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Oliver Skipp is an Addick: Season long loan from Leicester City

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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 19,168
    edited October 10
    Passing stats per 90:


  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 19,568
    Find some of the low scores on the rating thread just really odd
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,968
    Panic acquisition when it was clear we wasn’t going to see Chalobah until after Christmas I suspect.
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 5,692
    Was excellent today alongside Coventry they are forming a very good pairing .. made lot of good tackles today in and around our box .. 
  • Watching him it looks like he thinks he’s faster than he is. A couple of times he was asking for balls to be played in front of him which he was no way near reaching 
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 31,411
    Sword65pf said:
    Panic acquisition when it was clear we wasn’t going to see Chalobah until after Christmas I suspect.
    Exactly 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,968
    Was excellent today alongside Coventry they are forming a very good pairing .. made lot of good tackles today in and around our box .. 
    very easily pleased aren’t you?
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 20,178
    edited October 10
    He’s a 6 out of 10 player. Does nothing wrong but nothing to warm the cockles 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,968
    edited October 10
    shirty5 said:
    He’s a 6 out of 10 player. Does nothing wrong but nothing to warm the cockles 
    Yes agree with this. Both him and Coventry need a Chalobah type next to them to be more effective. But I don’t see them being a good pair long term, which is a worry because I think that’s what we are going to get.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 19,168
    edited October 10
    To use an old sailor's expression, I think he might be a Jonah.

    (That's also gonna be my new nickname for him).

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  • shirty5 said:
    He’s a 6 out of 10 player. Does nothing wrong but nothing to warm the cockles 

    This is probably fair.  Today he was a 4 or 5 though imo.  Dreadful.  Went hiding from the ball on a couple of occasions.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,973
    Was excellent today alongside Coventry they are forming a very good pairing .. made lot of good tackles today in and around our box .. 
    I truly believe that is one of the worse midfield pivots in the league. Great they offer you running and the basics and slowing the tempo of the game when needed but there is zero pace strength passing ball progression ability to play on the half turn or in tight areas. 

    They would look better next to someone with the complete opposite traits but not with each other so many key skills that they don’t offer when combined 
  • Was excellent today alongside Coventry they are forming a very good pairing .. made lot of good tackles today in and around our box .. 
    I truly believe that is one of the worse midfield pivots in the league. Great they offer you running and the basics and slowing the tempo of the game when needed but there is zero pace strength passing ball progression ability to play on the half turn or in tight areas. 

    They would look better next to someone with the complete opposite traits but not with each other so many key skills that they don’t offer when combined 
    It’s the same problem we had with Cov and dob
  • Diebythesword
    Diebythesword Posts: 1,067
    Is good technically but is very slow and his demeanour isn’t very all action like we need. Can see why in a bad team like Leicester he’d be a lightning rod for criticism. 
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,637
    He drops deep, picks up ball from Jones then passes it to either full backs, really exciting movement ☹️
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,655
    He's like a lot of his colleagues, bang average.
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 5,102
    He adds nothing to the team 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 33,433
    Sword65pf said:
    shirty5 said:
    He’s a 6 out of 10 player. Does nothing wrong but nothing to warm the cockles 
    Yes agree with this. Both him and Coventry need a Chalobah type next to them to be more effective. But I don’t see them being a good pair long term, which is a worry because I think that’s what we are going to get.
    This is basically the key to our season. Skipp or Cov are serviceable players at this level but together, and without a Chalobah type player, it’s not a great situation for us. 

    Not a whole lot we can do until January. 
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,334
    Playing him and Coventry in the same side isnt great, both do similar jobs and neither like going over the halfway line.

    Both lack creativity, Skipp hasn't been bad but not sure getting rid of Docherty and replacing with Skipp and Ouma was brilliant business 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,968
    Playing him and Coventry in the same side isnt great, both do similar jobs and neither like going over the halfway line.

    Both lack creativity, Skipp hasn't been bad but not sure getting rid of Docherty and replacing with Skipp and Ouma was brilliant business 
    Skipp isn’t a replacement for Doc, we decided to move on from Doc and then Chalobah got injured ( we didn’t see that coming!!, then gambled on Ouma, none of these scenarios are working out.

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  • IR94
    IR94 Posts: 1,086
    haven't won a game since he joined
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,973
    IR94 said:
    haven't won a game since he joined
    Think it’s more we haven’t won a game since Chalobah got injured. Not only a brilliant player but elevates everyone around him as well
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 18,100
    In the words of my not-quite-teenage daughter, “I mean, I guess it’s fine” (no one can damn with feint praise quite like a pubescent girl who thinks she’s better than your shit). 

    Or, to borrow a nickname from
    the past, he’s a bit Captain Cleanshorts.

    That’s maybe a bit harsh, he does get stuck in a bit more than Matt Holland used to, but (having never seen him play before) I thought from the description of his time at Spurs we’d be getting kind of George Dobson who could play a bit more. Most independent observers seemed to rate him a good signing for us too. However, I find I’m not really seeing what he offers so far. 

    He does run around, although I’m not sure it’s always with great purpose or in the right direction, and he’s better technically than Doc was. However, apart from that one lovely through ball to TC vs QPR for the “offside”, his better passing isn’t particularly helping us gain more control of games and I think we’ve lost something defensively because I don’t think he’s as aggressive, or positionally aware as Doc.

    That’s not to say I think we should have kept Doc, but Coventry has improved this year, imo, yet the 2026 midfield of Skipp and Cov looks no better than 2025 Cov and Doc.

    It’s not helped, of course, that we are trying to play a system in which the no. 10 is probably that most pivotal position but without a quality and natural fit for that role. That probably also needs to be addressed with a bit of back to basics thinking tactically to find the best balance with the squad available.

    Either way, certainly, Chalobah comes straight back in as soon as fit, and for my money that should be with Coventry who has been better than Skipp.

    I do wonder if him once being bought for £20 million means I’m judging him a bit harshly, but I all I can say if he was ever truly worth that the his form has gone off a cliff. 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 18,100
    For those that like these sorts or things. Larger sample size for Doc, but not a huge amount between them, per 90, statistically although quite a contrast bet their respective heat maps. So far, at least. 













  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,822
    Better hope he can find a higher top speed
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,640
    I don’t think Skipp is the problem, I don’t think Coventry is the problem. But Skipp and Coventry is the problem. And we don’t have a solution without Chalobah being fit 

    Actually think Skipp has looked quite good so far but he’s too similar to Coventry so it just doesn’t work
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 33,433
    IR94 said:
    haven't won a game since he joined
    Think it’s more we haven’t won a game since Chalobah got injured. Not only a brilliant player but elevates everyone around him as well
    It’s why I think, if we genuinely have the ~£4M or £5M intended for JRS available, I’d rather spend it on a more-often-fit-Chalobah-type player. I genuinely think that would be better for us than upgrading in other (admittedly lacking) positions.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 8,095
    The truth is Skipp and Coventry are Foley and Crofts 2.0. 
  • Bod
    Bod Posts: 410
    Pivot
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,789
    I don’t mind Skipp but don’t see how he’s much of an upgrade on either Dobbo or Doc. I’m just relieved we didn’t pay £20M for him!