans are crying about it tonight, I’m ok with it.
  • From the refs - nothing to do with the man u players boot for the decision as Harland is onside when the ball is played by the city player... Apparently Enzo though offside was not a factor as he did not influence the defenders or the goalie... 
    Which is surely incorrect because him being there made Martinez go with him. Incredible that it's been allowed to stand but i hate Man U so fuck em.
  • From the refs - nothing to do with the man u players boot for the decision as Harland is onside when the ball is played by the city player... Apparently Enzo though offside was not a factor as he did not influence the defenders or the goalie... 
    Which is surely incorrect because him being there made Martinez go with him. Incredible that it's been allowed to stand but i hate Man U so fuck em.
    I ain't no fan of man u but I don't understand these officials. I don't think they know about football and how it's played. If their not they surely should be talking and learning from coaches and players of what it is to play football so they would know that in this case Enzo would of course be effecting the other players around him.
  • If that goal means both Man U and Arsenal fans are crying about it tonight, I’m ok with it.
    Me too. United have had so many dodgy decisions go their way over the years it is great for a change if one goes against them.

    Lets welcome United fans to the universe we have had to put up with for years .
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,553
    Isn’t the issue that the goal was given as offside as the linesman flagged thinking Harland was offside. It was subsequently found that Haarland wasn’t offside. Therefore the linesman had made an error so the goal was given. Do we really then want to go back and ref the game again to find another reason to rule the goal out? How far back into the move do you go? What if everything else was ok but a Man Utd player was fouled on the halfway line?

    I don’t like VAR, I’m happy to accept the officials are sometimes wrong and make wrong decisions. I’d rather live with that than VAR intervene excessively.