I am going to say it!! Yes I am, Nathan Jones......................
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He didnt address any of the glaring issues and that's a problem for him or anyone else who comes in. I'm sure that was a budgetary decision, but that midfield is a huge issue.Callumcafc said:
We spent a bit over a million this summer on a squad that stayed up on the penultimate day of the season. No one should be shocked that we’ve run into bad form again so quick.aso914 said:
He built the squad.Callumcafc said:Look there are some mitigating circumstances in that our squad is pretty crap too. But Jones isn’t doing himself any favours right now either.
This 3-4-3 isn’t getting the best out of TC and that’s the only way we’re going to win games at this moment in time.1 -
We have one in Nkeng but he doesn't even put him on the bench!NabySarr said:Got shafted in the summer, we so needed a right sided player, whether that’s a wing back or winger. Without it how can he set this team up?We just need to stay up and he’s by far the best chance we’ve got of doing that0 -
The money was there, the rumoured amount that they were willing to spend on JRS shows that.Croydon said:
He didnt address any of the glaring issues and that's a problem for him or anyone else who comes in. I'm sure that was a budgetary decision, but that midfield is a huge issue.Callumcafc said:
We spent a bit over a million this summer on a squad that stayed up on the penultimate day of the season. No one should be shocked that we’ve run into bad form again so quick.aso914 said:
He built the squad.Callumcafc said:Look there are some mitigating circumstances in that our squad is pretty crap too. But Jones isn’t doing himself any favours right now either.
This 3-4-3 isn’t getting the best out of TC and that’s the only way we’re going to win games at this moment in time.They completely failed in recruitment since we’ve been back in the champ3 -
I mean he's tried to change it quite a lot this season. We've played about 5 different formations and all sorts of combinations of players. He's very willing to try new thingsRadostanradical said:The arrogance of the man means we cant change. He would rather be sacked than proved wrong. I hope I am wrong and NJ is the true football messiah but I doubt I am as per usural.5 -
Another manager will get different results either for better or worse. That’s just how football works.The question is whether the gamble at this stage is worth it. I’m leaning toward the it would be camp2
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You can play different players with different tactics.Fumbluff said:Yes squad is really poor
Yes Jones is really poor
You can’t change the squad till next year, whatcha gonna do?
Pretty sure a decent manager would have set up today to attack & actually test the goalkeeper.
Watford's first clean sheet. Let in 9 goals over the last 2 games. We went there as if they were Real Madrid.
I'm not yet In the Jones Out camp because better the devil you know & be careful what you wish for still haunt me after getting rid of Jacko et al.
But it wont be long.1 -
I have a feeling that money was only available for JRS because Gavin Carter thought it would get the fans on side. If it was available for any other player it would have been spent once the JRS deal fell throughAberystwythAddick said:
The money was there, the rumoured amount that they were willing to spend on JRS shows that.Croydon said:
He didnt address any of the glaring issues and that's a problem for him or anyone else who comes in. I'm sure that was a budgetary decision, but that midfield is a huge issue.Callumcafc said:
We spent a bit over a million this summer on a squad that stayed up on the penultimate day of the season. No one should be shocked that we’ve run into bad form again so quick.aso914 said:
He built the squad.Callumcafc said:Look there are some mitigating circumstances in that our squad is pretty crap too. But Jones isn’t doing himself any favours right now either.
This 3-4-3 isn’t getting the best out of TC and that’s the only way we’re going to win games at this moment in time.They completely failed in recruitment since we’ve been back in the champ2 -
It was very clear that he wanted too. He wanted Rak-Sakyi and Holsgrove, but ended up with Alli, Nkeng, Skipp, Ouma and ChalobahCroydon said:
He didnt address any of the glaring issues and that's a problem for him or anyone else who comes in. I'm sure that was a budgetary decision, but that midfield is a huge issue.Callumcafc said:
We spent a bit over a million this summer on a squad that stayed up on the penultimate day of the season. No one should be shocked that we’ve run into bad form again so quick.aso914 said:
He built the squad.Callumcafc said:Look there are some mitigating circumstances in that our squad is pretty crap too. But Jones isn’t doing himself any favours right now either.
This 3-4-3 isn’t getting the best out of TC and that’s the only way we’re going to win games at this moment in time.4 -
For someone who is not defending him. You are doing a great job of defending him. Jones out. But it is not going to happen.FishCostaFortune said:
Based on what? We could be bottom of the table with no wins and -12 goal difference.oohaahmortimer said:
Be hard pushed for anyone to do any worse as wellFishCostaFortune said:Team with one of the lowest budgets in the league play like team with one of the lowest budgets in the league.
Not saying Jones tactics or management are helping, but who seriously thinks anyone is going to really do any better with what we have?
Again not defending Jones but we have to face up to the reality that our squad, for this level, is so so poor.Thats what the budget we have has given us.I honestly don’t see anyone coming in and being able to change that.0 -
'We've hardly had any budget'Doesn't help that he put the majority of our budget into even more defenders, which was our strength last season.2
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Strength of course being relative because they weren’t that good eitherSELR_addicks said:'We've hardly had any budget'Doesn't help that he put the majority of our budget into even more defenders, which was our strength last season.0 -
SELR_addicks said:'We've hardly had any budget'Doesn't help that he put the majority of our budget into even more defenders, which was our strength last season.Yes because we were able to be so reliant on Left sided Defenders last season... All we've done in Defence is replace Gillesphey with Koumieto / McNamara in to replace Clarke, and gotten Mesik in to support Bell / Edwards which was clearly one of our biggest weaknesses last season, and was one of the most important areas we needed to focus on4
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ForeverAddickted said:SELR_addicks said:'We've hardly had any budget'Doesn't help that he put the majority of our budget into even more defenders, which was our strength last season.Yes because we were able to be so reliant on Left sided Defenders last season... All we've done in Defence is replace Gillesphey with Koumieto / McNamara in to replace Clarke, and gotten Mesik in to support Bell / Edwards which was clearly one of our biggest weaknesses last season, and was one of the most important areas we needed to focus on
And Bindon.0 -
Same cycle every season under Jones3
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SELR_addicks said:
And Bindon.ForeverAddickted said:SELR_addicks said:'We've hardly had any budget'Doesn't help that he put the majority of our budget into even more defenders, which was our strength last season.Yes because we were able to be so reliant on Left sided Defenders last season... All we've done in Defence is replace Gillesphey with Koumieto / McNamara in to replace Clarke, and gotten Mesik in to support Bell / Edwards which was clearly one of our biggest weaknesses last season, and was one of the most important areas we needed to focus onTo replace Sichenje / Burke... Each player we've brought in defensively has been as cover, or to replace someoneRather than just doing it for shits and giggles2 -
I’m not defending him, I wouldn’t care if they sacked him tonight.DennisBooth said:
For someone who is not defending him. You are doing a great job of defending him. Jones out. But it is not going to happen.FishCostaFortune said:
Based on what? We could be bottom of the table with no wins and -12 goal difference.oohaahmortimer said:
Be hard pushed for anyone to do any worse as wellFishCostaFortune said:Team with one of the lowest budgets in the league play like team with one of the lowest budgets in the league.
Not saying Jones tactics or management are helping, but who seriously thinks anyone is going to really do any better with what we have?
Again not defending Jones but we have to face up to the reality that our squad, for this level, is so so poor.Thats what the budget we have has given us.I honestly don’t see anyone coming in and being able to change that.
But I’ve also got the ability to look past the person and realise that our issues are far deeper than him.
Shame others just seem to kid themselves that everything would all of a sudden be different/better.
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Exactly. Remove Jones and we still won’t have a midfield capable of progressing the ball, and we still won’t have anyone of the right hand side that’s any good. The manager isn’t the problem hereFishCostaFortune said:
I’m not defending him, I wouldn’t care if they sacked him tonight.DennisBooth said:
For someone who is not defending him. You are doing a great job of defending him. Jones out. But it is not going to happen.FishCostaFortune said:
Based on what? We could be bottom of the table with no wins and -12 goal difference.oohaahmortimer said:
Be hard pushed for anyone to do any worse as wellFishCostaFortune said:Team with one of the lowest budgets in the league play like team with one of the lowest budgets in the league.
Not saying Jones tactics or management are helping, but who seriously thinks anyone is going to really do any better with what we have?
Again not defending Jones but we have to face up to the reality that our squad, for this level, is so so poor.Thats what the budget we have has given us.I honestly don’t see anyone coming in and being able to change that.
But I’ve also got the ability to look past the person and realise that our issues are far deeper than him.
Shame others just seem to kid themselves that everything would all of a sudden be different/better.3 -
This is the first time I have been on the Jones out club.If we keep him, we are going down.The worst a new manager can do is take us down, so it is a zero risk appointment.His recruitment is awful.We have managed to assemble two Lesgue One squads in the two seasons in the Championship.We got away with it last season. Ain’t gonna happen again8
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Who made the decision on transfers?NabySarr said:
Exactly. Remove Jones and we still won’t have a midfield capable of progressing the ball, and we still won’t have anyone of the right hand side that’s any good. The manager isn’t the problem hereFishCostaFortune said:
I’m not defending him, I wouldn’t care if they sacked him tonight.DennisBooth said:
For someone who is not defending him. You are doing a great job of defending him. Jones out. But it is not going to happen.FishCostaFortune said:
Based on what? We could be bottom of the table with no wins and -12 goal difference.oohaahmortimer said:
Be hard pushed for anyone to do any worse as wellFishCostaFortune said:Team with one of the lowest budgets in the league play like team with one of the lowest budgets in the league.
Not saying Jones tactics or management are helping, but who seriously thinks anyone is going to really do any better with what we have?
Again not defending Jones but we have to face up to the reality that our squad, for this level, is so so poor.Thats what the budget we have has given us.I honestly don’t see anyone coming in and being able to change that.
But I’ve also got the ability to look past the person and realise that our issues are far deeper than him.
Shame others just seem to kid themselves that everything would all of a sudden be different/better.1 -
It’s blatantly obvious that Jones wanted to address both of those problems this summer, but he wasn’t backed to do itAberystwythAddick said:
Who made the decision on transfers?NabySarr said:
Exactly. Remove Jones and we still won’t have a midfield capable of progressing the ball, and we still won’t have anyone of the right hand side that’s any good. The manager isn’t the problem hereFishCostaFortune said:
I’m not defending him, I wouldn’t care if they sacked him tonight.DennisBooth said:
For someone who is not defending him. You are doing a great job of defending him. Jones out. But it is not going to happen.FishCostaFortune said:
Based on what? We could be bottom of the table with no wins and -12 goal difference.oohaahmortimer said:
Be hard pushed for anyone to do any worse as wellFishCostaFortune said:Team with one of the lowest budgets in the league play like team with one of the lowest budgets in the league.
Not saying Jones tactics or management are helping, but who seriously thinks anyone is going to really do any better with what we have?
Again not defending Jones but we have to face up to the reality that our squad, for this level, is so so poor.Thats what the budget we have has given us.I honestly don’t see anyone coming in and being able to change that.
But I’ve also got the ability to look past the person and realise that our issues are far deeper than him.
Shame others just seem to kid themselves that everything would all of a sudden be different/better.6 -
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NabySarr said:
Exactly. Remove Jones and we still won’t have a midfield capable of progressing the ball, and we still won’t have anyone of the right hand side that’s any good. The manager isn’t the problem hereFishCostaFortune said:
I’m not defending him, I wouldn’t care if they sacked him tonight.DennisBooth said:
For someone who is not defending him. You are doing a great job of defending him. Jones out. But it is not going to happen.FishCostaFortune said:
Based on what? We could be bottom of the table with no wins and -12 goal difference.oohaahmortimer said:
Be hard pushed for anyone to do any worse as wellFishCostaFortune said:Team with one of the lowest budgets in the league play like team with one of the lowest budgets in the league.
Not saying Jones tactics or management are helping, but who seriously thinks anyone is going to really do any better with what we have?
Again not defending Jones but we have to face up to the reality that our squad, for this level, is so so poor.Thats what the budget we have has given us.I honestly don’t see anyone coming in and being able to change that.
But I’ve also got the ability to look past the person and realise that our issues are far deeper than him.
Shame others just seem to kid themselves that everything would all of a sudden be different/better.
I think your abit deluded if you don’t think the manager is the problem1 -
Where do you think we should finish with the budget and squad we have?FAVADDICK said:NabySarr said:
Exactly. Remove Jones and we still won’t have a midfield capable of progressing the ball, and we still won’t have anyone of the right hand side that’s any good. The manager isn’t the problem hereFishCostaFortune said:
I’m not defending him, I wouldn’t care if they sacked him tonight.DennisBooth said:
For someone who is not defending him. You are doing a great job of defending him. Jones out. But it is not going to happen.FishCostaFortune said:
Based on what? We could be bottom of the table with no wins and -12 goal difference.oohaahmortimer said:
Be hard pushed for anyone to do any worse as wellFishCostaFortune said:Team with one of the lowest budgets in the league play like team with one of the lowest budgets in the league.
Not saying Jones tactics or management are helping, but who seriously thinks anyone is going to really do any better with what we have?
Again not defending Jones but we have to face up to the reality that our squad, for this level, is so so poor.Thats what the budget we have has given us.I honestly don’t see anyone coming in and being able to change that.
But I’ve also got the ability to look past the person and realise that our issues are far deeper than him.
Shame others just seem to kid themselves that everything would all of a sudden be different/better.
I think your abit deluded if you don’t think the manager is the problem3 -
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Jones in. He's not been backed by the owners, he cannot work miracles. No one can do better with this squad and this backing than him.10 -
I think we did some good business Mesik, Koumetio, Okonkwo and Chalobah have all been good. A couple have been passable but we are so bad at buying attackers thank fuck for sparrows lane.0
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Seeing a lot of Jones out. Who do people think we can attract that’s a better manager than Jones? Only suggestion I’ve seen is Scott Parker which is laughableWe are not an attractive proposition, we have one of the worst squads and lowest budgets in the league. Do you really think there’s any managers out there that would be better and actually want to join?1
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I think you’re more deluded if you think being 16th with this squad and budget is a sackable offence. What did people expect this season to be like?FAVADDICK said:NabySarr said:
Exactly. Remove Jones and we still won’t have a midfield capable of progressing the ball, and we still won’t have anyone of the right hand side that’s any good. The manager isn’t the problem hereFishCostaFortune said:
I’m not defending him, I wouldn’t care if they sacked him tonight.DennisBooth said:
For someone who is not defending him. You are doing a great job of defending him. Jones out. But it is not going to happen.FishCostaFortune said:
Based on what? We could be bottom of the table with no wins and -12 goal difference.oohaahmortimer said:
Be hard pushed for anyone to do any worse as wellFishCostaFortune said:Team with one of the lowest budgets in the league play like team with one of the lowest budgets in the league.
Not saying Jones tactics or management are helping, but who seriously thinks anyone is going to really do any better with what we have?
Again not defending Jones but we have to face up to the reality that our squad, for this level, is so so poor.Thats what the budget we have has given us.I honestly don’t see anyone coming in and being able to change that.
But I’ve also got the ability to look past the person and realise that our issues are far deeper than him.
Shame others just seem to kid themselves that everything would all of a sudden be different/better.
I think your abit deluded if you don’t think the manager is the problem3 -
I thought the rumour was that Jones was being backed by the board. Unfortunately, first Galbraith and then Holsgrove allegedly turned us down because Jones’s style of football wouldn’t have suited them. If that’s true, it tells you everything about the problem we have. We desperately need creative players who can get us playing progressive football, yet we’re potentially putting them off before they’ve even walked through the door. What’s the point of backing a manager in the transfer market if his style of play is making the very players we need think twice about joining us?5
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Don’t know about you but I expected Better than last seasonNabySarr said:
I think you’re more deluded if you think being 16th with this squad and budget is a sackable offence. What did people expect this season to be like?FAVADDICK said:NabySarr said:
Exactly. Remove Jones and we still won’t have a midfield capable of progressing the ball, and we still won’t have anyone of the right hand side that’s any good. The manager isn’t the problem hereFishCostaFortune said:
I’m not defending him, I wouldn’t care if they sacked him tonight.DennisBooth said:
For someone who is not defending him. You are doing a great job of defending him. Jones out. But it is not going to happen.FishCostaFortune said:
Based on what? We could be bottom of the table with no wins and -12 goal difference.oohaahmortimer said:
Be hard pushed for anyone to do any worse as wellFishCostaFortune said:Team with one of the lowest budgets in the league play like team with one of the lowest budgets in the league.
Not saying Jones tactics or management are helping, but who seriously thinks anyone is going to really do any better with what we have?
Again not defending Jones but we have to face up to the reality that our squad, for this level, is so so poor.Thats what the budget we have has given us.I honestly don’t see anyone coming in and being able to change that.
But I’ve also got the ability to look past the person and realise that our issues are far deeper than him.
Shame others just seem to kid themselves that everything would all of a sudden be different/better.
I think your abit deluded if you don’t think the manager is the problem2 -
MbickDamoNorthStand said:Croydon said:He won't make Christmas at this rate
We can't afford to fire him anyway. Simple as that.
Who is gonna pay off his contract?0 -
We’re sliding down the table after every game.NabySarr said:
I think you’re more deluded if you think being 16th with this squad and budget is a sackable offence. What did people expect this season to be like?FAVADDICK said:NabySarr said:
Exactly. Remove Jones and we still won’t have a midfield capable of progressing the ball, and we still won’t have anyone of the right hand side that’s any good. The manager isn’t the problem hereFishCostaFortune said:
I’m not defending him, I wouldn’t care if they sacked him tonight.DennisBooth said:
For someone who is not defending him. You are doing a great job of defending him. Jones out. But it is not going to happen.FishCostaFortune said:
Based on what? We could be bottom of the table with no wins and -12 goal difference.oohaahmortimer said:
Be hard pushed for anyone to do any worse as wellFishCostaFortune said:Team with one of the lowest budgets in the league play like team with one of the lowest budgets in the league.
Not saying Jones tactics or management are helping, but who seriously thinks anyone is going to really do any better with what we have?
Again not defending Jones but we have to face up to the reality that our squad, for this level, is so so poor.Thats what the budget we have has given us.I honestly don’t see anyone coming in and being able to change that.
But I’ve also got the ability to look past the person and realise that our issues are far deeper than him.
Shame others just seem to kid themselves that everything would all of a sudden be different/better.
I think your abit deluded if you don’t think the manager is the problem0
