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After the Millwall game - club reply to CAST p34, further CAST response p45

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  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,764
    MartinCAFC said:
    Henry Irving said:
    Spoke to one of the directors about this who said that it was out of the club's hands and a police decision they weren't happy about.

    Police rationale was if the Spanners were kept in they'd smash the place up and/or fight the old bill.

    In case you want to let the crowd go the museum will be open after the game.
    And this is what it will always come down to. Arrest and ban those who cause trouble instead of taking the easy way out.
    What's not to say they won't smash the place up anyway?
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,713
    Covered End said:
    MrOneLung said:
    seriously though, what about those of us who need to go up Charlton Church Lane ?
    Go up Charlton Lane.
    I’d be surprised if they don’t stop people doing that otherwise you could just cut back into Charlton Church Lane to get to the station without going down Woolwich Road. 
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,527
    Leeds_Addick said:
    Covered End said:
    MrOneLung said:
    seriously though, what about those of us who need to go up Charlton Church Lane ?
    Go up Charlton Lane.
    I’d be surprised if they don’t stop people doing that otherwise you could just cut back into Charlton Church Lane to get to the station without going down Woolwich Road. 
    Be blowing out your arse times youve got there
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,764
    Leeds_Addick said:
    Covered End said:
    MrOneLung said:
    seriously though, what about those of us who need to go up Charlton Church Lane ?
    Go up Charlton Lane.
    I’d be surprised if they don’t stop people doing that otherwise you could just cut back into Charlton Church Lane to get to the station without going down Woolwich Road. 
    Still a fair old walk, using Lansdowne lane & the heights.
  • stevexreeve
    stevexreeve Posts: 1,393
    Relax and enjoy the mayhem and general stupidity of the authorities! Much better for the heart. Nothing you can do about it!

  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,836
    stevexreeve said:
    Relax and enjoy the mayhem and general stupidity of the authorities! Much better for the heart. Nothing you can do about it!

    Spot on.
  • Valleysarr
    Valleysarr Posts: 1,104
    After the game I would say a fair few of Charlton and Wall will be heading into town for the Tommy march … 
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,836
    Valleysarr said:
    After the game I would say a fair few of Charlton and Wall will be heading into town for the Tommy march … 
    As is their right in a democratic country and good on them so long as it's peaceful and doesn't descend into violence or bigotry.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,880
    Valleysarr said:
    After the game I would say a fair few of Charlton and Wall will be heading into town for the Tommy march … 

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-15088219/amp/Police-braced-London-chaos-Tommy-Robinson-football-rally-SIX-Premier-League-matches-Saturday.html

    Charlton get a mention 😮
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,559
    Millwall seem to make a far better effort on communicating with their fans about tomorrows arrangements than CAFC, why is this?

    https://www.millwallfc.co.uk/news/2025/september/12/supporter-information-ahead-of-saturday-s-trip-to-the-valley/

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  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,921
    clive said:
    Millwall seem to make a far better effort on communicating with their fans about tomorrows arrangements than CAFC, why is this?

    https://www.millwallfc.co.uk/news/2025/september/12/supporter-information-ahead-of-saturday-s-trip-to-the-valley/
    Because they're not totally embarrassed by the decision, maybe?
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,921
    On a serious point, someone needs to make sure the level crossing is properly marshalled/policed. I seem to remember last time this happened that the coppers on the ground didn't even know there was a level crossing down the road they were telling everyone to go down!
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,599
    clive said:
    Millwall seem to make a far better effort on communicating with their fans about tomorrows arrangements than CAFC, why is this?

    https://www.millwallfc.co.uk/news/2025/september/12/supporter-information-ahead-of-saturday-s-trip-to-the-valley/
    Probably more used to things like this. Agree really poor comms from the club though 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,774
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    I believe there is a MAJOR anti immigration march taking place in central London tomorrow and trouble is expected.
    O B will be very stretched and I suppose keeping the fabs as far apart as they can, for as long as they can is a way of ensuring that there is as little trouble as possible.
    Arsenal, Palace, Fulham (v Leeds), West Ham (v Spurs) and Brentford are all at home tomorrow, busy time for O B
    I wouldn't be surprised to see Essex, Surrey, Kent etc. Police patrolling London tomorrow
    What has this got to do with the policing of our game?
    They knew someone would have to give & knew good little 'ole Charlton would comply meekly. 
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,764
    Off_it said:
    On a serious point, someone needs to make sure the level crossing is properly marshalled/policed. I seem to remember last time this happened that the coppers on the ground didn't even know there was a level crossing down the road they were telling everyone to go down!
    If the OB want to get rid of the spanners quickly, then the trains need to run and this will close off the level crossing. This is cause problems all the road from the crossing back up to Harvey Gardens.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,920
    I personally think we should refuse this shit and just walk our normal way - are the police gonna nick / be able to stop everybody? They're obviously gonna be understaffed anyway what with the march and all the rest of it. What they are really asking is for us to wait in the ground again. Something we made very clear last time we weren't happy about. Part of me thinks fuck it who cares, the other part thinks bollox. This is gonna really grate if we lose. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,774
    edited September 12
    MrOneLung said:
    seriously though, what about those of us who need to go up Charlton Church Lane ?
    You can't. Its 2025 and it's called (non) democracy & trampling all over your civil liberties.

    I wonder what other London clubs are imposing this on the home fans tomorrow ?  
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,774
    RaplhMilne said:
    Millwall will have an away support of 3,000 season ticket holding , high loyalty points , fans.  I think we can be fairly sure their bark is worse than their bite. They will be noisy  and threatening, but these are largely kittens not Lions. They will be plastic Hoolies, who on the whole haven’t thrown a punch since year 10 at school.  They are not the hordes of Gengis Khan, so let’s not big them up. 




    So if that's the case why are WE not being able to go about our lawful business and having to walk round in circles for 20 mins.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,003
    Leeds_Addick said:
    Covered End said:
    MrOneLung said:
    seriously though, what about those of us who need to go up Charlton Church Lane ?
    Go up Charlton Lane.
    I’d be surprised if they don’t stop people doing that otherwise you could just cut back into Charlton Church Lane to get to the station without going down Woolwich Road. 
    No reason to close Charlton Lane. I imagine they might block Charlton Church Lane just north of the station though, to stop anyone trying to access the station via Charlton Lane, Lansdowne Lane and The Heights.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,774
    Henry Irving said:
    Spoke to one of the directors about this who said that it was out of the club's hands and a police decision they weren't happy about.

    Police rationale was if the Spanners were kept in they'd smash the place up and/or fight the old bill.

    In case you want to let the crowd go the museum will be open after the game.
    So all other home fans in the Championship have to do this when Millwall visit ?  Don't  recall seeing it in the media over the past few years that Millwall fans have smashed up stadiums. 

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  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,713
    killerandflash said:
    Leeds_Addick said:
    Covered End said:
    MrOneLung said:
    seriously though, what about those of us who need to go up Charlton Church Lane ?
    Go up Charlton Lane.
    I’d be surprised if they don’t stop people doing that otherwise you could just cut back into Charlton Church Lane to get to the station without going down Woolwich Road. 
    No reason to close Charlton Lane. I imagine they might block Charlton Church Lane just north of the station though, to stop anyone trying to access the station via Charlton Lane, Lansdowne Lane and The Heights.
    Yeah fair that makes more sense. 
  • southamptonaddick
    southamptonaddick Posts: 4,061
    Why are some people blaming the club. 
    We've been told it's a police decision and they have the final say. 
    It seems some so called Charlton "fans" just can't wait to have a dig. 
    Nobody is happy about it but if the police decide that's what is going to happen the club can do fuck all about it. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,774
    Off_it said:
    On a serious point, someone needs to make sure the level crossing is properly marshalled/policed. I seem to remember last time this happened that the coppers on the ground didn't even know there was a level crossing down the road they were telling everyone to go down!
    This in spades. 

    God forbid someone gets knocked down by a train or run over by a car further down in Woolwich Rd.
  • hermann
    hermann Posts: 488
    This is one of the rare occasions where I need to get to Woolwich after the game rather than North Greenwich or London Bridge, buzzing
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,920
    southamptonaddick said:
    Why are some people blaming the club. 
    We've been told it's a police decision and they have the final say. 
    It seems some so called Charlton "fans" just can't wait to have a dig. 
    Nobody is happy about it but if the police decide that's what is going to happen the club can do fuck all about it. 
    thats possibly correct but what if 20,000 fans decide they aren't gonna comply with it? 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,204
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    Valleysarr said:
    After the game I would say a fair few of Charlton and Wall will be heading into town for the Tommy march … 
    As is their right in a democratic country and good on them so long as it's peaceful and doesn't descend into violence or bigotry.

    It will, but not from the football lot.
  • IT_Andy
    IT_Andy Posts: 477
    They going to block Ransom Walk off? 
  • southamptonaddick
    southamptonaddick Posts: 4,061
    edited September 12
    DOUCHER said:
    southamptonaddick said:
    Why are some people blaming the club. 
    We've been told it's a police decision and they have the final say. 
    It seems some so called Charlton "fans" just can't wait to have a dig. 
    Nobody is happy about it but if the police decide that's what is going to happen the club can do fuck all about it. 
    thats possibly correct but what if 20,000 fans decide they aren't gonna comply with it? 
    Will never happen. 
    Maybe get a few but that'll be it. 
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,764
    edited September 12
    southamptonaddick said:
    Why are some people blaming the club. 
    We've been told it's a police decision and they have the final say. 
    It seems some so called Charlton "fans" just can't wait to have a dig. 
    Nobody is happy about it but if the police decide that's what is going to happen the club can do fuck all about it. 
    Because they have allowed this decision to be made.There isn't another club in the country  that would allow this to happen to their home fans. This will be the second time that it's happened to us and you can bet your bottom dollar it won't be the last. Grow some fucking balls  and keep them in, the club could always lose the keys to the gates.
  • SteveACS
    SteveACS Posts: 380
    Off_it said:
    On a serious point, someone needs to make sure the level crossing is properly marshalled/policed. I seem to remember last time this happened that the coppers on the ground didn't even know there was a level crossing down the road they were telling everyone to go down!
    If there are no trains, what's to marshall?

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