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+++ Charlton complete Thomas Kaminski signing +++

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  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 5,481
    Mannion is definitely better than Kaminski and given the chance, will continue to improve.
    Kaminski will only get worse and cost us more goals/games if we stick with him.
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 23,172
    superclive98 said:
    Mannion is definitely better than Kaminski and given the chance, will continue to improve.
    Kaminski will only get worse and cost us more goals/games if we stick with him.
    Mannion is definitely not the answer - too error prone. Neither should be No 1.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,565
    superclive98 said:
    Mannion is definitely better than Kaminski and given the chance, will continue to improve.
    Kaminski will only get worse and cost us more goals/games if we stick with him.
    Mannion is 28 doubt he’s classified as someone who can develop unlike the whole reason we brought in brooks who is 24.

    The Mannion/Kaminski debate is basically deciding what is better out of 2 poor options. We’re basically waiting until Kaminski contract expires or we find someone silly enough to take him off us and then we will upgrade. Don’t feel safe with either in goal 


  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 5,481
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    superclive98 said:
    Mannion is definitely better than Kaminski and given the chance, will continue to improve.
    Kaminski will only get worse and cost us more goals/games if we stick with him.
    Mannion is definitely not the answer - too error prone. Neither should be No 1.
    I'm not saying that Mannion is definitely the answer, although, given a proper chance, he might be.
    I am saying though that he is definitely better than Kaminski, who certainly isn't the answer.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 21,112
    Crispywood said:
    superclive98 said:
    Mannion is definitely better than Kaminski and given the chance, will continue to improve.
    Kaminski will only get worse and cost us more goals/games if we stick with him.
    Mannion is 28 doubt he’s classified as someone who can develop unlike the whole reason we brought in brooks who is 24.

    The Mannion/Kaminski debate is basically deciding what is better out of 2 poor options. We’re basically waiting until Kaminski contract expires or we find someone silly enough to take him off us and then we will upgrade. Don’t feel safe with either in goal 


    Mannion's deal expires next summer, Kaminski the one after. Next season is either a great chance for Brooks to get some game time or to replace Kaminski as No 1
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,565
    superclive98 said:
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    superclive98 said:
    Mannion is definitely better than Kaminski and given the chance, will continue to improve.
    Kaminski will only get worse and cost us more goals/games if we stick with him.
    Mannion is definitely not the answer - too error prone. Neither should be No 1.
    I'm not saying that Mannion is definitely the answer, although, given a proper chance, he might be.
    I am saying though that he is definitely better than Kaminski, who certainly isn't the answer.
    Mannion played 9 games last season, errors for the goals at Wednesday and Bristol City and I’d argue a proper championship No.1 could have done better for the Wrexham and Norwich goals although not as clear cut. Costing a goal 1 in every 3 games is abysmal. 

    Kaminski equally has made some howlers but it’s the thing when one drops a stinker it makes the other keeper look so much better than they actually are 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 24,270
    superclive98 said:
    Mannion is definitely better than Kaminski and given the chance, will continue to improve.
    Kaminski will only get worse and cost us more goals/games if we stick with him.
    He's not "definitely better" he had one great game against Watford and then dropped 2 clangers in a row in a crucial part of the season. They're both not quite good enough in reality, but Kaminski was the number 1 choice at the start of the season when we were a lot better at the back and ended up contributing to many clean sheets. He also gets a slightly unfair rap because he's a high earner for us, though if you took his wage and compared it to the wider championship he's still in the lower half of earners when it comes to keepers
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 24,270
    Oh and everyone talks about Mannion like he's some teenage sensation, he's 28, not 22, there isn't a huge amount of growth coming from him as a player
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 5,481
    sam3110 said:
    Oh and everyone talks about Mannion like he's some teenage sensation, he's 28, not 22, there isn't a huge amount of growth coming from him as a player
    He's a 28 year with relatively few games under his belt. He can still improve and given the chance, he will.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 21,112
    superclive98 said:
    sam3110 said:
    Oh and everyone talks about Mannion like he's some teenage sensation, he's 28, not 22, there isn't a huge amount of growth coming from him as a player
    He's a 28 year with relatively few games under his belt. He can still improve and given the chance, he will.
    He's played over 100 senior games! He definitely can improve but not to the levels some seem to think, he looks pretty close to his ceiling to me

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  • Walkingred
    Walkingred Posts: 138
    fenaddick said:
    Crispywood said:
    superclive98 said:
    Mannion is definitely better than Kaminski and given the chance, will continue to improve.
    Kaminski will only get worse and cost us more goals/games if we stick with him.
    Mannion is 28 doubt he’s classified as someone who can develop unlike the whole reason we brought in brooks who is 24.

    The Mannion/Kaminski debate is basically deciding what is better out of 2 poor options. We’re basically waiting until Kaminski contract expires or we find someone silly enough to take him off us and then we will upgrade. Don’t feel safe with either in goal 


    Mannion's deal expires next summer, Kaminski the one after. Next season is either a great chance for Brooks to get some game time or to replace Kaminski as No 1
    Good god you're right, I was convinced we'd given Kaminski a two year deal and that we'd let him go next Summer and buy a proper upgrade. That's not ideal.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,230
    sam3110 said:
    superclive98 said:
    Mannion is definitely better than Kaminski and given the chance, will continue to improve.
    Kaminski will only get worse and cost us more goals/games if we stick with him.
    He's not "definitely better" he had one great game against Watford and then dropped 2 clangers in a row in a crucial part of the season. They're both not quite good enough in reality, but Kaminski was the number 1 choice at the start of the season when we were a lot better at the back and ended up contributing to many clean sheets. He also gets a slightly unfair rap because he's a high earner for us, though if you took his wage and compared it to the wider championship he's still in the lower half of earners when it comes to keepers
    His wage is also massively overinflated by our fans. The foreign reporter that broke the story that we were signing him instead of a foreign club said our offer was £12.5k per week, would guess that’s a lot closer to the truth than a lot of the numbers our fans throw around 

    Neither are good enough but I think Kaminski is the right choice to start the season
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 30,932

  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 33,122
    I think Kaminski is better than Mannion, but if someone is seriously interested in taking his salary off our hands then I would be very keen to do it. Hope we have someone lined up to come in though !
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,746
    se9addick said:
    I think Kaminski is better than Mannion, but if someone is seriously interested in taking his salary off our hands then I would be very keen to do it. Hope we have someone lined up to come in though !
    Agreed on both counts - Kaminski is maybe not the best option, but perhaps the less bad. If we could have another, better option to come in I would happily see either keeper go.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,644
    fenaddick said:
    Crispywood said:
    superclive98 said:
    Mannion is definitely better than Kaminski and given the chance, will continue to improve.
    Kaminski will only get worse and cost us more goals/games if we stick with him.
    Mannion is 28 doubt he’s classified as someone who can develop unlike the whole reason we brought in brooks who is 24.

    The Mannion/Kaminski debate is basically deciding what is better out of 2 poor options. We’re basically waiting until Kaminski contract expires or we find someone silly enough to take him off us and then we will upgrade. Don’t feel safe with either in goal 


    Mannion's deal expires next summer, Kaminski the one after. Next season is either a great chance for Brooks to get some game time or to replace Kaminski as No 1
    Has anyone seen Brooks play? Is there any hope he could potentially be our number 1 or is he just going to be a backup at best?
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 5,481
    guinnessaddick said:

    Please let it be true.
  • Southendaddick
    Southendaddick Posts: 5,491
    Really bugs me when people say ‘I’d drive him there
    myself’

    But Harwich isn’t that far for me
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 1,333
    Just think if this had actually never happened the Rumours thread would be three hundred posts less and actually about rumours.
  • Jdredsox
    Jdredsox Posts: 608
    gringo said:
    Just think if this had actually never happened the Rumours thread would be three hundred posts less and actually about rumours.
    We need something to fill the time whilst Ouma does his photoshoot in our new away kit.

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