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***Sonny Carey signs a three year deal***

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  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,794
    If Carey had playmaking ability as well he wouldn’t be playing for Charlton. Only Geldhardt mehmeti Azaz James Twine have more goals from midfield than he does and he plays in the 2nd worse attacking side in the league 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 17,848
    I actually don't have too much issue with the shooting, in the moment it's frustrating but as @elbiglad says it's part of his threat. What I find frustrating is when he counters but doesn't look up at all and just runs straight into defenders, that's so poor
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,330
    He's not going to win a prize for highest football intelligence and awareness. 


    Oh, apart from the 2025/26 Charlton no 10 role prize and even then he may lose out to Berry
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,330
    Or Sichenje if his supporters bribe someone to get his name on the poll
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,413
    fenaddick said:
    I actually don't have too much issue with the shooting, in the moment it's frustrating but as @elbiglad says it's part of his threat. What I find frustrating is when he counters but doesn't look up at all and just runs straight into defenders, that's so poor
    It’s counter attacks where he needs to improve. That’s where he loses the ball or shoots when he shouldn’t. When we have settled possession he usually makes the right choices and shoots when he gets space but I think the speed of a counter attack makes it harder to make the right decision as you have less thinking time 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,692
    For me he’s one of the first names on the team sheet, he’s far from perfect but he does something different,has the knack of arriving in and around the box, takes risks and they have come off enough to gain valuable points, not a bad starting point for someone I think will get better. 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,413
    Thought it was worth shouting out on here. I don’t think he had a long throw in when he joined us, so clearly something he’s been working on this season and now in the last few games has been trusted to use it in games 

    Don’t think his are quite as good or long as Edwards’ long throws, but credit to him for probably putting in the work after training to work on them and add something else to his game 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,692
    NabySarr said:
    Thought it was worth shouting out on here. I don’t think he had a long throw in when he joined us, so clearly something he’s been working on this season and now in the last few games has been trusted to use it in games 

    Don’t think his are quite as good or long as Edwards’ long throws, but credit to him for probably putting in the work after training to work on them and add something else to his game 
    I can’t quite decide if the value is him taking the long throw which isn’t really a boomer!!, or have him on the edge of the box ready to shoot, I think the latter personally, but obviously NJ thinks differently.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,413
    Sword65pf said:
    NabySarr said:
    Thought it was worth shouting out on here. I don’t think he had a long throw in when he joined us, so clearly something he’s been working on this season and now in the last few games has been trusted to use it in games 

    Don’t think his are quite as good or long as Edwards’ long throws, but credit to him for probably putting in the work after training to work on them and add something else to his game 
    I can’t quite decide if the value is him taking the long throw which isn’t really a boomer!!, or have him on the edge of the box ready to shoot, I think the latter personally, but obviously NJ thinks differently.
    I think in an ideal world Clarke would take them all, but I think we must be concerned that he will injure himself if he adds launching long throw ins into the box to his already high workload at wing back 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,692
    NabySarr said:
    Sword65pf said:
    NabySarr said:
    Thought it was worth shouting out on here. I don’t think he had a long throw in when he joined us, so clearly something he’s been working on this season and now in the last few games has been trusted to use it in games 

    Don’t think his are quite as good or long as Edwards’ long throws, but credit to him for probably putting in the work after training to work on them and add something else to his game 
    I can’t quite decide if the value is him taking the long throw which isn’t really a boomer!!, or have him on the edge of the box ready to shoot, I think the latter personally, but obviously NJ thinks differently.
    I think in an ideal world Clarke would take them all, but I think we must be concerned that he will injure himself if he adds launching long throw ins into the box to his already high workload at wing back 
    What’s Alfie may doing now?😂didn’t he try him at long throws?

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  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,330
    Shortest long throws ever
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,301
    Shortest long throws ever
    Or are they the longest short throws ever?
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,330
    Nope, not that long
  • EastTerrace
    EastTerrace Posts: 4,021
    Thought he was anonymous again today, Docherty was in midfield by himself.

  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 99,464
    Briston got it spot on during the Match Thread, if he was better, we wouldnt have him for very long.
    Has his limitations, where he can keep the ball for a bit too long, but if he can work on that over the summer, and learns when to pick the right pass, then he'll be some player at this level... As Jones said after Southampton, its his assists that have probably let him down this season.
  • Thought he was anonymous again today, Docherty was in midfield by himself.

    But he has now mastered the "Arsenal" in-swinging corner to near perfection and he put over a couple of really good ones today, including the one Ramsay hit the crossbar from. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 17,848
    Thought he was anonymous again today, Docherty was in midfield by himself.

    But he has now mastered the "Arsenal" in-swinging corner to near perfection and he put over a couple of really good ones today, including the one Ramsay hit the crossbar from. 
    This and his long throws suggest he puts in the time after training to work on things. If he can sort out his decision making in counter attacks he’ll be a serious player 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,719
    fenaddick said:
    Thought he was anonymous again today, Docherty was in midfield by himself.

    But he has now mastered the "Arsenal" in-swinging corner to near perfection and he put over a couple of really good ones today, including the one Ramsay hit the crossbar from. 
    This and his long throws suggest he puts in the time after training to work on things. If he can sort out his decision making in counter attacks he’ll be a serious player 
    If we use the logic some do with TC, then Carey should have stopped improving 3 years ago when he scored 3 times in the Championship in 37 appearances.

    Fortunately in the real world players can improve between their early and mid 20s.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,133
    If we use the logic some do with TC, then Carey should have had plenty of moans and groans and booing when he didn’t get subbed. 
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,794
    Thought he was anonymous again today, Docherty was in midfield by himself.

    Think that’s too light on Docherty. The entire midfield dropped stinkers McLean Slimane and Maghoma wiped the absolute floor with all of them. When you’re losing or drawing against a side you have a decent chance of getting something from they’re the worse midfield in the league bar Wednesday 

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  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 13,354
    His shot at the death (that hit JRC but was going wide anyway) sums up the difference in quality between us and a lot of the sides in this division. He had time, he had space, he had to do better. 
  • Diebythesword
    Diebythesword Posts: 733
    Needs to push on next season and I feel like teams have done their homework on him now, which is why we don’t see him affect games much any longer. Could definitely do more defensively and maybe take riskier passes. 
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,924
    Regardless of what he did today, still think he’ll hit double figures for the season.

    Will be interesting to see whether it’s him or Kelman, that finishes as our top scorer?
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,794
    Croydon said:
    His shot at the death (that hit JRC but was going wide anyway) sums up the difference in quality between us and a lot of the sides in this division. He had time, he had space, he had to do better. 
    He did but on the other hand you can say every single one of his goals bar the Sheffield Wednesday goal not a lot of midfielders would score at this level. No player hits the back of the net every time 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,719
    No doubt he can improve, as any player can, but it’s harsh to criticise his shooting or composure in front of goal - if he got it right consistently in every game he’d be scoring 15+ rather than the 8 he has scored.

    I doubt there are many central midfielders who’ve done that at this level in recent years.

    If we get the ball to him often enough in shooting positions I think he’s just as much as a threat as he was earlier this season, but our attacking play and being in possession isn’t our strength, it’s not something we do well every game.

    No reason why he can’t get double figures by the end of the season and get a similar number next season.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 17,848
    Thought he had a shocker today. Slow to move the ball on, refusing to shoot, next to no effort pressing and barely jogging over to take set pieces in the last 10 minutes. At one point he was telling Fullah how to press but completely lost his own man and Fullah bailed him out. The most disappointing thing for me was that he looked disinterested 80% of the time
  • Bostonaddick
    Bostonaddick Posts: 963
    He didn’t have a good game today but let’s be honest, given our attacking struggles, we would be deep into the relegation zone without his scoring.  Our three best players were all poor today.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 18,054
    I'm a big fan of his don't get me wrong. He's very good at what he does and his goals have been key for us. But he is a fairly limited player. He's good at popping up on the edge of the box and getting shots away and good at break away runs and shots. But as soon as he is expected to look up and make a decision other than to shoot you can see the speed of thought isn't there and then the ability to pick the pass is also just not there. He's a great option but next year I would want a different type of player to compete with him. Maybe Knibbs is that player?
  • TomCAFC
    TomCAFC Posts: 53
    I’m a big fan of Carey, he was off it today but the energy and physicality he brings are important. Definitely a real player there and I think he could go on to be really key in the next few years. He definitely needs to work on his decision making though.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,794
    Problem is when he’s not playing well like today you’re never going to take off the 1 player you know can do something out of nothing.