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POST MATCH THREAD : Charlton Athletic V Portsmouth : Tuesday 17th February 2026 : KO 19:45

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  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,661
    Painful evening 
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 3,324
    We looked every bit a 'Championship lite' squad there tonight.

    Unable to play the ball through the middle, restricted to pumping the ball up field, not winning second balls and no impact whatsoever from the bench.  Not even the most bizarre ref ever could hide the fact we were poor ... very poor.

    I feel quite miserable.
    We probably have the worse % pass record in the Championship. That is a big problem. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,464
    Pelham123 said:
    We missed our chance to sign local lad Ebou Adams when he came through at Dartford FC. Norwich snapped him up back then. 


    And? We made him look good tonight, a pedestrian midfield and gaps you could drive a tank through. He’s hardly had a stellar career, now 30 and what, one and a bit seasons with Derby in the Championship? 
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,538
    edited February 18
    The antics of that sub-standard ref may have affected the scoreline tonight, but not the overall result. We were comfortably able to lose that with our own special brand of ineptitude, without the help of the officials. Piss poor individual performances from the vast majority of our team and no sense of strategy, purpose or cohesion as a team. People have slated Kaminski for his keeping (or lack of it) and while I've no desire to defend him, I don't feel the rest of our defence should be let off the hook. What on earth were they doing? You can't give the opposition all that space and then be surprised when they take pot shots at you. Just because our strikers are shot-shy, doesn't mean every other teams' forwards are the same.

    It's very difficult to pick out any positives from that match. I have just three: 1. I thought Fevrier looked very good. Not just the goal but his enthusiasm, movement and ball control. Very good debut. I give it about half an hour before he is Charltonised. 2. Dykes had a good second half. Worked hard, got the assist. 3. We're still above them in the league. Though I fear that will be short lived if we have many more abominations like that.
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,179
    I love being back in the championship, but christ weve had to watch some absolute dirge at home this season as a result.....
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,243
    I will say goodnight but leave you with one crumbl of (un)comfort. 

    I am going to Southampton on Saturday. Reliably informed by Golfie Jnr that I haven't seen us win away since Reading in August 2019.  Probably only around 15 games tbf.......but you have been warned. 
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,983
    Sword65pf said:
    Would love to see the referees adjudication panels report on that performance tonight, surely it would make interesting reading. Absolutely not an excuse for how shit we were, but the bloke has to get some blowback for it with a few games in the Sunday league.
    I lost count on the bookings? Did we have 8 bookings in the end? Is that a record.

    I know that after 6 bookings, Charlton get a fine and then the club or Jones has to go to the FA to explain our lack of "discipline". 
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,983
    Just checked. It was 7 bookings. 
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,983
    Look at this referees record:-

    Very interesting:-

    Leigh Doughty Referee Statistics
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,240
    BigDiddy said:
    The first few pages of these threads are always angry posts with little longer term perspective.

    We're at 7 points from 12 since the Millwall performance - not terrible for a relegation-fighting team. We're also 7 points from the relegation spots and have shown real fight Vs Stoke and QPR.

    I thought a few things went against us today early in the game and it was enough to rock us. 

    1. The ref simply wouldn't allow any contact between players which goes against our playing style.

    2. Kiminski gifting Pompey a goal

    3. A terrible decision by the ref to award a penalty

    It's disappointing we couldn't recover but that's life in the Championship. Those whining and moaning about where we are in the table would be happier if we were 4th in League One. We're a new championship team - these results will happen.

    For what's it worth, I thought the Portsmouth players were a credit to their badge tonight. Fought really hard and deserved the win. 
    No - I don’t accept any of that.

    We were shite tonight and NJ is clueless when things go wrong.


    The problem with posts like that is that you never set out what your expectations are. 

    Do you think we should be comfortably mid table?
    I dont think we should be in any particular position after 32 matches. But what I do expect is to see some actual football being played. Passes from midfield along the floor for forwards to run onto. No wonder why Kelman can't score in this team - look at the goals he scored last season & compare that to the chances he has been given this. 

    I also expect wingers to cross the ball for strikers to attack. Leaburn is 6ft 5 but not once did he have a ball to run onto & head at goal. Was the Leicester match an aberration & tonight the norm ? Or was tonight the outlier & on Saturday we'll see Clarke & Chambers whipping in crosses for the strikers to attack ?

    TC had pace & trickery but 90% of the time he beats his defender & then creates very little. Feverier did more & scored to boot. 

    We may stay up but by God if NJ doesn't change his tactics/ formation for next season I couldn't stand another year of this mediocrity.
    Portsmouth did an excellent job on our wingbacks, never giving them the time and space to provide our attacking width. And once you do that, the first half tactic of having the two big strikers is completely neutralised.

    Fevrier did provide an attacking threat after the break, but as an inverted winger cutting in to shoot narrowly wide before he scored. 



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  • mascot88
    mascot88 Posts: 9,951
    If we go down again - I just can't ... 
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 28,405
    Rudders22 said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Would love to see the referees adjudication panels report on that performance tonight, surely it would make interesting reading. Absolutely not an excuse for how shit we were, but the bloke has to get some blowback for it with a few games in the Sunday league.
    I lost count on the bookings? Did we have 8 bookings in the end? Is that a record.

    I know that after 6 bookings, Charlton get a fine and then the club or Jones has to go to the FA to explain our lack of "discipline". 
    Probably best to send Curtis Fleming rather than Jones, or he'll end up getting us an additional fine and a touchline ban for himself on top.
  • Just home. The things we do for the love of this club. 

    Don't get too down friends. You know the way this goes. Unexpected wins will pop up. 

    Keeping the faith in this manager and these players.

    COYR
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,243
    Rudders22 said:
    Look at this referees record:-

    Very interesting:-

    Leigh Doughty Referee Statistics
    If I'm reading that right he's reffed us twice this season & given us 11 yellow cards & 2 pens against. 

    And averages over 4 yellow cards a game.


  • A real bad night. A toothless and lightweight performance. Even the usual consistently good players were off it and when that happens it’s just one of those nights. Draw a line and move on. We have enough characters in the group to pick the lads up and get them ready to go again. 

    7 points clear with 14 to go. We’d have all taken that in August 
  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 655
     Only way is up I suppose 
    Unfortunately, that is not quite true. Three teams will go down, and there is still one vacancy.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,811
    31 goals in 32 games shows where the issue has been all season. 

    The moment the 2nd goal went in the game was lost. 

    Midfield has to potentially be the worst in the division (minus Wednesday). 
  • Redskin
    Redskin Posts: 3,162
    If Kaminski's performance doesn't sound the death knell for his being picked, then Mannion should seek the services of a lawyer.
  • I don't think it's worth panicking after a bad result but that was so poor. Didn't start playing until the 60th minute which of course was far too late by then. 

    The issue we have is that our style of play is not exactly great to watch at the best of times, so when we lose it just compounds how average we are. No real plan B, no creativity, and an entire game plan based around not conceding and then nicking a goal, so when we go behind we tend to struggle a bit. Also not really convinced that Dykes and Leaburn works as a partnership, surely we'd be better off with someone like Kelman to run off of Dykes?

    Like i said, not worth panicking as there will be many twists and turns in the run in but we missed a glorious chance to move 10 points clear of the relegation zone and by Saturday night it could be down to 4.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 65,720
    Hmm. When he says we had the better chances I'm not sure what game he was watching.

    He does seem genuinely deflated in that interview.
    It was a low quality game, their right back aside.

    I know people love to slate xG but it does paint a picture on nights like this.

    Charlton 0.80
    Pompey 1.14 (0.79 came from a very harsh pen so 0.35 otherwise)

    Don’t think Jones is wide of the mark to say we had the better chances. But I won’t argue we did enough to deserve to win the game.

    If Kaminski doesn’t flap and Devlin doesn’t spank one in off the post, we’re talking about a 1-1 draw with a harsh Pompey penalty.

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 65,720
    BigDiddy said:
    The first few pages of these threads are always angry posts with little longer term perspective.

    We're at 7 points from 12 since the Millwall performance - not terrible for a relegation-fighting team. We're also 7 points from the relegation spots and have shown real fight Vs Stoke and QPR.

    I thought a few things went against us today early in the game and it was enough to rock us. 

    1. The ref simply wouldn't allow any contact between players which goes against our playing style.

    2. Kiminski gifting Pompey a goal

    3. A terrible decision by the ref to award a penalty

    It's disappointing we couldn't recover but that's life in the Championship. Those whining and moaning about where we are in the table would be happier if we were 4th in League One. We're a new championship team - these results will happen.

    For what's it worth, I thought the Portsmouth players were a credit to their badge tonight. Fought really hard and deserved the win. 
    No - I don’t accept any of that.

    We were shite tonight and NJ is clueless when things go wrong.


    The problem with posts like that is that you never set out what your expectations are. 

    Do you think we should be comfortably mid table?
    I dont think we should be in any particular position after 32 matches. But what I do expect is to see some actual football being played. Passes from midfield along the floor for forwards to run onto. No wonder why Kelman can't score in this team - look at the goals he scored last season & compare that to the chances he has been given this. 

    I also expect wingers to cross the ball for strikers to attack. Leaburn is 6ft 5 but not once did he have a ball to run onto & head at goal. Was the Leicester match an aberration & tonight the norm ? Or was tonight the outlier & on Saturday we'll see Clarke & Chambers whipping in crosses for the strikers to attack ?

    TC had pace & trickery but 90% of the time he beats his defender & then creates very little. Feverier did more & scored to boot. 

    We may stay up but by God if NJ doesn't change his tactics/ formation for next season I couldn't stand another year of this mediocrity.
    I will take this all day long over the previous five years of League One struggling.

    What makes you think we won’t continue to improve? We’ve made massive strides since Jones has been here…
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 65,720
    edited February 18
    wolfgang said:
     Only way is up I suppose 
    Unfortunately, that is not quite true. Three teams will go down, and there is still one vacancy.
    I’d much rather be in our position than the 4 or 5 teams below us. Work to do and I’m confident we’ll get over the line.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,205
    Was a painful watch as soon as we missed our first gilt edged opportunity. 

    Our wingbacks got no space out wide and I think the ref did influence the game because he bought every dive, and there were many, from Pompey which prevented us from competing in the middle of the park.

    Doesnt help we cant pass through the middle and i forgot Coady was playing in the first half. 

    Thought watching it from the east stand that the first goal Kaminski must have seen it late or a deflection or something to spare his blushes but no, it was just a godawful goalkeeping error. 

    Overall not what any of us needed midweek or any week.
  • Hmm. When he says we had the better chances I'm not sure what game he was watching.

    He does seem genuinely deflated in that interview.
    It was a low quality game, their right back aside.

    I know people love to slate xG but it does paint a picture on nights like this.

    Charlton 0.80
    Pompey 1.14 (0.79 came from a very harsh pen so 0.35 otherwise)

    Don’t think Jones is wide of the mark to say we had the better chances. But I won’t argue we did enough to deserve to win the game.

    If Kaminski doesn’t flap and Devlin doesn’t spank one in off the post, we’re talking about a 1-1 draw with a harsh Pompey penalty.
    I think we got away with the one in the second half though when Ramsay shoved their guy over. Looked far more of a pen than the one he did give and i'd have wanted it given if it was down the other end. Pretty sure the ref gives that if he hadn't given them the first half one.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,466
    31 goals in 32 games shows where the issue has been all season. 

    The moment the 2nd goal went in the game was lost. 

    Midfield has to potentially be the worst in the division (minus Wednesday). 
    Completely agree re: goals scored column.  It’s awful.  We have been very good on the goals against for the most part this season and it’s how we’ve gotten into the position we have.  

    We’re still in a strong position going into the run in but you are right about that midfield, it gives me nightmares.  No pace, no power and ripe to be cut through.  And it’s the same re; any permutation of which 3 he chooses to play.  

    This is the number one area we need sorting in the summer if we stay up with Docherty, Coventry and Coady being moved on.  The jury being out on JRC and Knibbs.  Carey is the only one just about hanging on, but I thought he looked very poor last night.  Anderson shouldn’t be an option either.  That’s one player out of 7 possible options there that I would say may have a case of staying 
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 16,214
    I mean yes the ref was absolute shit

    but when we are shit……we’re really shit, there’s no in between with us is there 
  • agim
    agim Posts: 1,149
    1) has it ever worked with two big men up top? 

    2) has anyone got the stats for us coming from behind to win this season? 
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,947
    edited February 18
    Haven't read through thread yet so pwr.

    As bad as the ref was we were worse, didn't offer up much if anything. Fewer shots and less possession, 3 goals conceded, looked like the away team looking to suffer ball a point with two tall lads up top.

    Fair play to Pompey worked the ref well and yes the pen was harsh but it was (and let us off with the other)  Clarke's brain dead early booking didn't help but doubt that single moment completely ruined our game plan and ability to grab a point, if a result depended on having a rwb without being on a booking then should have subbed him immediately..... so..let's be honest, we would have lost that regardless.

    First goal poor keeping, seconds a harsh pen but it is, third is terrible stand off defending.

    Another assist for Dykes and he continues to look a good signing, proper turgid football man, perfect for us but would nice to have a settled partner for him to work with, stick with one of TC or Kelman, Godden is injured again (ole) and Leaburn might not last long.

    When we're good we're good at NJ football and we can get by, but it seemingly doesn't take much for us to be bad, and, when we're bad we're honking.

    Well, we won at Leicester so this wasn't a must win game and there's loadsa points left or something or the other. #imapositive

    Wink (wank)

    Utter turd.


  • Just home. The things we do for the love of this club. 

    Don't get too down friends. You know the way this goes. Unexpected wins will pop up. 

    Keeping the faith in this manager and these players.

    COYR
    Home at 01:30 after that and still perfectly pleasant o:) .  You are a better man than me  :(.
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 4,200
    That was feckin’ shite 

    I said before the 3 home games I wanted 5 pts… and would take 4 as long as the loss wasn’t to Pompey 🤦‍♂️

    somehow need to burgle a couple of wins from somewhere again…