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POST-MATCH THREAD: Blackburn Rovers v Charlton Athletic: Sunday 4th January 2026: KO 15:00

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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,645
    sam3110 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    sam3110 said:
    To be 2 nil up and them being that shit, especially the first half, and it being a relegation rival, it's unforgivable really. 

    We MUST beat the teams around us at the very least to stay up, people will say we've played well the last 3 games but we've got 2 points from it, and it should be 5 minimum 
    We played well against Cov, but we were distinctly average against Blackburn. But they started off piss poor and then we giftend them by bringing on the least convincing LCB in the league. 
    Bet Jones says we played well, he reckons we were great against Portsmouth in his post match interview 
    Well he's not gonna slag his team off in the post match presser is he?
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,474
    Having been critical of NJ for starting Berry, who was predictably crap, I must say Carey and Knibbs were no better. Why not try Fullah in that position, he is tough and skilful 
  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,109
    Only positives are Kelman goals, Leaburn is looking a handful.

    Personally think Jones is to blame with this system he refuses to change and putting players in positions they just don’t suit. 
    This and replacing Burke with Gillesphey rather than Gough.
    I also expected Gough for Burke 
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 25,037
    Four words. 

    Get Rid Of Gillesphey
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,645
    CAFCsayer said:
    That one is totally on Nathan Jones.  He is well in credit, but playing Amari'i Bell and TC on the left is fucking braindead. You either bring on Conor Gough or go 4 at the back... That was so obvious to everyone. TC shouldn't be playing LWB anyway but to have him being covered by Macaulay Gillesphey, who is a liability at the best of times, is a joke.

    On the plus side Miles looked quality and Kelman had another good game. We desperately need to sign a lwb, cb cover, a box to box midfielder with a bit of creativity and another option as a striker 
    Bell and TC were fine, it was Gillesphey and TC that fell apart. Or to be more accurate Gillesphey. 
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,751
    edited January 4
    Don’t understand why N Jones didn’t bring on Gough for Burke and keep the balance. Bell was much weaker on the right, TC was put under more pressure defensively and Gillesphey was a liability. Even Jones looked shakier than usual. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,604
    The only excuse I will make for that second half performance is tiredness. Having 3 out of 4 games over Christmas being away does take its toll. Coventry looked tired, JRC lacked the zip from his previous 2 games, while TC yet again played a full 90, in an alien and really physically tiring position.

    But you need to keep the ball better, as just hoofing it back to the opposition invites pressure on yourself, and increases the amount of running you need to do to keep them out. That's where quality shows. Bell is confident enough to control the ball, run with it and pass it to a teammate, whereas too many of our players treated the ball like an unexploded bomb, Gillesphey being the worst culprit today.

    Cantwell ran the game, as he has the time and quality on the ball that none of our players have.

    After that second half, I'm just relieved we didn't lose.
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,940
    Only positives are Kelman goals, Leaburn is looking a handful.

    Personally think Jones is to blame with this system he refuses to change and putting players in positions they just don’t suit. 
    This and replacing Burke with Gillesphey rather than Gough.
    This 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,495
    Biggest question is that if we know LCB and LWB are costing us numerous games due to lack of quality in that area, why are we still persisting with a formation that relies heavily on those roles? 
    Because the whole squad build is geared towards playing that way. Every time Jones has tried the diamond it's been disastrous and the box wasn't much better. Our CBs aren't suited to playing in a 4 either. Burke and Jones are the only ones and Burke just can't be relied on fitness-wise. We think Gillesphey is bad now he's worse in a 4, Ramsay isn't right for it and neither is Bell. If you push him wide then asking Bell to overlap as a LB is asking for him to get injured again as well. The squad has the same number of LBs as it does LWBs (they're the same players) and all we would do is make things harder for ourselves. There will be grandads demanding a return to the classic 442 but it creates the same issues at the back, we lose even more of the midfield than we do now only having 2 players in the middle and we don't have your old school traditional wide midfielders. Apter and TC want to cut in so there's no width and those are our only proper winger options unless you go full Curbs and put Carey at left midfield, which is more of the square pegs round holes stuff people complain about now. Better to continue at least with a familiar way of playing until we get reinforcements in than tear it up, play people out of position and just make things worse before reverting when we make signings
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,532
    Kelman and Miles looks to have real potential as a strike partnership , I'm still not convinced by Tanto - still looks incredibly raw and not entirely sure he even knows what he's doing when he gets the ball. 

    The LCB/LWB debacle will come back to bite us every time it's not sorted. Hopefully there's movement on both fronts this week. 

    Frustrating to yet again drop points , game management has to be questioned again. 2up away from home against a side that have their fans on their backs should be go for the jugular and kill it off. Instead sloppy goal let's them back in it before HT and then the equaliser just felt inevitable for the whole second half. 

    Need to sort the attacking midfielder options out too because none of them are impressing me at all ATM. Carey seems to have regressed to the player he was at Blackpool where all he wanted to do was shoot from 30 yards , Knibbs looks short of fitness when he came with a reputation from reading for his pressing and Berry looks way off the pace. 

    Some big decisions to be made , hopefully we can get the re-enforcements we so badly need. 

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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,645
    FWIW Gilly was fine alongside Edwards because Edwards defending and reading of the game was so much better than TC's but even then he'd still make mistakes. 
  • superclive
    superclive Posts: 1,819
    need to aign a right sided defender and lwb as a priority.  Gillesphey was shocking..ibthought campbell did ok 
  • Terrible second half performance but we shouldn't forget that we have had 4 games in 10 days, 3 of them away. Players must be knackered after that, particularly given all the travelling this has involved. 

    That said, and I know that criticising the blessed Nathan is not allowed, he really hasn't helped with some of his selections and tactics today. 3 games in a week for our sicknote Burke was never a good idea. Bringing Gillesphey on for him an even worse idea. And the worst of the lot, continuing to play Campbell as a wing back. For Gawds sake, he can't do it.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             And as for his continued insistence on starting Berry, words fail me. He shouldn;t be anywhere near starting particularly with Knibbs and Carey around.

    Finish on a positive. Leaburn was superb today, winning every aerial duel and holding the ball up superbly as well.  Let's hope he can keep that up and develop a very promising partnership with Kelman.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,447
    Disappointing not to hold out for the win given we were 2-0 up but at this point we're holding out until we get some reinforcements in. We need a LWB so badly. Can't risk Bell there, don't have anyone else at the moment. It wastes TC and it leaves us in trouble especially when Burke got injured. I do think it would have been better to bring Gough on and not leave our left side so exposed. Gillesphey just isn't at it unless there's plenty of protection around him. I think there's some overreactions on here though coming from how tepid we were second half and our lead, we needed to not lose this. It's a problem as well that both Burke and Ramsay are injury-prone and playing in the same spot. If you can say anything for Gillesphey it's that he's available. We need players in, that's the fact of it. A LWB is essential, another option in midfield and I'd like a pacy winger/striker more than a target man like Dykes. On the positive front, good to see Kelman doing what he was brought in to do
    Great post, sums it up in my humble opinion. I would add if Dykes is coming in that gives us an option to rest Miles, the fella has run himself into the ground in recent weeks. 
  • aso914
    aso914 Posts: 237
    Laddick01 said:
    Carey’s refusal to play a forward pass today was also really worrying. At least twice he had the chance to release TC into an acre of space and failed to make the pass.

    Looks low on confidence.
    Low on confidence or greed? 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,956
    My dad always used to say if you have nothing nice to say , say nothing. 

    So tonight I shall say nothing 
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,696
    moving Bell from the side we were getting targeted on and putting Gillesphey there was always going to end badly
  • Stuart_the_Red
    Stuart_the_Red Posts: 1,943
    LoOkOuT said:

    …Disappointing. Not good enough. With a two goal lead and Blackburn under considerable pressure as a team and as a club, Charlton will feel that this was two points carelessly thrown away. We don’t have enough in this side to capitalise on things when we manage to get out in front; and that happens rarely enough. Reinforcements can’t come quick enough…

    Sums up the whole match! Throwing away a two goal lead against Blackburn is unforgivable!
  • Nug
    Nug Posts: 4,641
    Of course theres a long way to go this season but that really seems like a missed opportunity to get 3 points at the end of a frustrating Christmas period for us. We looked really poor 2nd half, I agree with others on Macca and TC looking very susceptible down the left but Bree seems right off it to me, not sure he's bringing anything to the team right now. Burke looks good but just can't rely on him to play for anything other than a couple of games and then be out for 6 weeks. Still zero quality in midfield and players playing out of position, need reinforcements to stop this going down to the last game. Jones has done amazing things in the last year but I do worry about only having one way to play regardless of who's available to him. Just need to scrape our way to safety this year.
  • Sorry but TC weakness cost us the first goal. If he can't score or assist or is too weak to hold onto the ball when he is defending then whats the point of him playing. zero out of 3 jobs hes on the pitch for.
    On the other hand Apter isnt great at defending either but he can do assists and he can score goals. So he can do 2 out of 3 things he's on the pitch for.
    Logic says he should play instead of TC who tries hard but really can't cut it.

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  • aso914
    aso914 Posts: 237
    MarcusH26 said:
    Kelman and Miles looks to have real potential as a strike partnership , I'm still not convinced by Tanto - still looks incredibly raw and not entirely sure he even knows what he's doing when he gets the ball. 

    The LCB/LWB debacle will come back to bite us every time it's not sorted. Hopefully there's movement on both fronts this week. 

    Frustrating to yet again drop points , game management has to be questioned again. 2up away from home against a side that have their fans on their backs should be go for the jugular and kill it off. Instead sloppy goal let's them back in it before HT and then the equaliser just felt inevitable for the whole second half. 

    Need to sort the attacking midfielder options out too because none of them are impressing me at all ATM. Carey seems to have regressed to the player he was at Blackpool where all he wanted to do was shoot from 30 yards , Knibbs looks short of fitness when he came with a reputation from reading for his pressing and Berry looks way off the pace. 

    Some big decisions to be made , hopefully we can get the re-enforcements we so badly need. 
    I remember reading fans gushing about Knibbs ability to press and we’re seeing absolutely none of that this season it’s so odd. It makes you wonder if his lack of a proper preseason heavily impacted his usual fitness. You would think we’re months into the season and he would get up to speed but it reminds me of how unfit Isak was looking for liverpool because he missed a preseason. 
  • This Gilly pile on is a bit much. He was good at the start of the year but now is being asked to do hit parts and replace a very good defender. 

    Is he the solution? No

    is he as bad as some are saying. No. 

    His confidence is shot 
  • panther10
    panther10 Posts: 171
    edited January 4
    I remember derby away was in total control at halftime , but then nathan went negative mode second half and cost us  2 points ..same has happened today 
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 24,028
    And Macca wasn’t good enough in League One, let alone a Championship side. 
    Getting by on the tails of “that” goal at Wembley,
    but can’t see him hanging on for much longer 🤷‍♂️
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,645
    We'll stick with this formation because it'd been drilled into these players so long, but you have to question if we should be looking at another formation, maybe 4-5-1 so we can pack out midfield without leaving defence light? We're conceding too many goals and it can not continue. 
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 5,058
    Fair result. One point more. 
  • Fucking shit!

    Team doesn’t know how to win! Major upgrades needed in January!
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,756
    edited January 4
    As soon as it became clear we weren't interested in hitting them on the break we were in trouble. In truth we were lucky to come away with a point.