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++Charlie Kelman signs on a 4 year deal++

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  • IR94
    IR94 Posts: 741
    Not sure how he fits in with our system
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,026
    NabySarr said:
    He will score next week at QPR
    The law of exes makes it a certainty. 

    The big question though is, will he refuse to celebrate the goal OR will he cock an ear to the home supporters? 
    The rule should be you are only permitted to refuse celebrating a goal if you played regularly for a team for a decade and supported them as a boy. It’s gotten completely out of hand. 
  • Anonymous. 

  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,214
    IR94 said:
    Not sure how he fits in with our system
    Today shows he plays up front in a two, not on his own as he has done up until today.

    We've been so successful in playing one way since the great turnaround of last season we've not really played any other way other than the one central striker. I'm sure there'll be lots more games when we're behind and the shape changes and we play two up front when he'll feature more then.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,442
    IR94 said:
    Not sure how he fits in with our system
    It was always a concern. And quite frankly it will have to change when we go a goal down. I felt Leicester did to us what we did to the majority of teams last season. Snuck one in and shut up shop.
    The likelihood is, no matter how strong our back line is it will happen a lot and we need to have answers. Kelmans game will be more on the attacking foot. Not holding out for at least a draw. Not something I'm completely against. But when you go a goal down, something needs to happen.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,734
    IR94 said:
    Not sure how he fits in with our system
    It was always a concern. And quite frankly it will have to change when we go a goal down. I felt Leicester did to us what we did to the majority of teams last season. Snuck one in and shut up shop.
    The likelihood is, no matter how strong our back line is it will happen a lot and we need to have answers. Kelmans game will be more on the attacking foot. Not holding out for at least a draw. Not something I'm completely against. But when you go a goal down, something needs to happen.
    Fair play if allowing 12 more shots after they took the lead was part of their gameplan!
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,194
    se9addick said:
    NabySarr said:
    He will score next week at QPR
    The law of exes makes it a certainty. 

    The big question though is, will he refuse to celebrate the goal OR will he cock an ear to the home supporters? 
    The rule should be you are only permitted to refuse celebrating a goal if you played regularly for a team for a decade and supported them as a boy. It’s gotten completely out of hand. 
    Last time I was at Loftus Road Bradley Allen’s celebrations lasted a whole minute. 
  • PhilFor54
    PhilFor54 Posts: 182
    Not going to judge Kelman yet, it's too early, but I have reached "it's a worry" stage. I want to see Tanto start, with Kelman or Leaburn.
  • PhilFor54
    PhilFor54 Posts: 182
    Of all of our signings I was most excited by Tanto and he hasn't been given a chance yet.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,194
    PhilFor54 said:
    Not going to judge Kelman yet, it's too early, but I have reached "it's a worry" stage. I want to see Tanto start, with Kelman or Leaburn.
    Agree. Three games isn’t much to go on, but he has looked way off it. 
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  • DRAddick
    DRAddick Posts: 3,588
    Uboat said:
    se9addick said:
    NabySarr said:
    He will score next week at QPR
    The law of exes makes it a certainty. 

    The big question though is, will he refuse to celebrate the goal OR will he cock an ear to the home supporters? 
    The rule should be you are only permitted to refuse celebrating a goal if you played regularly for a team for a decade and supported them as a boy. It’s gotten completely out of hand. 
    Last time I was at Loftus Road Bradley Allen’s celebrations lasted a whole minute. 
    About how much time it took him to cover the length of the penalty box.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,194
    DRAddick said:
    Uboat said:
    se9addick said:
    NabySarr said:
    He will score next week at QPR
    The law of exes makes it a certainty. 

    The big question though is, will he refuse to celebrate the goal OR will he cock an ear to the home supporters? 
    The rule should be you are only permitted to refuse celebrating a goal if you played regularly for a team for a decade and supported them as a boy. It’s gotten completely out of hand. 
    Last time I was at Loftus Road Bradley Allen’s celebrations lasted a whole minute. 
    About how much time it took him to cover the length of the penalty box.
    To be fair, he managed a conventional celebration in front of the away fans, then some sort of aeroplane impression all the way back to the half way line along the touch line by the QPR fans. 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,325
    3 league games into the season. 


  • Southendaddick
    Southendaddick Posts: 5,312
    He’s getting stick cos when he came on today he looked off the pace again, that’s to be expected if unfit but you’ve gotta show the work ethic 

    I just hope he gets a goal Tuesday to get the ball rolling

    At this moment he’s giving me more Luke Varney vibes than Super Clive we shall see 
  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 3,930
    I watched him a bit last year with orient and he’s a very dangerous player. I think he’s a younger Godden, a finisher that ironically I think would have scored had he been on earlier as we whizzed quite a few balls across goal. He’ll be a great signing for us I feel
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,167
    Didn’t strike me as being especially lazy today, although I acknowledge there is a different perspective available to those watching inside the stadium rather than on a live feed. There was one incident where he sprinted back hard to challenge their player who was running into our half with the ball, albeit that may may have been after he’d lost possession with an under hit pass. 

    The intensity of work rate required in this team is insane, really, and probably as high as any team in the 92. Easy to look lazy in this team if you’re slightly off it. If it’s not what he’s been used to, plus a lack of preseason it could easily be part of what he’s struggling with adjustment wise. Any lack of confidence can also sometimes be perceived that way - look at what was being thrown at TC before Jones got hold of him. I don’t think anyone would say he is lazy player now.

    I will admit I’m a tad concerned based on the relative lack of impact so far, but NJ would simply not sign a lazy player and certainly won’t stand for it if Kelman isn’t putting in the expected levels of effort. We made a lot of signings and always a risk one or two won’t workout. Even more of a risk that some will take a while to settle and start to perform well. Time will tell which Kelman is but it won’t help if people start getting on his back. Let’s try and be patient. 
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,141
    Is this payback for Bonne ? 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,823
    We might need to change our system , with no goals in open play this season, albeit not a bad start.  Kelman might benefit .  
  • Think it’s way too early to judge him. When’s Godden back btw ? 
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,204
    IR94 said:
    Not sure how he fits in with our system
    It was always a concern. And quite frankly it will have to change when we go a goal down. I felt Leicester did to us what we did to the majority of teams last season. Snuck one in and shut up shop.
    The likelihood is, no matter how strong our back line is it will happen a lot and we need to have answers. Kelmans game will be more on the attacking foot. Not holding out for at least a draw. Not something I'm completely against. But when you go a goal down, something needs to happen.
    How often last season (as you've said majority) did we go 1-0 up and allow opposition to have 20 shots over 90 minutes? 

    Leicester didn't shut up shop yesterday, they couldn't handle us. 
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  • peterreeves
    peterreeves Posts: 1,062
    Whilst I agree with most that Kelmans style of play doesn't normally fit us why then did we buy him? Only Nathan knows but I'd love to hear his thinking. 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 10,999
    Whilst I agree with most that Kelmans style of play doesn't normally fit us why then did we buy him? Only Nathan knows but I'd love to hear his thinking. 
    Because Jones believes that he can develop/coach the skills needed to become a player who WILL fit the way we play. He's got skill and finishing ability, those are things you can't teach - if he can adapt and learn to play a Jones system then a proper cutting edge up front would win us games like yesterday's.


  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,699
    Thought he looked lost yesterday.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,359
    thenewbie said:
    Whilst I agree with most that Kelmans style of play doesn't normally fit us why then did we buy him? Only Nathan knows but I'd love to hear his thinking. 
    Because Jones believes that he can develop/coach the skills needed to become a player who WILL fit the way we play. He's got skill and finishing ability, those are things you can't teach - if he can adapt and learn to play a Jones system then a proper cutting edge up front would win us games like yesterday's.


    This, plus the way we play will continue to evolve, so it's a bit of Kelman adapting and improving, and the team doing the same.
  • Pretty invisible so far - not sure how he fits in.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,722
    thenewbie said:
    Whilst I agree with most that Kelmans style of play doesn't normally fit us why then did we buy him? Only Nathan knows but I'd love to hear his thinking. 
    Because Jones believes that he can develop/coach the skills needed to become a player who WILL fit the way we play. He's got skill and finishing ability, those are things you can't teach - if he can adapt and learn to play a Jones system then a proper cutting edge up front would win us games like yesterday's.


    This is what matters really. Jones wanted him and clearly rates him, and he will know better than randoms on the internet.

    Unless he gets frozen out completely like Ahadme, then people should chill out, be patient and trust that he has a part to play.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,816
    Croydon said:
    thenewbie said:
    Whilst I agree with most that Kelmans style of play doesn't normally fit us why then did we buy him? Only Nathan knows but I'd love to hear his thinking. 
    Because Jones believes that he can develop/coach the skills needed to become a player who WILL fit the way we play. He's got skill and finishing ability, those are things you can't teach - if he can adapt and learn to play a Jones system then a proper cutting edge up front would win us games like yesterday's.


    This is what matters really. Jones wanted him and clearly rates him, and he will know better than randoms on the internet.

    Unless he gets frozen out completely like Ahadme, then people should chill out, be patient and trust that he has a part to play.
    Jones also wanted Tanto, wanted Miles (hence the new contract) and hyped TC to the heavens last season. And he wanted Godden last summer. 

    That's a lot of options, and unless we completely change the formation, only 2 can start a game. 
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,493
    Early prediction: he’ll be back on loan at Orient by the end of January 
    No he won’t for god sake .. he will have 15 goals by end of the season , look at Godden last season 2 goals in 14 .. but I bet you were singing his name when we beat Wycombe in the play offs ??? Kelman not getting any help from Campbell who is woefully out of form. 

  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,493
    He’s getting stick cos when he came on today he looked off the pace again, that’s to be expected if unfit but you’ve gotta show the work ethic 

    I just hope he gets a goal Tuesday to get the ball rolling

    At this moment he’s giving me more Luke Varney vibes than Super Clive we shall see 
    He was brought on to late yesterday , long with Knibbs and Olaofe ….. but if the Campbell chance had fell to Kelman we would be celebrating a point .. 
  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 380
    When I started going in the 70's, both players and managers were given a minimum of a season before there were rumblings from the fans.
    When I started going in the '50s, you could get a packet of Woodbines, a pint of bitter, a ride to the West End and back and a blowjob, all for a quid. F'all to do with nowadays.