POST-MATCH THREAD: Sheffield Utd v Charlton Athletic: Saturday 20th September 2025 KO 15:00

EugenesAxe

The Red Robin said:

swords_alive said:

Good view of the goal celebration with spare game changers rushing in and advertising board collapsing

https://x.com/MickyMFB/status/1969710890120327570

Ref booked Tanto for that. Moron. 

The ref was crap on a few levels, apart from when he became an extra defender for us!

Callumcafc

Redrobo said:

O-Randy-Hunt said:

Ramsay walks back into the team. Simple as.

Or learns from his mistake.
If you lose your place and your replacement plays well, you have lost your place and have to win it back.
But obviously that depends on fitness.
Given the commitment displayed Saturday he will probably play Tuesday to freshen up the team.

We have a game on Tuesday?

Kap10

Scoham said:

Highlights on ITV4 now, first game.

The line up graphic put Burke on the right wing and Bree right back.

I think we spoilt ITVs narrative which seemed all set to welcome Sheffields conquering hero, but instead of the curmudgeon northerner they had to focus on a euphoric South East London Welsh man.

charltonbob

fenaddick said:

A hint of the NJ knee slide here 

https://x.com/jimmyyy_____/status/1969494427811934510?s=46&t=MojDVxh_AjG5taAWPQn6Tw

Great reaction from the bench ( The staff & players on the bench not the actual bench of course  )

MuttleyCAFC

In all honesty, I can't think of a worse opponent for them than us for this game. United thought we were ideal opponents but I think a more open team defensively would have suited them. Our weakness is after going behind but that often doesn't happen as we have one of the best organised defences, if not the best, in this league.

agim

PWR

I only caught the last 20 mins as was invited to the QPR vs Stoke game (zzzzz) 

I'd been saying all week with Wilder back we will get a tonking and I am so so glad I was wrong! That's a great three points for us. As Curbs would say get your points at home and get what you can away from home. Onto Saturday!

AFKABartram

Kap10 said:

Scoham said:

Highlights on ITV4 now, first game.

The line up graphic put Burke on the right wing and Bree right back.

I think we spoilt ITVs narrative which seemed all set to welcome Sheffields conquering hero, but instead of the curmudgeon northerner they had to focus on a euphoric South East London Welsh man.

Very poor highlights coverage which looked like Sheff Unhad a much stronger half than they did. Didn’t show either Kelman or Campbell’s poor efforts when through 

ShootersHillGuru

golfaddick said:

paulsturgess said:

eastterrace6168 said:

ross1 said:

eastterrace6168 said:

ross1 said:

I think this was the right time to play Sheff U, I reckon if we finish above them we would be high in the league

At this rate everyone will finish above them!

Sheff U will finish in top 6 

It was slightly tongue in cheek mate....but we will see, still feel we will finish above them...

Would be interested to know the data on teams who have started with 0/0/6 and their final finishing places 

I read only 4 teams had lost their opening 6 games since the "Championship" came into being 20 years ago. No idea what happened to those teams but I expect they all got relegated. 

Three. Peterborough, Wycombe and Sheffield Wed. Only Sheffield Wed stayed up finishing 16th. 

osteoaddick

Good Vlog @Braziliance

Fair comment about stadium and great atmosphere. It seems no video captures how relentless that rain was - it looked difficult to play in. 

@LouisMend guest on Thurs - Shef Utd Way - was naturally downbeat post match vlog but as you said they have class players and IMO will be ok. 

Agree with some we are starting to gel - but Kelman does need service - I felt if he'd had the 2nd half chances like Leaburn he'd have put them away.  Swap the starters maybe?

ShootersHillGuru

Nothing to complain about with that result or performance with the possible exception of us still being wasteful with chances. Having said that, perhaps a dose of realism is needed now our rightful euphoria has subsided. Sheffield United are awful. They’ve lost their opening six matches and only scored once which was on their opening game of the season v Bristol City. A 1 - 4 reversal. Their previous fixture saw Ipswich put five past them. Returning manager Chris Wilder was scathing about the performance and highlighted the massive job he has on his hands. Of course you can only beat what’s in front of you and we did but this was a game that frankly we ought and needed to have won perhaps with a little more ease than with a 90th minute winner. That’s probably a little harsh because we got the result. I completely understand and support NJ in how he sets us up. We’re newly promoted and first order of business is to stay in the division. I see enough to feel cautiously optimistic we’ll achieve that goal. I don’t think NJ knows his best team yet and once the pieces of the jigsaw fall into place I think we’ll have more attacking about us. Bang mid table after six games is very satisfactory. 

masicat

Imagine being told exactly 12 months ago that in a years time we would win a league game at Sheffield United. At that time we were looking down to league 2 and they were looking up to the Premiership. Jones doesn’t strike me as the type of manager that has a 5 year plan. Looking at the players he has bought, and the youngsters we have, I would say he sees next season 2026/27 as the season marked down for an attack on promotion.  That said, a win this coming Saturday will have us on target for 72 points. Last season, mainly due to the amount of points the top two had, 68 points was enough to get into the playoffs. 

This season that will probably be closer to 75/76. In my opinion, don’t book any holidays for May 23rd 2026. 

Leuth

ShootersHillGuru said:

Nothing to complain about with that result or performance with the possible exception of us still being wasteful with chances. Having said that, perhaps a dose of realism is needed now our rightful euphoria has subsided. Sheffield United are awful. They’ve lost their opening six matches and only scored once which was on their opening game of the season v Bristol City. A 1 - 4 reversal. Their previous fixture saw Ipswich put five past them. Returning manager Chris Wilder was scathing about the performance and highlighted the massive job he has on his hands. Of course you can only beat what’s in front of you and we did but this was a game that frankly we ought and needed to have won perhaps with a little more ease than with a 90th minute winner. That’s probably a little harsh because we got the result. I completely understand and support NJ in how he sets us up. We’re newly promoted and first order of business is to stay in the division. I see enough to feel cautiously optimistic we’ll achieve that goal. I don’t think NJ knows his best team yet and once the pieces of the jigsaw fall into place I think we’ll have more attacking about us. Bang mid table after six games is very satisfactory. 

I don't care how badly they're playing, to say we 'ought and needed' to have easily beaten a side containing Tanganga, Hamer, Ogbene, Campbell and so forth away from home is absolutely insane 

AFKABartram

ShootersHillGuru said:

 I don’t think NJ knows his best team yet . 

I don’t think any of us do tbh! 

thenewbie

ShootersHillGuru said:

Nothing to complain about with that result or performance with the possible exception of us still being wasteful with chances. Having said that, perhaps a dose of realism is needed now our rightful euphoria has subsided. Sheffield United are awful. They’ve lost their opening six matches and only scored once which was on their opening game of the season v Bristol City. A 1 - 4 reversal. Their previous fixture saw Ipswich put five past them. Returning manager Chris Wilder was scathing about the performance and highlighted the massive job he has on his hands. Of course you can only beat what’s in front of you and we did but this was a game that frankly we ought and needed to have won perhaps with a little more ease than with a 90th minute winner. That’s probably a little harsh because we got the result. I completely understand and support NJ in how he sets us up. We’re newly promoted and first order of business is to stay in the division. I see enough to feel cautiously optimistic we’ll achieve that goal. I don’t think NJ knows his best team yet and once the pieces of the jigsaw fall into place I think we’ll have more attacking about us. Bang mid table after six games is very satisfactory. 

I see the point but in fairness we could and maybe should have scored considerably earlier, its not like we woke up 5 minutes from time and suddenly started trying.

You could argue that the late goal is actually a good thing as it shows the players keep going to the end. Hopefully one or two strikers get a goal that starts a little streak going.

paulsturgess

masicat said:

Imagine being told exactly 12 months ago that in a years time we would win a league game at Sheffield United. At that time we were looking down to league 2 and they were looking up to the Premiership. Jones doesn’t strike me as the type of manager that has a 5 year plan. Looking at the players he has bought, and the youngsters we have, I would say he sees next season 2026/27 as the season marked down for an attack on promotion.  That said, a win this coming Saturday will have us on target for 72 points. Last season, mainly due to the amount of points the top two had, 68 points was enough to get into the playoffs. 

This season that will probably be closer to 75/76. In my opinion, don’t book any holidays for May 23rd 2026. 

I wouldn’t get carried away.

however, regarding the points tally, if anything the potentially more open league this year is more likely to favour a lower points tally scrambling someone into the play offs. 

See 12/13 when everyone beat everyone, 2nd was in the 70s on points and we missed out with a huge pack of sneaking in on 68. 

Unrecognisable tallies from recent years at this level. 

Garrymanilow

Just on the discussion the other day about whether Tanto messed up his finish, this is a good shot of just after the moment he struck it:



Can't put it to the left of the keeper because the defender is there to block. The keeper is scrambling across and predicting a shot to his right which given how close it is he'd probably have a decent chance of stopping. As the keeper's already diving to the right any shot down the middle is going to be away from his dive and close to his body, which makes it hard to stop from that range. He's not got a huge amount of space to put the ball and I think just quickly hitting it hard straight down the middle was the best thing he could have done

thickandthin63

AFKABartram said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

 I don’t think NJ knows his best team yet . 

I don’t think any of us do tbh! 

And thats a big plus,because it means so many players are good enough to play,and will all be pushing for places,who would have doubted that Kayne Ramsey would be under threat but he is.

paulsturgess

Garrymanilow said:

Just on the discussion the other day about whether Tanto messed up his finish, this is a good shot of just after the moment he struck it:



Can't put it to the left of the keeper because the defender is there to block. The keeper is scrambling across and predicting a shot to his right which given how close it is he'd probably have a decent chance of stopping. As the keeper's already diving to the right any shot down the middle is going to be away from his dive and close to his body, which makes it hard to stop from that range. He's not got a huge amount of space to put the ball and I think just quickly hitting it hard straight down the middle was the best thing he could have done

I think you're still on last minute winner happy drugs cos you're talking rubbish here mate!

The picture you have just posted shows him firing the ball straight at the goalkeeper. In what world is that the best place to put it. Even though the keeper was preparing to dive, there was still an enormous chance of him blocking it with his legs or it hitting them accidentally. 

Olaofe was only a few yards out, there was an ENORMOUS space to the goalie's right to fire that into where the keeper would have had no chance. The keeper was at best in the middle of the goal and if anything was further from towards the near post where the ball had come across from. He should have put that in the corner out of reach of the goalie, that sort of lack of clinical edge is why we're struggling to score goals.

What he did well is just focus on striking it cleanly and on target / not skying it. It doesn't matter now, but really it should have been a better finish and as it doesn't matter now, there is no point trying to pretend otherwise for the sake of it!

NabySarr

Garrymanilow said:

Just on the discussion the other day about whether Tanto messed up his finish, this is a good shot of just after the moment he struck it:



Can't put it to the left of the keeper because the defender is there to block. The keeper is scrambling across and predicting a shot to his right which given how close it is he'd probably have a decent chance of stopping. As the keeper's already diving to the right any shot down the middle is going to be away from his dive and close to his body, which makes it hard to stop from that range. He's not got a huge amount of space to put the ball and I think just quickly hitting it hard straight down the middle was the best thing he could have done

Think he described it in a similar way in his interview after the game with Docherty. That the keeper was gambling on diving that way so he went the other 

paulsturgess

edited with even better image. huge gaping goal to aim at to GKs right, or the roof of the net, but that's going straight at the keepers body. that's not where you should be aiming for!!

Leuth

If the ball's in front of him he can smack it in that corner. With the ball if anything slightly behind him he's done exactly the right thing 

eastterrace6168

Let's face it, he hit it first time, banking on it going in, he could have dummied both the keeper and the defender and left them on the ground, but he also couldn't afford to cock it up.
Anyhow, it went in and we won, that's about all we could have hoped for at the time...celebrate...🤗

Rothko

Guess what, it ended up in the back of the net and we won, so bore off with the deep analysis 

ShootersHillGuru

Leuth said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

Nothing to complain about with that result or performance with the possible exception of us still being wasteful with chances. Having said that, perhaps a dose of realism is needed now our rightful euphoria has subsided. Sheffield United are awful. They’ve lost their opening six matches and only scored once which was on their opening game of the season v Bristol City. A 1 - 4 reversal. Their previous fixture saw Ipswich put five past them. Returning manager Chris Wilder was scathing about the performance and highlighted the massive job he has on his hands. Of course you can only beat what’s in front of you and we did but this was a game that frankly we ought and needed to have won perhaps with a little more ease than with a 90th minute winner. That’s probably a little harsh because we got the result. I completely understand and support NJ in how he sets us up. We’re newly promoted and first order of business is to stay in the division. I see enough to feel cautiously optimistic we’ll achieve that goal. I don’t think NJ knows his best team yet and once the pieces of the jigsaw fall into place I think we’ll have more attacking about us. Bang mid table after six games is very satisfactory. 

I don't care how badly they're playing, to say we 'ought and needed' to have easily beaten a side containing Tanganga, Hamer, Ogbene, Campbell and so forth away from home is absolutely insane 

We should have won that on chances created by I’d say more than a late but welcome goal. That’s been arguably true for a couple more games. Until we start to take our chances at a decent rate the single goals we seem to be relying on won’t see us right over the season. Six games four goals won’t I’d suggest always be good enough. We’ve had I’d say a very acceptable start to the campaign but let’s not shy away from the fact we don’t score many goals. That’s a big concern. 

NabySarr

3 subs we brought on all playing a part in the goal is nice. Leaburn wins the first header, Knibbs the second and then Olaofe obviously getting the finishing touch 

Think those 3 coming on works really well because we can almost physically over-power teams at the end of a game against tired legs. 

Garrymanilow

paulsturgess said:

Garrymanilow said:

Just on the discussion the other day about whether Tanto messed up his finish, this is a good shot of just after the moment he struck it:



Can't put it to the left of the keeper because the defender is there to block. The keeper is scrambling across and predicting a shot to his right which given how close it is he'd probably have a decent chance of stopping. As the keeper's already diving to the right any shot down the middle is going to be away from his dive and close to his body, which makes it hard to stop from that range. He's not got a huge amount of space to put the ball and I think just quickly hitting it hard straight down the middle was the best thing he could have done

I think you're still on last minute winner happy drugs cos you're talking rubbish here mate!

The picture you have just posted shows him firing the ball straight at the goalkeeper. In what world is that the best place to put it. Even though the keeper was preparing to dive, there was still an enormous chance of him blocking it with his legs or it hitting them accidentally. 

Olaofe was only a few yards out, there was an ENORMOUS space to the goalie's right to fire that into where the keeper would have had no chance. The keeper was at best in the middle of the goal and if anything was further from towards the near post where the ball had come across from. He should have put that in the corner out of reach of the goalie, that sort of lack of clinical edge is why we're struggling to score goals.

What he did well is just focus on striking it cleanly and on target / not skying it. It doesn't matter now, but really it should have been a better finish and as it doesn't matter now, there is no point trying to pretend otherwise for the sake of it!

Er no, you can clearly see the keeper is going away from the middle. I know that it's a picture but the in the game the people were actually moving so the scene didn't stay that way, which is quite important. Let's not ignore the reality of what actually happened out here, he hit it down the middle where the keeper couldn't save it and it went in as a result. He even says he saw the keeper moving and put it away from the dive. The keeper ended up close to his post once the ball hit the net because he'd dived across when trying to predict the shot, which he got wrong because Tanto saw it coming. 

paulsturgess

Garrymanilow said:

paulsturgess said:

Garrymanilow said:

Just on the discussion the other day about whether Tanto messed up his finish, this is a good shot of just after the moment he struck it:



Can't put it to the left of the keeper because the defender is there to block. The keeper is scrambling across and predicting a shot to his right which given how close it is he'd probably have a decent chance of stopping. As the keeper's already diving to the right any shot down the middle is going to be away from his dive and close to his body, which makes it hard to stop from that range. He's not got a huge amount of space to put the ball and I think just quickly hitting it hard straight down the middle was the best thing he could have done

I think you're still on last minute winner happy drugs cos you're talking rubbish here mate!

The picture you have just posted shows him firing the ball straight at the goalkeeper. In what world is that the best place to put it. Even though the keeper was preparing to dive, there was still an enormous chance of him blocking it with his legs or it hitting them accidentally. 

Olaofe was only a few yards out, there was an ENORMOUS space to the goalie's right to fire that into where the keeper would have had no chance. The keeper was at best in the middle of the goal and if anything was further from towards the near post where the ball had come across from. He should have put that in the corner out of reach of the goalie, that sort of lack of clinical edge is why we're struggling to score goals.

What he did well is just focus on striking it cleanly and on target / not skying it. It doesn't matter now, but really it should have been a better finish and as it doesn't matter now, there is no point trying to pretend otherwise for the sake of it!

Er no, you can clearly see the keeper is going away from the middle. I know that it's a picture but the in the game the people were actually moving so the scene didn't stay that way, which is quite important. Let's not ignore the reality of what actually happened out here, he hit it down the middle where the keeper couldn't save it and it went in as a result. He even says he saw the keeper moving and put it away from the dive. The keeper ended up close to his post once the ball hit the net because he'd dived across when trying to predict the shot, which he got wrong because Tanto saw it coming. 

It went through the goalie!!! He placed it AT the goalie. That is not what you should be aiming to do. It went in which is all that matters but you dont need to keep trying to convince yourself it was a world class finish!

Talal

I think he should've back heeled it in

MuttleyCAFC

A first time shot at the keeper was harder to save than one to his right would have been. His movement was towards his post. I think any keeper would tell you that these are the hardest to save.

theroofisonfire

paulsturgess said:

Garrymanilow said:

Just on the discussion the other day about whether Tanto messed up his finish, this is a good shot of just after the moment he struck it:



Can't put it to the left of the keeper because the defender is there to block. The keeper is scrambling across and predicting a shot to his right which given how close it is he'd probably have a decent chance of stopping. As the keeper's already diving to the right any shot down the middle is going to be away from his dive and close to his body, which makes it hard to stop from that range. He's not got a huge amount of space to put the ball and I think just quickly hitting it hard straight down the middle was the best thing he could have done

I think you're still on last minute winner happy drugs cos you're talking rubbish here mate!

The picture you have just posted shows him firing the ball straight at the goalkeeper. In what world is that the best place to put it. Even though the keeper was preparing to dive, there was still an enormous chance of him blocking it with his legs or it hitting them accidentally. 

Olaofe was only a few yards out, there was an ENORMOUS space to the goalie's right to fire that into where the keeper would have had no chance. The keeper was at best in the middle of the goal and if anything was further from towards the near post where the ball had come across from. He should have put that in the corner out of reach of the goalie, that sort of lack of clinical edge is why we're struggling to score goals.

What he did well is just focus on striking it cleanly and on target / not skying it. It doesn't matter now, but really it should have been a better finish and as it doesn't matter now, there is no point trying to pretend otherwise for the sake of it!

What I also liked is the speed Knibbs was also following in (watch the replay for his hunger to get there).  Had their keeper got any sort of parry on Tanto's shot, then you would have fancied either Knibbs or Tanto to have been on hand to follow it in.  That follow up would not have been possible if Tanto had tried to hit the top of the net and blasted it over.  It's great it went in this time, but also great that we have players with the desire to get to the next ball.