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  • AberystwythAddick
    AberystwythAddick Posts: 1,170
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    You know it's desperate times when Nathan Jones has looked to me for advice on which players to sign

    https://x.com/i/status/1941118228635570263
    So you think this is a good signing then? 
    No, not anymore. 

    Attackers don't adjust well from league 1 and 2 at all anymore to this level. I severely underestimated this league, not as much as our recruitment team though.

    I'd be more optimistic if he was firing for Stockport and starting, but a club willing to loan out a player in a promotion push doesn't fill me with much confidence. 

    He looks a talented player, but I don't think he will be ready for this level. Happy to be wrong.
    Just looking at the championship top 10 goal scorers this season. Thomas-Asante jumped from league 2, and Makama and Burrell jumped from league 1 as recently as this summer. Just because we’ve not done it well doesn’t mean it can’t be done well. Our top goal scorer was also signed from league 1 this summer 
    I am sorry, but you might be a bit confused here. Asante was at West Brom in 2022, so this isn't his first season in this league. He is an established Championship player now.

    Makama and Burrell are the only two examples from a very large pool of players. 

    Here is the list:



    Out of that whole list of 24 top scorers, only 2 were playing in League 1 last season, Makama & Burrell. (Not including Stansfield as he had already played in the Championship)
    Yes but when he signed for West Brom he jumped from league 2 and scored goals for West Brom. Just proving that players from league 1 and even sometimes league 2 can make the jump to the championship and there’s plenty of examples of it 
    That was 4 years ago now. 

    His point is that the gap between the champ and the other two leagues is getting wider ever single year and that players that previously could’ve made the step up would now struggle to impact it because of this gulf in quality 
  • CafcSCP
    CafcSCP Posts: 1,477
    21cws said:
    CafcSCP said:
    The surprise for me was that we didn’t try and get Deji Elerwere off Bromley rather than Coady.
    Hes now at Lincoln and shouldn’t have been let go in the first place.
    they obviously think he can play league 1 and above.
    Can’t say he shouldn’t have gone. He wasn’t good enough had to drop down to gain experience and play. Again not the answer for now!!! Need leaders and experience to keep us up then build in the summer again. Look at derby now since staying up 
    Isn’t that what loans are for.
    was loaned to Bromley a couple of times.
    Would still have gained the experience and possibly at a higher level sooner.
    Hey ho though what’s done is done 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,023
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    You know it's desperate times when Nathan Jones has looked to me for advice on which players to sign

    https://x.com/i/status/1941118228635570263
    So you think this is a good signing then? 
    No, not anymore. 

    Attackers don't adjust well from league 1 and 2 at all anymore to this level. I severely underestimated this league, not as much as our recruitment team though.

    I'd be more optimistic if he was firing for Stockport and starting, but a club willing to loan out a player in a promotion push doesn't fill me with much confidence. 

    He looks a talented player, but I don't think he will be ready for this level. Happy to be wrong.
    Just looking at the championship top 10 goal scorers this season. Thomas-Asante jumped from league 2, and Makama and Burrell jumped from league 1 as recently as this summer. Just because we’ve not done it well doesn’t mean it can’t be done well. Our top goal scorer was also signed from league 1 this summer 
    I am sorry, but you might be a bit confused here. Asante was at West Brom in 2022, so this isn't his first season in this league. He is an established Championship player now.

    Makama and Burrell are the only two examples from a very large pool of players. 

    Here is the list:



    Out of that whole list of 24 top scorers, only 2 were playing in League 1 last season, Makama & Burrell. (Not including Stansfield as he had already played in the Championship)
    Yes but when he signed for West Brom he jumped from league 2 and scored goals for West Brom. Just proving that players from league 1 and even sometimes league 2 can make the jump to the championship and there’s plenty of examples of it 
    That was 4 years ago now. 

    His point is that the gap between the champ and the other two leagues is getting wider ever single year and that players that previously could’ve made the step up would now struggle to impact it because of this gulf in quality 
    If that’s too long ago then just look at this summer then. Out of Burrell, Makama, Olaofe, Kelman and Kone you’ve got 1 failure. Out of 5 players that’s not bad going for league 1 to championship striker moves
  • TheHerminator
    TheHerminator Posts: 942
    CafcSCP said:
    21cws said:
    CafcSCP said:
    The surprise for me was that we didn’t try and get Deji Elerwere off Bromley rather than Coady.
    Hes now at Lincoln and shouldn’t have been let go in the first place.
    they obviously think he can play league 1 and above.
    Can’t say he shouldn’t have gone. He wasn’t good enough had to drop down to gain experience and play. Again not the answer for now!!! Need leaders and experience to keep us up then build in the summer again. Look at derby now since staying up 
    Isn’t that what loans are for.
    was loaned to Bromley a couple of times.
    Would still have gained the experience and possibly at a higher level sooner.
    Hey ho though what’s done is done 
    A mate of mine is a big Bromely fan. He said Deji came on a lot in the last 2 years, like a lot. Reckons he'll go top end Champ now.

    Said he always had the potential and showed it in flashes early on, but has been brilliant recently 
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 24,450
    edited 11:36AM
    So Buffalo Bill has ridden into town from Wrexham, business completed with 3 days to spare...



    ...or is it...🤔

  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 4,012
    MarcusH26 said:
    I've missed a rumour regarding a defender called collins that someone has mentioned - please can someone tell me who that is and where it's come from?
    Collins Sichenje , 22yr old Kenyan CB who plays in Serbia for Vojvodina. Rumors come from Serbia that we've agreed a 1.9m euro fee  and been mentioned by Alan Nixon over here , Cawley hasn't ruled it out. 
    Ah yes, thank you! 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,053
    sam3110 said:
    NabySarr said:
    You know it's desperate times when Nathan Jones has looked to me for advice on which players to sign

    https://x.com/i/status/1941118228635570263
    So you think this is a good signing then? 
    No, not anymore. 

    Attackers don't adjust well from league 1 and 2 at all anymore to this level. I severely underestimated this league, not as much as our recruitment team though.

    I'd be more optimistic if he was firing for Stockport and starting, but a club willing to loan out a player in a promotion push doesn't fill me with much confidence. 

    He looks a talented player, but I don't think he will be ready for this level. Happy to be wrong.
    Which attackers haven’t adjusted well barring our own Olafe example? Genuinely keen to know. 

    Our strikers have struggled with a system that doesn’t work. I’m not sure that means they aren’t good enough to play at this level with the exception of Olafe 
    Not one of our attackers has adjusted well to this league. Can argue all day about playstyles and systems, but the fact of the matter is, our forwards just don't score.

    Take a look at Wrexham & Birmingham, May gone immediately, Stansfield was already Championship calibre, none of Wrexhams League 1 forwards are doing the same at this level, they had to invest. 

    It is very unlikely now a player can have the same impact in the league above, the levels keep getting wider and wider, just how it is.
    As mentioned earlier, our strikers are getting virtually no service. You know that more than most.

    Another poster also demonstrated that a number of strikers have made the step up the leagues succesfully. 

    To totally dismiss lower league strikers as incapable of stepping up I personally think is way off the mark.

    Also, that's not 'just how it is'. It's your opinion. You're not factually right and others are factually wrong. You need to adjust your language 
    He never will because "that's how he is" 
    To be fair nobody needs to adjust anything they write on here if it’s what they believe, just because somebody else doesn’t like it. It’s all about opinion, it’s just that some refuse to be seen to be wrong. 

  • I guess there is one saving grace of us being near the bottom during this window - keeps teams away from looking at defenders Jones and Ramsay. 😅
  • TheHerminator
    TheHerminator Posts: 942
    Sword65pf said:
    sam3110 said:
    NabySarr said:
    You know it's desperate times when Nathan Jones has looked to me for advice on which players to sign

    https://x.com/i/status/1941118228635570263
    So you think this is a good signing then? 
    No, not anymore. 

    Attackers don't adjust well from league 1 and 2 at all anymore to this level. I severely underestimated this league, not as much as our recruitment team though.

    I'd be more optimistic if he was firing for Stockport and starting, but a club willing to loan out a player in a promotion push doesn't fill me with much confidence. 

    He looks a talented player, but I don't think he will be ready for this level. Happy to be wrong.
    Which attackers haven’t adjusted well barring our own Olafe example? Genuinely keen to know. 

    Our strikers have struggled with a system that doesn’t work. I’m not sure that means they aren’t good enough to play at this level with the exception of Olafe 
    Not one of our attackers has adjusted well to this league. Can argue all day about playstyles and systems, but the fact of the matter is, our forwards just don't score.

    Take a look at Wrexham & Birmingham, May gone immediately, Stansfield was already Championship calibre, none of Wrexhams League 1 forwards are doing the same at this level, they had to invest. 

    It is very unlikely now a player can have the same impact in the league above, the levels keep getting wider and wider, just how it is.
    As mentioned earlier, our strikers are getting virtually no service. You know that more than most.

    Another poster also demonstrated that a number of strikers have made the step up the leagues succesfully. 

    To totally dismiss lower league strikers as incapable of stepping up I personally think is way off the mark.

    Also, that's not 'just how it is'. It's your opinion. You're not factually right and others are factually wrong. You need to adjust your language 
    He never will because "that's how he is" 
    To be fair nobody needs to adjust anything they write on here if it’s what they believe, just because somebody else doesn’t like it. It’s all about opinion, it’s just that some refuse to be seen to be wrong. 

    That's a fair comment. People can write what they like.

    But language such as 'that's just the way it is' is always going to provoke others in to responding. 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,023
    Sword65pf said:
    sam3110 said:
    NabySarr said:
    You know it's desperate times when Nathan Jones has looked to me for advice on which players to sign

    https://x.com/i/status/1941118228635570263
    So you think this is a good signing then? 
    No, not anymore. 

    Attackers don't adjust well from league 1 and 2 at all anymore to this level. I severely underestimated this league, not as much as our recruitment team though.

    I'd be more optimistic if he was firing for Stockport and starting, but a club willing to loan out a player in a promotion push doesn't fill me with much confidence. 

    He looks a talented player, but I don't think he will be ready for this level. Happy to be wrong.
    Which attackers haven’t adjusted well barring our own Olafe example? Genuinely keen to know. 

    Our strikers have struggled with a system that doesn’t work. I’m not sure that means they aren’t good enough to play at this level with the exception of Olafe 
    Not one of our attackers has adjusted well to this league. Can argue all day about playstyles and systems, but the fact of the matter is, our forwards just don't score.

    Take a look at Wrexham & Birmingham, May gone immediately, Stansfield was already Championship calibre, none of Wrexhams League 1 forwards are doing the same at this level, they had to invest. 

    It is very unlikely now a player can have the same impact in the league above, the levels keep getting wider and wider, just how it is.
    As mentioned earlier, our strikers are getting virtually no service. You know that more than most.

    Another poster also demonstrated that a number of strikers have made the step up the leagues succesfully. 

    To totally dismiss lower league strikers as incapable of stepping up I personally think is way off the mark.

    Also, that's not 'just how it is'. It's your opinion. You're not factually right and others are factually wrong. You need to adjust your language 
    He never will because "that's how he is" 
    To be fair nobody needs to adjust anything they write on here if it’s what they believe, just because somebody else doesn’t like it. It’s all about opinion, it’s just that some refuse to be seen to be wrong. 

    That's a fair comment. People can write what they like.

    But language such as 'that's just the way it is' is always going to provoke others in to responding. 
    Especially when if you actually look at it, it just isn’t the way it is at all 

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  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,053
    edited 10:30AM
    Sword65pf said:
    sam3110 said:
    NabySarr said:
    You know it's desperate times when Nathan Jones has looked to me for advice on which players to sign

    https://x.com/i/status/1941118228635570263
    So you think this is a good signing then? 
    No, not anymore. 

    Attackers don't adjust well from league 1 and 2 at all anymore to this level. I severely underestimated this league, not as much as our recruitment team though.

    I'd be more optimistic if he was firing for Stockport and starting, but a club willing to loan out a player in a promotion push doesn't fill me with much confidence. 

    He looks a talented player, but I don't think he will be ready for this level. Happy to be wrong.
    Which attackers haven’t adjusted well barring our own Olafe example? Genuinely keen to know. 

    Our strikers have struggled with a system that doesn’t work. I’m not sure that means they aren’t good enough to play at this level with the exception of Olafe 
    Not one of our attackers has adjusted well to this league. Can argue all day about playstyles and systems, but the fact of the matter is, our forwards just don't score.

    Take a look at Wrexham & Birmingham, May gone immediately, Stansfield was already Championship calibre, none of Wrexhams League 1 forwards are doing the same at this level, they had to invest. 

    It is very unlikely now a player can have the same impact in the league above, the levels keep getting wider and wider, just how it is.
    As mentioned earlier, our strikers are getting virtually no service. You know that more than most.

    Another poster also demonstrated that a number of strikers have made the step up the leagues succesfully. 

    To totally dismiss lower league strikers as incapable of stepping up I personally think is way off the mark.

    Also, that's not 'just how it is'. It's your opinion. You're not factually right and others are factually wrong. You need to adjust your language 
    He never will because "that's how he is" 
    To be fair nobody needs to adjust anything they write on here if it’s what they believe, just because somebody else doesn’t like it. It’s all about opinion, it’s just that some refuse to be seen to be wrong. 

    That's a fair comment. People can write what they like.

    But language such as 'that's just the way it is' is always going to provoke others in to responding. 
    To be honest mate, we all are guilty of provocative comments. It’s how we respond to them that could change, there’s people on here I would quite happily piss off with a sarcastic comment, but try to refrain from that not always successfully. Which is a bit sad really because I don’t know anyone and they don’t know me, but then form an opinion based on words that can be interpreted in various ways dependent upon how you read into things.🤷🏻‍♂️
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,220
    On further signings, we now have 4 loans so it’s likely we’d only see 1 more loan, if any. So beyond that signings would probably be permanent.
  • 21cws
    21cws Posts: 137
    NabySarr said:
    You know it's desperate times when Nathan Jones has looked to me for advice on which players to sign

    https://x.com/i/status/1941118228635570263
    So you think this is a good signing then? 
    No, not anymore. 

    Attackers don't adjust well from league 1 and 2 at all anymore to this level. I severely underestimated this league, not as much as our recruitment team though.

    I'd be more optimistic if he was firing for Stockport and starting, but a club willing to loan out a player in a promotion push doesn't fill me with much confidence. 

    He looks a talented player, but I don't think he will be ready for this level. Happy to be wrong.
    Which attackers haven’t adjusted well barring our own Olafe example? Genuinely keen to know. 

    Our strikers have struggled with a system that doesn’t work. I’m not sure that means they aren’t good enough to play at this level with the exception of Olafe 
    Not one of our attackers has adjusted well to this league. Can argue all day about playstyles and systems, but the fact of the matter is, our forwards just don't score.

    Take a look at Wrexham & Birmingham, May gone immediately, Stansfield was already Championship calibre, none of Wrexhams League 1 forwards are doing the same at this level, they had to invest. 

    It is very unlikely now a player can have the same impact in the league above, the levels keep getting wider and wider, just how it is.
    Get this man a beer, so true 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,023
    Scoham said:
    On further signings, we now have 4 loans so it’s likely we’d only see 1 more loan, if any. So beyond that signings would probably be permanent.
    Clarke is out of contract this summer so there’s maybe a chance we could change that to a permanent deal. I remember we did something similar with Andrew Shinnie when we ended up with 6 loans a few years ago 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,053
    Scoham said:
    On further signings, we now have 4 loans so it’s likely we’d only see 1 more loan, if any. So beyond that signings would probably be permanent.
    We can sign more on loan though can’t we?, it just means all of them can’t be in the match day squad, I know defeats the object a bit, but if it’s options needed and not too expensive, would that be considered?.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,220
    Sword65pf said:
    Scoham said:
    On further signings, we now have 4 loans so it’s likely we’d only see 1 more loan, if any. So beyond that signings would probably be permanent.
    We can sign more on loan though can’t we?, it just means all of them can’t be in the match day squad, I know defeats the object a bit, but if it’s options needed and not too expensive, would that be considered?.
    Yeah it can, that’s why I was saying possibly/likely, rather than definitely.

    If I was loaning a player out and wanted them to get game time I’d be less comfortable with them going to a club who already have 5 loans.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,053
    Scoham said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Scoham said:
    On further signings, we now have 4 loans so it’s likely we’d only see 1 more loan, if any. So beyond that signings would probably be permanent.
    We can sign more on loan though can’t we?, it just means all of them can’t be in the match day squad, I know defeats the object a bit, but if it’s options needed and not too expensive, would that be considered?.
    Yeah it can, that’s why I was saying possibly/likely, rather than definitely.

    If I was loaning a player out and wanted them to get game time I’d be less comfortable with them going to a club who already have 5 loans.
    Yes absolutely, much prefer permanent signings obviously.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 14,893
    NabySarr said:
    Scoham said:
    On further signings, we now have 4 loans so it’s likely we’d only see 1 more loan, if any. So beyond that signings would probably be permanent.
    Clarke is out of contract this summer so there’s maybe a chance we could change that to a permanent deal. I remember we did something similar with Andrew Shinnie when we ended up with 6 loans a few years ago 
    Ipswich have an option on his deal though and it sounded very much like they’ll use it if he does well here. Wouldn’t expect that to turn permanent at al
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,121
    If we turned any of the deals into a permanent it would have been the Bree one. 

    I expect if we have more than 5 loans at the club they'll be rotated on a "need today" basis.

    So if we need Coady, Clarke and Chambers to start a game, and we have Fevrier, a midfielder and a striker all on loan too, expect them to miss out. 

    Then, when we have a back 5 of Clarke, Ramsay, Jones, Bell, Chambers, you'll probably find Coady doesn't even make the bench 
  • Arry Addick
    Arry Addick Posts: 1,175
    fenaddick said:
    Penis out, presumably for Coady


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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,244
    NabySarr said:
    Scoham said:
    On further signings, we now have 4 loans so it’s likely we’d only see 1 more loan, if any. So beyond that signings would probably be permanent.
    Clarke is out of contract this summer so there’s maybe a chance we could change that to a permanent deal. I remember we did something similar with Andrew Shinnie when we ended up with 6 loans a few years ago 
    Haven’t Ipswich got a one year option? Likely to take it up to get a fee if they have.
  • Its such a sweeping generalisation though to suggest that League One strikers/attackers can't make the step up now. They evidently can, but those who go on to be stand out successes are fewer - just like many other transfers.

    There are a good few examples of it working even very recently:

    Ivan Toney
    Sam Smith
    Dion Charles
    Colby Bishop
    Ephrom Mason-Clark
    Conor Chaplin

    even dare I say Lyle Taylor.... If you go back just a few years then you have a huge pool of examples.
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,421
    The window effectively so far:

    - Dykes in for Olaofe
    - Fevrier in for Apter
    - Clarke in for Bree
    - Chambers in for Edwards (inj)
    - Brooks in for AMB
    Doesn't look great. We needed to improve substantially yet being optimistic, then imo, Dykes and Fevrier may be marginal improvements and that's about it.



  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,220
    Its such a sweeping generalisation though to suggest that League One strikers/attackers can't make the step up now. They evidently can, but those who go on to be stand out successes are fewer - just like many other transfers.

    There are a good few examples of it working even very recently:

    Ivan Toney
    Sam Smith
    Dion Charles
    Colby Bishop
    Ephrom Mason-Clark
    Conor Chaplin

    even dare I say Lyle Taylor.... If you go back just a few years then you have a huge pool of examples.
    Don’t disagree, but Dion Charles? I don’t think he’s played in the Championship?
  • TheHerminator
    TheHerminator Posts: 942
    edited 11:19AM
    Its such a sweeping generalisation though to suggest that League One strikers/attackers can't make the step up now. They evidently can, but those who go on to be stand out successes are fewer - just like many other transfers.

    There are a good few examples of it working even very recently:

    Ivan Toney
    Sam Smith
    Dion Charles
    Colby Bishop
    Ephrom Mason-Clark
    Conor Chaplin

    even dare I say Lyle Taylor.... If you go back just a few years then you have a huge pool of examples.
    This was exactly my point much better articulated. 

    To say that any striker in league one or two is just not capable of making the step up is completely false. Rarer than the failures yes. But still very possible. 

     
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,053
    Its such a sweeping generalisation though to suggest that League One strikers/attackers can't make the step up now. They evidently can, but those who go on to be stand out successes are fewer - just like many other transfers.

    There are a good few examples of it working even very recently:

    Ivan Toney
    Sam Smith
    Dion Charles
    Colby Bishop
    Ephrom Mason-Clark
    Conor Chaplin

    even dare I say Lyle Taylor.... If you go back just a few years then you have a huge pool of examples.
    I’ve been saying all season, it would be a more fair judgement of our strikers if we were creating chances and they were missing shitloads, but it doesn’t happen. Wonder how they would do if playing in the Coventry side?
  • Scoham said:
    Its such a sweeping generalisation though to suggest that League One strikers/attackers can't make the step up now. They evidently can, but those who go on to be stand out successes are fewer - just like many other transfers.

    There are a good few examples of it working even very recently:

    Ivan Toney
    Sam Smith
    Dion Charles
    Colby Bishop
    Ephrom Mason-Clark
    Conor Chaplin

    even dare I say Lyle Taylor.... If you go back just a few years then you have a huge pool of examples.
    Don’t disagree, but Dion Charles? I don’t think he’s played in the Championship?

    Apologies, you are quite right! I'll swap him out for a couple of throwbacks Rickie Lambert and Grant Holt  :D
  • Diebythesword
    Diebythesword Posts: 581
    Richard Cawley pouring ice cold water on the Lloyd jones “rumour”. Going nowhere! 
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 1,301
    I think some people really need to take a step back before they moan at almost every signing we make.

    If you look back at the Kayne Ramsay thread, pretty much everyone was underwhelmed when he signed and not that fussed. If you look at the Charlie Kirk thread everyone was delighted and thought it was a great signing. There are a few negative comments from when we signed Lloyd Jones.

    People thought Dobson was shit after his first couple of games for us. People had never heard of Conor Gallagher when we signed him. 

    And last but not least this classic when we signed Rak-Sakyi "I'll be very surprised if he starts a game or even gets on as a sub, surely there were better options available AND wtf are we doing Palace's development work for? I do not understand this signing at all."

    So the message here is to not get too carried away and see how these players actually do for us first. And before we criticise the board for not spending millions on this player or that player, remember that generally the players we pay money for don't do that well and the ones we least expect are the ones who actually excel.

    We spent 10m on players in the summer and probably the best signing so far has been Carey who was free.
    Ronnie still thinks Dobson is shit.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,220
    Sword65pf said:
    Its such a sweeping generalisation though to suggest that League One strikers/attackers can't make the step up now. They evidently can, but those who go on to be stand out successes are fewer - just like many other transfers.

    There are a good few examples of it working even very recently:

    Ivan Toney
    Sam Smith
    Dion Charles
    Colby Bishop
    Ephrom Mason-Clark
    Conor Chaplin

    even dare I say Lyle Taylor.... If you go back just a few years then you have a huge pool of examples.
    I’ve been saying all season, it would be a more fair judgement of our strikers if we were creating chances and they were missing shitloads, but it doesn’t happen. Wonder how they would do if playing in the Coventry side?
    If we go down I won’t be surprised to see players such as TC and Miles stay in the Championship and improve playing in better sides.