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  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 18,922
    What used to be referred to as an “Indian summer”.
    Which generally used to follow a poor English summer full of rain and low temperatures. To get one following a "good" English summer (not sure I would class 6 heatwaves, 75% of the country in drought and 4 months without rain in some pparts as "good" But that's the term used) is apparently very rare.
  • Hex
    Hex Posts: 1,997
    What used to be referred to as an “Indian summer”.
    Which generally used to follow a poor English summer full of rain and low temperatures. To get one following a "good" English summer (not sure I would class 6 heatwaves, 75% of the country in drought and 4 months without rain in some pparts as "good" But that's the term used) is apparently very rare.
    An “Indian Summer” is generally regarded as a warmer than average dry spell after the first frost.
  • What used to be referred to as an “Indian summer”.
    Which generally used to follow a poor English summer full of rain and low temperatures. To get one following a "good" English summer (not sure I would class 6 heatwaves, 75% of the country in drought and 4 months without rain in some pparts as "good" But that's the term used) is apparently very rare.
    Unprecedented weather this year, but the longest dry period recorded in any part of the UK was 62 consecutive dry days at Wisley in Surrey - not great, but not 4 months.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 18,922
    What used to be referred to as an “Indian summer”.
    Which generally used to follow a poor English summer full of rain and low temperatures. To get one following a "good" English summer (not sure I would class 6 heatwaves, 75% of the country in drought and 4 months without rain in some pparts as "good" But that's the term used) is apparently very rare.
    Unprecedented weather this year, but the longest dry period recorded in any part of the UK was 62 consecutive dry days at Wisley in Surrey - not great, but not 4 months.
    New Eltham doesn't have a measuring station but we didn't get a single drop after that massive thunderstorm in the first week of April all the way through until the 2nd week of August. Watching on the online radar every time there was a shower it passed a few miles to the south of us. Aware the official data isn't measured in that way but the Met Office talk about this effect in their explanations around location.

    I put up a new 630 liter water but system 2 days after that storm in April! it proceeded to be pointless from then on. Some might even blame me for the drought by means of a Jinx!
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,768
    In the west country and the weather is fantastic. Shorts and T shirt... Not a cloud in the sky at 08.30. Lovely. 
  • Hex
    Hex Posts: 1,997
    edited September 24
    What used to be referred to as an “Indian summer”.
    Which generally used to follow a poor English summer full of rain and low temperatures. To get one following a "good" English summer (not sure I would class 6 heatwaves, 75% of the country in drought and 4 months without rain in some pparts as "good" But that's the term used) is apparently very rare.
    Unprecedented weather this year, but the longest dry period recorded in any part of the UK was 62 consecutive dry days at Wisley in Surrey - not great, but not 4 months.
    New Eltham doesn't have a measuring station but we didn't get a single drop after that massive thunderstorm in the first week of April all the way through until the 2nd week of August. Watching on the online radar every time there was a shower it passed a few miles to the south of us. Aware the official data isn't measured in that way but the Met Office talk about this effect in their explanations around location.

    I put up a new 630 liter water but system 2 days after that storm in April! it proceeded to be pointless from then on. Some might even blame me for the drought by means of a Jinx!
    It's also worth noting that the radar works at a level somewhat above the ground.  When very dry conditions exist close to the ground the radar may show a heavy shower passing over you but the rain doesn't reach the ground as happened with these showers over Devon and Cornwall in August. 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,933
    I think some people are getting "weather" and "climate" muddled up again
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,768
    Some people are assuming that some people are getting muddled up  when they aren't.. Their just discussing today's weather. 
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 18,922
    Ol' Chipolata rn. 


    I just took a picture of me face and its defo nt my confused face

    I just took a picture of me face, and it's defo not my confused face!!!!! 


    Niche reference I know...
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,768
    352 or 442.

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  • Niche reference I know...
    Proper rubber dingy rapids tier film
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,933
    UK gives Global Environment Agency £330 million to tackle climate change 

    https://www.energylivenews.com/2026/09/25/uk-gives-global-environment-agency-330-million-to-tackle-climate-change/ 
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,872
    What used to be referred to as an “Indian summer”.
    Which generally used to follow a poor English summer full of rain and low temperatures. To get one following a "good" English summer (not sure I would class 6 heatwaves, 75% of the country in drought and 4 months without rain in some pparts as "good" But that's the term used) is apparently very rare.
    Unprecedented weather this year, but the longest dry period recorded in any part of the UK was 62 consecutive dry days at Wisley in Surrey - not great, but not 4 months.
    New Eltham doesn't have a measuring station but we didn't get a single drop after that massive thunderstorm in the first week of April all the way through until the 2nd week of August. Watching on the online radar every time there was a shower it passed a few miles to the south of us. Aware the official data isn't measured in that way but the Met Office talk about this effect in their explanations around location.

    I put up a new 630 liter water but system 2 days after that storm in April! it proceeded to be pointless from then on. Some might even blame me for the drought by means of a Jinx!
    New Eltham didnt get a single drop of rain in the 1st 2 weeks of June.
    Must of been the only place round here then.
    There was more rain in the 1st 2 weeks of June than of March, April and May put together.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,565
    For those of you cynics who were saying 'it's summer, what do you expect?' 



    How do you explain this?

    This is October. This is not southern Europe. 

    I don't know what's more shocking: 38 degrees this May, 43° this July, or 29° this October.

    What I do know is this is not summer, so please climate change deniers, explain how we have above average summer temperatures in autumn?
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 10,316
    For those of you cynics who were saying 'it's summer, what do you expect?' 



    How do you explain this?

    This is October. This is not southern Europe. 

    I don't know what's more shocking: 38 degrees this May, 43° this July, or 29° this October.

    What I do know is this is not summer, so please climate change deniers, explain how we have above average summer temperatures in autumn?
    Across Spain, a major torrential‑rainfall event on 3–4 October 2026 produced exceptional totals:
    • Barcelona: More than 200 litres/m² in a single day — the highest since records began in 1883

    • Vilassar de Mar (Catalonia): 288 litres/m² in 24 hours — an extraordinary value noted by Meteocat and highlighted internationally

    • Can Bruixa (Barcelona): 213 litres/m², also a historic record for the station

    • Raval (Barcelona): 193 litres/m², another all‑time station record

    These figures are far above typical Spanish daily rainfall extremes and qualify as record‑breaking for the affected regions.

  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 10,316
    It is getting harder for the climate change deniers to justify their claims, though no doubt some will. 

    I've just been sitting in the garden and it's still very warm for early October. 

    Local pumpkin farms have had a terrible harvest and will be unable to open for 'pick your own' this year.

    In Sussex, South East Water is extending the hosepipe ban further, so that even those with exemptions will be unable to use their hosepipes.

    None of this is 'normal' though it is becoming the 'new normal'. If we don't get much rain this winter we are really going to be in trouble next year. Perhaps this year's extra strong El Nino will bring us some much needed rain soon.





  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 30,173
    It is getting harder for the climate change deniers to justify their claims, though no doubt some will. 

    I've just been sitting in the garden and it's still very warm for early October. 

    Local pumpkin farms have had a terrible harvest and will be unable to open for 'pick your own' this year.

    In Sussex, South East Water is extending the hosepipe ban further, so that even those with exemptions will be unable to use their hosepipes.

    None of this is 'normal' though it is becoming the 'new normal'. If we don't get much rain this winter we are really going to be in trouble next year. Perhaps this year's extra strong El Nino will bring us some much needed rain soon.





    Sorry to hear that Emmy, is that because of the low rainfall?
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 10,316
    Stig said:ME14addick said:
    It is getting harder for the climate change deniers to justify their claims, though no doubt some will. 

    I've just been sitting in the garden and it's still very warm for early October. 

    Local pumpkin farms have had a terrible harvest and will be unable to open for 'pick your own' this year.

    In Sussex, South East Water is extending the hosepipe ban further, so that even those with exemptions will be unable to use their hosepipes.

    None of this is 'normal' though it is becoming the 'new normal'. If we don't get much rain this winter we are really going to be in trouble next year. Perhaps this year's extra strong El Nino will bring us some much needed rain soon.





    Sorry to hear that Emmy, is that because of the low rainfall?
    Yes, it was on the local news this morning.

    Two farms in Kent have cancelled their pick-your-own pumpkin events after dry weather hit this year's crops.

    Broadditch Farm in Southfleet would normally have harvested 25,000 to 30,000 pumpkins in autumn, but this year expects to have around 1,500.

    Farmer John Harris said the pumpkins had not got going this year because of the lack of moisture, adding: "We're suffering. We've only harvested a tenth of what we should have done."



    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm1dldv9qeero

  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,768
    edited October 5
    Got me washing done today and dried lovely.... Or was it yesterday I might be muddled up.. 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 24,893
    Got me washing done today and dried lovely.... 
    Same here 
    Never did need a pumpkin 

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  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,768
    Got me washing done today and dried lovely.... 
    Same here 
    Never did need a pumpkin 

    Apparently cider growers have had a bumper harvest. A grower said that on the radio the other day. But BBC hey. 
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 10,316
    Got me washing done today and dried lovely.... 
    Same here 
    Never did need a pumpkin 

    Apparently cider growers have had a bumper harvest. A grower said that on the radio the other day. But BBC hey. 
    I don't know where you got your information but that isn't true. A simple Internet search revealed the following:
    • Consecutive heatwaves and droughts following a wet spring left orchards in regions like the South West heavily parched, causing up to 50% of fruit to drop early before ripening. [1, 2, 3]
    • Massive Deficits: Many regional producers report catastrophic yield drops, with some farms expecting as little as 10% of their usual production or experiencing their worst harvest in decades. [1, 2, 3]
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,768
    Got me washing done today and dried lovely.... 
    Same here 
    Never did need a pumpkin 

    Apparently cider growers have had a bumper harvest. A grower said that on the radio the other day. But BBC hey. 
    I don't know where you got your information but that isn't true. A simple Internet search revealed the following:
    • Consecutive heatwaves and droughts following a wet spring left orchards in regions like the South West heavily parched, causing up to 50% of fruit to drop early before ripening. [1, 2, 3]
    Massive Deficits: Many regional producers report catastrophic yield drops, with some farms expecting as little as 10% of their usual production or experiencing their worst harvest in decades. [1, 2, 3]

    Got my information from someone who produces it and has his own cider business. But what would he know. And he was on the radio taking about it. 
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,565
    edited October 5
    I normally pick about 300 apples from our trees during August -September.
    In October I normally get about 8-10 pumpkins.

    This year:
    Apples: 0
    Pumpkins: 0

    Also, we've got a bit of a mosquito invasion, something I have never known this far north.

    This is like an arrow in the wall as you're walking past the house.

    Will anyone take it as a warning? People like me, yes, but no-one of any importance. They just continue to blah, blah, blah; f***ING immigration, f***ING cost of living, blah blah.(Consequences of climate change, you f***ING idiots).

    Don't look up!
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 30,173
    According to the NFU, apple production this year met the average for the past five years. In fact, because of the high levels of sunshine, crops were typically ready two weeks earlier than usual and apples tended to be sweeter and more tasty than they normally are. This sounds like good news until you read on and find out that this was only achieved by watering them more than usual: "Prolonged summer heatwaves and regional drought forced fruit growers to work overtime to keep orchards watered, severely stretching local water licensing and abstraction capabilities". If they are going to keep that up on an annual basis they will become more heavily reliant on water supplies which just won't be there. 
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 10,316
    The apples on the tree in my garden are very small this year, as they haven't been watered. 

    If crops are having to be watered to get to a decent size, there will be extra costs involved, which will be passed to the consumer. 
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 10,316
    Barcelona has again had torrential rain, causing devastating floods, this is not normal.
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,802
    Barcelona has again had torrential rain, causing devastating floods, this is not normal.
    It was devastating. The trains are still out and the clear up of mud, plus the flooded houses and schools is incredibly expensive. And you see the idiots saying fossil fuels are cheaper (they aren't even at basic level before climate change kicks in).
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 30,173
    Hope you and yours are all OK, Ken!
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,768
    Stig said:
    According to the NFU, apple production this year met the average for the past five years. In fact, because of the high levels of sunshine, crops were typically ready two weeks earlier than usual and apples tended to be sweeter and more tasty than they normally are. This sounds like good news until you read on and find out that this was only achieved by watering them more than usual: "Prolonged summer heatwaves and regional drought forced fruit growers to work overtime to keep orchards watered, severely stretching local water licensing and abstraction capabilities". If they are going to keep that up on an annual basis they will become more heavily reliant on water supplies which just won't be there. 

    Oh so they were happy then. Who would have guessed it. Should have come on here and got their advice on how to run family business from the all knowing know alls,  who know nothing about it. 

    Silly me.