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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Middlesborough: Tuesday 09th December 2025: KO 19:45
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And in all that time 0 goals and 2 assists........NabySarr said:
Fair enough people have the view he needs to come out of the team, I’d share that view if we had anyone else to come in for himCharltonManor1966 said:On the subject of TC......
There was one occasion in the first half where he did brilliantly - took on two defenders on the left wing - got clean by them - then did his usual not looking up and failed to beat the first defender with his low cross. So frustrating!
Sorry FAand others but I have to now conclude that he is never going to be good enough at this level. A L1 winger at best and never a wingback in a million years.But this last bit is just a mental thing to say, he’s 22 for Christ’s sake he’s got years of development even if you don’t think he’s good enough now at this level, to write him off completely is just silly. Some people have really got it in for TC which isn’t nice to see
When we had our full team and he wasn’t having to fill in at wing back, he was playing in the championship for a team 6th in the league. Not sure that would be possible for a player that was never going to be good enough at this level1 -
I absolutely agree.The Red Robin said:I think the biggest problem is Nathan Jones being too stubborn: core team selection, style, and the anti-loanee thing.
The team is crying out for a change of formation.Because team selection for the past few games is just not working.
And loans is a must.We simply don’t have a forward who is good enough. Surely there must be centre forward somewhere in the premier who we could loan, because we certainly haven’t got a striker at present.5 -
We’ve played about 5 formations in the last 2 games (not including Pompey) alone. He needs to find a combo that works the most and stick to itBillericaydickie said:
I absolutely agree.The Red Robin said:I think the biggest problem is Nathan Jones being too stubborn: core team selection, style, and the anti-loanee thing.
The team is crying out for a change of formation.Because team selection for the past few games is just not working.
And loans is a must.We simply don’t have a forward who is good enough. Surely there must be centre forward somewhere in the premier who we could loan, because we certainly haven’t got a striker at present.11 -
Went Narrow and got exploited out wide on both flanks and to make matters worse they were passing it through us in the middle as well. Jones changed it but it made no odds in that first half and the 2nd goal right on halftime was the end of the match in my opinion
Boro like many sides in this division are a quality team and they took their foot off it a tad in the second half but were always in control until the own goal.
For us it shows the gulf from League One to the Championship and certain players are being shown that this is not their level, however there is no reason with a couple of key players back in the new year and a couple of additions in the transfer window then the priority of staying up this season will be achieved. It will be a battle though
The reality for certain individuals has now kicked in and the next 4 games are ones where we must pick up at least 6 points minimum and get back on that horse again before 2026 starts3 -
I thought we did ok 1st half,in spite of being outplayed,we defended well,and carved out the odd half chance.The goals where once again,errors.Gilespey and Carey poncing about,lose the ball and we go one down.Second goal came from our attack,TC should have done better,in their area,but in a flash they have gone the length of the field and done Maninski at the near post.I am in the AC stand,right behind the angle for the 2nd goal and have no idea how that went in,their was nothing to aim at.
I will defend TC,he is the only one who you can give a ball to will keep it for valuable seconds to give the team a break from chasing shadows,lack of end product is a problem,but he got us a lot of corners and throw ins when we where pressing 2nd half.
The half time changes worked,Carey and Coventry looked shot,they both need a rest(this is not a criticism),I have been asking for Anderson to be more involved and he showed his worth last night,making crunching tackles and breaking up play,also his passing seems to be improving.
We need to somehow get to 27 28 points by the half way stage,that would be on course to keep us up.
One final word,the crowd was piss poor,17000,maybe 2500 Borough,come on guys,the team needs us all there,not sitting in doors watching on TV.And before I get slated for this remark,I come from Medway,81 years old ,Over one hour and quarter to get there and 90 plus minutes to get home.12 -
Criticise him all you want. I'll criticise him for not covering his near post, but that doesn't excuse TC.ForeverAddickted said:
So have a good game, but make a mistake that leads to us conceding and you're immune from criticism?queensland_addick said:
Without Kaminski we'd have been 4 down before that chance even came along. No keeper is going to save everything. Kaminski was already well in credit on the night and was fully committed to the cause.ForeverAddickted said:
I've already said that TC made the mistake that led to the breakaway.Sword65pf said:
So it’s ok for everyone to sing his song when he was doing well, which seems a long time ago now, but not ok to criticise when he’s playing shit.ForeverAddickted said:
Sorry Prague you don't get it... It’s only TC that can be at fault for anything.PragueAddick said:
Not to mention Carey’s lack of care with the ball twice in front of our box, first time he got away with it, does it again a few mins later and bang, goal.ForeverAddickted said:
The break away is on TC, the conceding at his near post is on Kaminski, the letting of the shot away is on GillespheySword65pf said:
He bottled it , they broke away, it didn’t need to happen. It’s on TC.The Red Robin said:
This just isn’t true. Yes, it was a weak effort, he should put more of a foot in and he was one of the players at fault for this goal - but - they are then able to play the length of the pitch unchallenged, Macca gets caught out of position and turned inside out and Kaminski gets beaten at his near post.Sword65pf said:Not much mention of the complete bottle job Campbell in the post match, assume it was discussed lots in the match thread, if he doesn’t bottle it they don’t score. I think Campbell is very lucky there is nobody else NJ trusts in the same position.
Funnily though, no one gives a shit about Kaminski's error or Gillesphey's - If the issue is the fact that TC shouldn't have backed out of the challenge, maybe the fault is with the person who put the cross into him, and so put it into an area where it was too close to the Defender... Hmm?
But you refuse to acknowledge that others made mistakes in the build up to their second goal as well... Its that simple!!
Or do you genuinely think it was acceptable for Kaminski to let a goal in at his near post?
TC was not.
That's the difference
You're right Kaminski did keep us at 0-0, and should be commended for that... But he's also part of the reason why we went 0-2 down, so should be criticised for that, especially as it was a shot at his near post.
Kaminski was in a one on one situation with a forward who had scored 4 in his last 4 games, baring down on him from about 10 yards out. Whether he went near post, across Kaminski into the far corner, or high into the roof of the net, the odds were against Kaminski preventing a goal.
Kaminski tried his best, TC bottled it, and not for the first time.
He rarely puts in a tackle, he can't head the ball, yes he's very quick and can beat his man occasionally, but it rarely ends in anything meaningful.
He has three assists all season, and one of those, the ball was out of play. That is not good enough. He either needs to be rested or work hard to iron out the faults in his game.
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Missed that, not looking good?northstandsteve said:Dazzler21 said:I still have no idea why the Guadeloupe guy isn't getting a game isn't he a left back?
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Even those like myself that like TC would probably agree he’s playing too many minutes at the moment. It’s why his performances have dropped off, he’s knackered and playing 90 every game is not doing him any goodqueensland_addick said:
Criticise him all you want. I'll criticise him for not covering his near post, but that doesn't excuse TC.ForeverAddickted said:
So have a good game, but make a mistake that leads to us conceding and you're immune from criticism?queensland_addick said:
Without Kaminski we'd have been 4 down before that chance even came along. No keeper is going to save everything. Kaminski was already well in credit on the night and was fully committed to the cause.ForeverAddickted said:
I've already said that TC made the mistake that led to the breakaway.Sword65pf said:
So it’s ok for everyone to sing his song when he was doing well, which seems a long time ago now, but not ok to criticise when he’s playing shit.ForeverAddickted said:
Sorry Prague you don't get it... It’s only TC that can be at fault for anything.PragueAddick said:
Not to mention Carey’s lack of care with the ball twice in front of our box, first time he got away with it, does it again a few mins later and bang, goal.ForeverAddickted said:
The break away is on TC, the conceding at his near post is on Kaminski, the letting of the shot away is on GillespheySword65pf said:
He bottled it , they broke away, it didn’t need to happen. It’s on TC.The Red Robin said:
This just isn’t true. Yes, it was a weak effort, he should put more of a foot in and he was one of the players at fault for this goal - but - they are then able to play the length of the pitch unchallenged, Macca gets caught out of position and turned inside out and Kaminski gets beaten at his near post.Sword65pf said:Not much mention of the complete bottle job Campbell in the post match, assume it was discussed lots in the match thread, if he doesn’t bottle it they don’t score. I think Campbell is very lucky there is nobody else NJ trusts in the same position.
Funnily though, no one gives a shit about Kaminski's error or Gillesphey's - If the issue is the fact that TC shouldn't have backed out of the challenge, maybe the fault is with the person who put the cross into him, and so put it into an area where it was too close to the Defender... Hmm?
But you refuse to acknowledge that others made mistakes in the build up to their second goal as well... Its that simple!!
Or do you genuinely think it was acceptable for Kaminski to let a goal in at his near post?
TC was not.
That's the difference
You're right Kaminski did keep us at 0-0, and should be commended for that... But he's also part of the reason why we went 0-2 down, so should be criticised for that, especially as it was a shot at his near post.
Kaminski was in a one on one situation with a forward who had scored 4 in his last 4 games, baring down on him from about 10 yards out. Whether he went near post, across Kaminski into the far corner, or high into the roof of the net, the odds were against Kaminski preventing a goal.
Kaminski tried his best, TC bottled it, and not for the first time.
He rarely puts in a tackle, he can't head the ball, yes he's very quick and can beat his man occasionally, but it rarely ends in anything meaningful.
He has three assists all season, and one of those, the ball was out of play. That is not good enough. He either needs to be rested or work hard to iron out the faults in his game.
The problem is if you take him out of the team we’d be even worse. Even in the first half where TC didn’t play well, the only way we got up the pitch was by getting the ball to him. That’s why he’s always left on the pitch, because no one else in our squad can do that. Without him we’d be stuck in our own half struggling to get out even more than we are nowIf we had a replacement for him then I’d agree he should come out of the team, but Hernandez is the only similar player that can play there and he’s shit. Apter looked bright so I’d play with 2 wingers, playing TC at wing back isn’t doing him or the team any good3 -
The injury situation is terrible, and forcing Nathan into trying formations that may/could work, and until we get the likes of Bell, Edwards, Godden, or Kelman back the status quo will remain as I see it...🤷♂️
One positive from last night, apart from the Norm tribute, was the performance of Fullah, that lad is going places, long as it's with us, great...🙏8 -
Footballers are allowed to use their head !Southendaddick said:Loving the anti TC agenda on here
The ball wouldn’t come down to him on the edge of their box he could have done better but the fella ran the length of the pitch pinged a few passes and the keeper made yet another error and it’s 2-0
But keep blaming TC who yet again looked our most dangerous outlet, there’s a reason NJ always picks him
I would have TC over Leaburn every single week, now there’s a bloke that’s gone up a level too far, how many aimless headers last night….TC and Tanto has looked far and away our best partnership lately.0 -
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A bit of up and under in the 2nd half was the best we could offer. Plenty of effort after the break and at least made the Boro centre-backs do a bit of defending. Fullah looked lively and should be a huge asset in League One, should we go down.
The first half was a Boro exhibition match. We gave Alex Gilbert the freedom of the park in the 1st half and he took advantage. He won't have had an easier 45 mins. Technically, they were on another planet to us.
The diamond formation didn't work. NJ hasn't got a Gallagher or Cullen, so that formation is probably a no-no.
Until we can find a centre-forward who can get into double figures, we're really fucked. Last time we were in the Championship, we had TWO centre-forwards in double figures and it still wasn't enough.4 -
Everyone does criticise them. Far more than they do Tanto who has the same number of league goals as Leaburn and tends to show why Jones doesn’t usually start him every time he gets a chance. It’s nothing to do with golden boys, it’s the fact that the players who play less become footballing gods while the ones who play are apparently ‘total dogshit’. You swap TC and Tanto for 5 games and you’ll be calling Tanto that instead and asking why TC isn’t getting a gameredbuttle said:
Exactly. If they were both new signings everyone would criticise them. They are both total dogshit.DDOUBLEE said:10 -
First half was abysmal, the box/ diamond midfield reared its head again with 3 "attacking" midfielders not being able to attack much at all, Jones still guilty of forcing players into a system/ formation rather than what works - as evident by the second half where we had a nice little fight back and managed one really good effort on target (Fullah) so that was something at least.
Desperately need a left sided defender and in the meantime a solution - Roussillon to start ASAP but apparently he sounds miles off still so, January window chop chop.
Its decision time for Jones IMO either go full "back to basics" and grind out some proper awful draw's and 1-0 wins or show a bit of faith in a couple of players and go for it with Fullah and Apter getting more starts and game time in general.
TC continues to disappoint for the most part and as Apter showed last night we're not only reliant on him to get us up the pitch and make things happen, some bench time or playing him as an out and out winger may help.
Leaburn same as above but then we only have Olaofe to come in so meh, start one or the other and play to best suit the striker on the pitch.
Anderson and Docherty gave the midfield some bite when they came on and given our situation, to not start one in favour of the least attacking attacking midfield is mental really.
Kaminski - great game kept us in it and stopped a battering.
I dunno, something along the lines of 4231, easily turns into NJ's beloved 3 at the back in and out of possession.
Kaminski
Ramsay Jones Gilesphey Roussillon
Coventry Docherty
Apter Fullah TC
Leaburn
Kaminski
Ramsay Jones Gilesphey
Apter Roussillon
Coventry Docherty
Fullah
Leaburn TC
Lovely tribute to Norm.1 -
Plus TC is an option at LWB whereas Tanto isn't, we saw him on the wing a few weeks ago and it was atrociousGarrymanilow said:
Everyone does criticise them. Far more than they do Tanto who has the same number of league goals as Leaburn and tends to show why Jones doesn’t usually start him every time he gets a chance. It’s nothing to do with golden boys, it’s the fact that the players who play less become footballing gods while the ones who play are apparently ‘total dogshit’. You swap TC and Tanto for 5 games and you’ll be calling Tanto that instead and asking why TC isn’t getting a gameredbuttle said:
Exactly. If they were both new signings everyone would criticise them. They are both total dogshit.DDOUBLEE said:3 -
He got a goal and an assist as they strolled to a 4-0 half time lead at Hull in the game before.Simonsen said:A bit of up and under in the 2nd half was the best we could offer. Plenty of effort after the break and at least made the Boro centre-backs do a bit of defending. Fullah looked lively and should be a huge asset in League One, should we go down.
The first half was a Boro exhibition match. We gave Alex Gilbert the freedom of the park in the 1st half and he took advantage. He won't have had an easier 45 mins. Technically, they were on another planet to us.3 -
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Missed that, not looking good?northstandsteve said:Dazzler21 said:I still have no idea why the Guadeloupe guy isn't getting a game isn't he a left back?
If you saw his supposed warm up that may answer your questionIt consisted of taking grass off his boots, I shouted to Apter tell him he is supposed to be warming up, which resulted in the filthiestglare ever seen5 -
Is he stubborn here though? He’s always been a fan of the diamond but every time he has tried it across the past three seasons it hasn’t made it to the end of the game. It just doesn’t work. This squad is set up to play 3 at the back so he has to stick to that or we suffer. His selections are much the same; people don’t like TC and Leaburn playing but want Apter and Tanto in despite them not being brilliant pressers, Tanto being a poor finisher and Apter bottling almost every challenge which is what people are angriest at TC for yesterday. He dropped Docherty like people wanted and now they’re mad at Knibbs. No-one wants to see Hernandez but Roussillon isn’t fit so there’s only TC left to play WB at the moment.The Red Robin said:I think the biggest problem is Nathan Jones being too stubborn: core team selection, style, and the anti-loanee thing.The loan thing is also overblown; our issue is absences more than anything else. When players are fit and the balance is right we’re incredibly hard to beat. Getting a loanee in at LWB in the summer would have been helpful now but he also would have sat on the bench until Edwards went down and the parent club wouldn’t have been happy. I’m sure we’ll look for some in January to plug gaps and improve just like we did last year with Gilbert and McIntyre3 -
To be honest I would never ask whyTC wasn't getting a game. He bottles challenges, passing is dreadful and he runs atound in circles. As for Tanto we need to see what he's like after he's played a few 90 minutes in a rowGarrymanilow said:
Everyone does criticise them. Far more than they do Tanto who has the same number of league goals as Leaburn and tends to show why Jones doesn’t usually start him every time he gets a chance. It’s nothing to do with golden boys, it’s the fact that the players who play less become footballing gods while the ones who play are apparently ‘total dogshit’. You swap TC and Tanto for 5 games and you’ll be calling Tanto that instead and asking why TC isn’t getting a gameredbuttle said:
Exactly. If they were both new signings everyone would criticise them. They are both total dogshit.DDOUBLEE said:
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With respect, how do we know that, when Jones refuses to drop him?NabySarr said:
Even those like myself that like TC would probably agree he’s playing too many minutes at the moment. It’s why his performances have dropped off, he’s knackered and playing 90 every game is not doing him any goodqueensland_addick said:
Criticise him all you want. I'll criticise him for not covering his near post, but that doesn't excuse TC.ForeverAddickted said:
So have a good game, but make a mistake that leads to us conceding and you're immune from criticism?queensland_addick said:
Without Kaminski we'd have been 4 down before that chance even came along. No keeper is going to save everything. Kaminski was already well in credit on the night and was fully committed to the cause.ForeverAddickted said:
I've already said that TC made the mistake that led to the breakaway.Sword65pf said:
So it’s ok for everyone to sing his song when he was doing well, which seems a long time ago now, but not ok to criticise when he’s playing shit.ForeverAddickted said:
Sorry Prague you don't get it... It’s only TC that can be at fault for anything.PragueAddick said:
Not to mention Carey’s lack of care with the ball twice in front of our box, first time he got away with it, does it again a few mins later and bang, goal.ForeverAddickted said:
The break away is on TC, the conceding at his near post is on Kaminski, the letting of the shot away is on GillespheySword65pf said:
He bottled it , they broke away, it didn’t need to happen. It’s on TC.The Red Robin said:
This just isn’t true. Yes, it was a weak effort, he should put more of a foot in and he was one of the players at fault for this goal - but - they are then able to play the length of the pitch unchallenged, Macca gets caught out of position and turned inside out and Kaminski gets beaten at his near post.Sword65pf said:Not much mention of the complete bottle job Campbell in the post match, assume it was discussed lots in the match thread, if he doesn’t bottle it they don’t score. I think Campbell is very lucky there is nobody else NJ trusts in the same position.
Funnily though, no one gives a shit about Kaminski's error or Gillesphey's - If the issue is the fact that TC shouldn't have backed out of the challenge, maybe the fault is with the person who put the cross into him, and so put it into an area where it was too close to the Defender... Hmm?
But you refuse to acknowledge that others made mistakes in the build up to their second goal as well... Its that simple!!
Or do you genuinely think it was acceptable for Kaminski to let a goal in at his near post?
TC was not.
That's the difference
You're right Kaminski did keep us at 0-0, and should be commended for that... But he's also part of the reason why we went 0-2 down, so should be criticised for that, especially as it was a shot at his near post.
Kaminski was in a one on one situation with a forward who had scored 4 in his last 4 games, baring down on him from about 10 yards out. Whether he went near post, across Kaminski into the far corner, or high into the roof of the net, the odds were against Kaminski preventing a goal.
Kaminski tried his best, TC bottled it, and not for the first time.
He rarely puts in a tackle, he can't head the ball, yes he's very quick and can beat his man occasionally, but it rarely ends in anything meaningful.
He has three assists all season, and one of those, the ball was out of play. That is not good enough. He either needs to be rested or work hard to iron out the faults in his game.
The problem is if you take him out of the team we’d be even worse. Even in the first half where TC didn’t play well, the only way we got up the pitch was by getting the ball to him. That’s why he’s always left on the pitch, because no one else in our squad can do that. Without him we’d be stuck in our own half struggling to get out even more than we are nowIf we had a replacement for him then I’d agree he should come out of the team, but Hernandez is the only similar player that can play there and he’s shit. Apter looked bright so I’d play with 2 wingers, playing TC at wing back isn’t doing him or the team any good
As a matter of fact, let's look at the one time he was actually left out of the starting line up.
We achieved our best result of the season winning 3 nil at Ipswich when both he and Leaburn were far more effective coming off the subs bench.
Granted we had Bell that day, but it does prove that it isn't essential that TC has to start every single game.9 -
What happened when they didn't start at Ipswich?Garrymanilow said:
Everyone does criticise them. Far more than they do Tanto who has the same number of league goals as Leaburn and tends to show why Jones doesn’t usually start him every time he gets a chance. It’s nothing to do with golden boys, it’s the fact that the players who play less become footballing gods while the ones who play are apparently ‘total dogshit’. You swap TC and Tanto for 5 games and you’ll be calling Tanto that instead and asking why TC isn’t getting a gameredbuttle said:
Exactly. If they were both new signings everyone would criticise them. They are both total dogshit.DDOUBLEE said:1 -
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Players have dips in form and get tired that’s fine, but no excuse for weakness and bottling it all the time, which then seems worse when he’s not actually producing anything of note, at one point he had a good run and shit cross, proved he had his man and didn’t do it again. People need to stop making excuses for him just because he’s one of our own, he’s old enough and has enough games under his belt to be considered more than just a youngster coming through so he will make mistakes, that can be labelled with Fullah in time to come but not TC, he gets picked every game so needs to produce.NabySarr said:
Even those like myself that like TC would probably agree he’s playing too many minutes at the moment. It’s why his performances have dropped off, he’s knackered and playing 90 every game is not doing him any goodqueensland_addick said:
Criticise him all you want. I'll criticise him for not covering his near post, but that doesn't excuse TC.ForeverAddickted said:
So have a good game, but make a mistake that leads to us conceding and you're immune from criticism?queensland_addick said:
Without Kaminski we'd have been 4 down before that chance even came along. No keeper is going to save everything. Kaminski was already well in credit on the night and was fully committed to the cause.ForeverAddickted said:
I've already said that TC made the mistake that led to the breakaway.Sword65pf said:
So it’s ok for everyone to sing his song when he was doing well, which seems a long time ago now, but not ok to criticise when he’s playing shit.ForeverAddickted said:
Sorry Prague you don't get it... It’s only TC that can be at fault for anything.PragueAddick said:
Not to mention Carey’s lack of care with the ball twice in front of our box, first time he got away with it, does it again a few mins later and bang, goal.ForeverAddickted said:
The break away is on TC, the conceding at his near post is on Kaminski, the letting of the shot away is on GillespheySword65pf said:
He bottled it , they broke away, it didn’t need to happen. It’s on TC.The Red Robin said:
This just isn’t true. Yes, it was a weak effort, he should put more of a foot in and he was one of the players at fault for this goal - but - they are then able to play the length of the pitch unchallenged, Macca gets caught out of position and turned inside out and Kaminski gets beaten at his near post.Sword65pf said:Not much mention of the complete bottle job Campbell in the post match, assume it was discussed lots in the match thread, if he doesn’t bottle it they don’t score. I think Campbell is very lucky there is nobody else NJ trusts in the same position.
Funnily though, no one gives a shit about Kaminski's error or Gillesphey's - If the issue is the fact that TC shouldn't have backed out of the challenge, maybe the fault is with the person who put the cross into him, and so put it into an area where it was too close to the Defender... Hmm?
But you refuse to acknowledge that others made mistakes in the build up to their second goal as well... Its that simple!!
Or do you genuinely think it was acceptable for Kaminski to let a goal in at his near post?
TC was not.
That's the difference
You're right Kaminski did keep us at 0-0, and should be commended for that... But he's also part of the reason why we went 0-2 down, so should be criticised for that, especially as it was a shot at his near post.
Kaminski was in a one on one situation with a forward who had scored 4 in his last 4 games, baring down on him from about 10 yards out. Whether he went near post, across Kaminski into the far corner, or high into the roof of the net, the odds were against Kaminski preventing a goal.
Kaminski tried his best, TC bottled it, and not for the first time.
He rarely puts in a tackle, he can't head the ball, yes he's very quick and can beat his man occasionally, but it rarely ends in anything meaningful.
He has three assists all season, and one of those, the ball was out of play. That is not good enough. He either needs to be rested or work hard to iron out the faults in his game.
The problem is if you take him out of the team we’d be even worse. Even in the first half where TC didn’t play well, the only way we got up the pitch was by getting the ball to him. That’s why he’s always left on the pitch, because no one else in our squad can do that. Without him we’d be stuck in our own half struggling to get out even more than we are nowIf we had a replacement for him then I’d agree he should come out of the team, but Hernandez is the only similar player that can play there and he’s shit. Apter looked bright so I’d play with 2 wingers, playing TC at wing back isn’t doing him or the team any good1 -
Completely forgot Rankin-Costello exists* so could try and work him into the LWB role, we've tried wingers there and Bree and Ramsay you want to keep on the right, it wouldn't be exciting but if Roussillon isn't in sight and Bell absolutely can NOT be rushed back as he's needed to replace Gillesphey.... its.... something.... probably something disastrous but then we've got to see Hernandez play there so...
* Probably for the best tbh
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Southendaddick said:Loving the anti TC agenda on here
The ball wouldn’t come down to him on the edge of their box he could have done better but the fella ran the length of the pitch pinged a few passes and the keeper made yet another error and it’s 2-0
But keep blaming TC who yet again looked our most dangerous outlet, there’s a reason NJ always picks him
I would have TC over Leaburn every single week, now there’s a bloke that’s gone up a level too far, how many aimless headers last night….TC and Tanto has looked far and away our best partnership lately.
Being an outlet is fine but where is the end product? One assist in 20 games and no goals is just not good enough.
Why is it difficult for people to see that?
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To think we will get six points out of those three games I don’t think will happen. We can’t defend. No creativity in the midfield and we couldn’t score in a brothel. Apart from all that everything in the garden is rosy.Elthamaddick said:Oxford, Norwich, Portsmouth over Christmas will define our season.
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If NJ thought he could play there he would have by nowCL_Phantom said:Completely forgot Rankin-Costello exists* so could try and work him into the LWB role, we've tried wingers there and Bree and Ramsay you want to keep on the right, it wouldn't be exciting but if Roussillon isn't in sight and Bell absolutely can NOT be rushed back as he's needed to replace Gillesphey.... its.... something.... probably something disastrous but then we've got to see Hernandez play there so...
* Probably for the best tbh0 -
Lost to a better team and once again looked incredibly disorganised. We were a shambles in the first half and at least had a bit more energy after the substitutions.
Very little quality on display.2 -
For me, one of our biggest problems is that our general passing and ball control are not good enough. Short passes often don't reach the intended target.
We work so hard to win the ball and then give it straight back.
Randomly placed headers are another irritation. It can't be that difficult to either chest it down or find a red shirt.
Letting the ball bounce, which gives time for the opposition to chase the ball down and get a challenge in, is another constant source of losing the ball when we could easily have it.
I would like to see the statistics of how often a long cross field pass reaches the player compared to how often the defender cuts it out. Once again, we lose so much possession with this tactic.
And is it me, or do 99.999% of randomly loose balls that deflect off a leg somehow find an opposition player?
Simple logic as well. Against some defenders Miles struggles to win the long ball headers. In other matches he wins the majority. It's easy to see which type of match it's going to be early on in the game. So, during those matches, we should be anticipating the flick ons and already be running at the defence. Last night so many headers just ran harmlessly away.
Still love them all..... COYA5 -
RC may have to replace Jones at Brum.CL_Phantom said:Completely forgot Rankin-Costello exists* so could try and work him into the LWB role, we've tried wingers there and Bree and Ramsay you want to keep on the right, it wouldn't be exciting but if Roussillon isn't in sight and Bell absolutely can NOT be rushed back as he's needed to replace Gillesphey.... its.... something.... probably something disastrous but then we've got to see Hernandez play there so...
* Probably for the best tbh0 -
Belting goal too. Rifled in.Uboat said:
He got a goal and an assist as they strolled to a 4-0 half time lead at Hull in the game before.Simonsen said:A bit of up and under in the 2nd half was the best we could offer. Plenty of effort after the break and at least made the Boro centre-backs do a bit of defending. Fullah looked lively and should be a huge asset in League One, should we go down.
The first half was a Boro exhibition match. We gave Alex Gilbert the freedom of the park in the 1st half and he took advantage. He won't have had an easier 45 mins. Technically, they were on another planet to us.0 -
fenaddick said:
If NJ thought he could play there he would have by nowCL_Phantom said:Completely forgot Rankin-Costello exists* so could try and work him into the LWB role, we've tried wingers there and Bree and Ramsay you want to keep on the right, it wouldn't be exciting but if Roussillon isn't in sight and Bell absolutely can NOT be rushed back as he's needed to replace Gillesphey.... its.... something.... probably something disastrous but then we've got to see Hernandez play there so...
* Probably for the best tbh
NJ thought onel Hernandez could play there.....0
