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POST MATCH THREAD : Charlton Athletic V Portsmouth : Tuesday 17th February 2026 : KO 19:45

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  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,644
    Not sure we'll win any of our next 5 
    Put your house on Soton 

    63%     safe
    37%     Big R
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,773
    edited February 17
    Perhaps consistency is a measure of quality and after that you would have to say we lack not only quality but consistency is beyond some of the players. The two wing backs were awful, both having a negative effect on the game, Chambers not closing down Devlin, twice, and Clarke missing a sitter and being skinned by Ali, constantly. We changed the shape, made three substitutions in the second half, and much like the Millwall second half, we actually looked worse, although we did score. Yes, the referee was as bad as I've seen but he didn't allow Devlin time and space, twice, to score from twenty five yards or fail as a goalkeeper to stop the shots. Moushino game with a game plan, it worked and stopped us creating but poor individual performances from of Charlton's players gave Pompey the win. A kick up the arse, again, and Nathan Jones will want a response, away at Southampton, West Brom and home to Wrexham, is pretty tough, we can't have too many more performances like tonight. 
  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Posts: 7,767
    oohaahmortimer said:
    Someone must have tasered Kaminski for that first goal , move your arms you twat
    The ref wouldn't have looked out of place in our midfield
    Apparently a fan called NJ a wanker 

    Well done to that fan 👏🏼 
  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,351
    cafcnick1992 said:
    The first few pages of these threads are always angry posts with little longer term perspective.

    We're at 7 points from 12 since the Millwall performance - not terrible for a relegation-fighting team. We're also 7 points from the relegation spots and have shown real fight Vs Stoke and QPR.

    I thought a few things went against us today early in the game and it was enough to rock us. 

    1. The ref simply wouldn't allow any contact between players which goes against our playing style.

    2. Kiminski gifting Pompey a goal

    3. A terrible decision by the ref to award a penalty

    It's disappointing we couldn't recover but that's life in the Championship. Those whining and moaning about where we are in the table would be happier if we were 4th in League One. We're a new championship team - these results will happen.

    For what's it worth, I thought the Portsmouth players were a credit to their badge tonight. Fought really hard and deserved the win. 
    No - I don’t accept any of that.

    We were shite tonight and NJ is clueless when things go wrong.


  • iainambler
    iainambler Posts: 974
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Siv_in_Norfolk said:
    CafcWest said:
    Nathan Jones remarkably restrained tonight - where was the screaming and ranting!
    Did it to a fan in the covered end as he was about to go into the tunnel.

    Was applauding fans... walking off... and something seemed to catch his eye/ear. He jolted towards the fans and pointed to himself saying "me?" repeatedly and then went ballistic and had to be ushered down the nearby tunnel
    Wonder got said to Jones then... If he's reacted that way to being given the time then it’s unacceptable. If he's been sworn at and had some unsavory comments thrown his way, then is it understandable...? - People have the right to be frustrated, but equally a bit of respect has to be given.


    Given the way we played fans will be frustrated and upset (understatement). Managers have to accept that they will get criticism and be called out - even if it’s personal and out of order. 
    If you can’t take it, don’t dish out shit football!  
  • Raith_C_Chattonell
    Raith_C_Chattonell Posts: 5,866
    We looked every bit a 'Championship lite' squad there tonight.

    Unable to play the ball through the middle, restricted to pumping the ball up field, not winning second balls and no impact whatsoever from the bench.  Not even the most bizarre ref ever could hide the fact we were poor ... very poor.

    I feel quite miserable.
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,682
    BigDiddy said:
    cafcnick1992 said:
    The first few pages of these threads are always angry posts with little longer term perspective.

    We're at 7 points from 12 since the Millwall performance - not terrible for a relegation-fighting team. We're also 7 points from the relegation spots and have shown real fight Vs Stoke and QPR.

    I thought a few things went against us today early in the game and it was enough to rock us. 

    1. The ref simply wouldn't allow any contact between players which goes against our playing style.

    2. Kiminski gifting Pompey a goal

    3. A terrible decision by the ref to award a penalty

    It's disappointing we couldn't recover but that's life in the Championship. Those whining and moaning about where we are in the table would be happier if we were 4th in League One. We're a new championship team - these results will happen.

    For what's it worth, I thought the Portsmouth players were a credit to their badge tonight. Fought really hard and deserved the win. 
    No - I don’t accept any of that.

    We were shite tonight and NJ is clueless when things go wrong.


    The problem with posts like that is that you never set out what your expectations are. 

    Do you think we should be comfortably mid table?
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,243
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    ct_addick said:
    Shit football….deserve to be in L1 playing like that…cant see us improving playing these tactics…. Struggle  to scrape wins and then get blown out every couple of games…..think we will be back in the shit after next 2 games….
    Look at Leicester's next two games and breathe a sigh of relief mate.

    My money is on them picking up more points than us for the rest of the season. 
  • jonseventyfive
    jonseventyfive Posts: 3,457
    Far to much punt it forward and hopefully we pick it up for me. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 98,434
    edited February 17
    iainambler said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Siv_in_Norfolk said:
    CafcWest said:
    Nathan Jones remarkably restrained tonight - where was the screaming and ranting!
    Did it to a fan in the covered end as he was about to go into the tunnel.

    Was applauding fans... walking off... and something seemed to catch his eye/ear. He jolted towards the fans and pointed to himself saying "me?" repeatedly and then went ballistic and had to be ushered down the nearby tunnel
    Wonder got said to Jones then... If he's reacted that way to being given the time then it’s unacceptable. If he's been sworn at and had some unsavory comments thrown his way, then is it understandable...? - People have the right to be frustrated, but equally a bit of respect has to be given.


    Given the way we played fans will be frustrated and upset (understatement). Managers have to accept that they will get criticism and be called out - even if it’s personal and out of order. 
    If you can’t take it, don’t dish out shit football!  
    If you cant take it... Dont abuse someone either then... Works that way too
    Football fans will always be some of the most precious to ever walk the planet... God forbid they get it back
    If the fan has kept it civil and have said something along the lines of: "I've paid my money, and expect a better performance than that" then Jones cant really argue, but if foul language starts getting used, you risk losing the argument.

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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,908
    CAFCFW05 said:
    cafcnick1992 said:
    The first few pages of these threads are always angry posts with little longer term perspective.

    We're at 7 points from 12 since the Millwall performance - not terrible for a relegation-fighting team. We're also 7 points from the relegation spots and have shown real fight Vs Stoke and QPR.

    I thought a few things went against us today early in the game and it was enough to rock us. 

    1. The ref simply wouldn't allow any contact between players which goes against our playing style.

    2. Kiminski gifting Pompey a goal

    3. A terrible decision by the ref to award a penalty

    It's disappointing we couldn't recover but that's life in the Championship. Those whining and moaning about where we are in the table would be happier if we were 4th in League One. We're a new championship team - these results will happen.

    For what's it worth, I thought the Portsmouth players were a credit to their badge tonight. Fought really hard and deserved the win. 
    Maybe I am part of the minority, but in this stage of football, unfortunately it is a pen. Would’ve been given with VAR

    I think it was a penalty, it seems that Bell's arm was in an unnatural position.  However, Portsmouth had a blatant penalty not given in the second half, swings and roundabouts.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,243
    ct_addick said:
    Think the apathy from the poor midweek crowds gets to the players…..
    Oh, so it's the fans fault.

    Heard it all now.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,418
    Before the ref acted like a prick we got played off the park, so much space In midfield and totally outplayed. That does not look good for the rest of the season and the fact it’s flipped its head on what we did before is so worrying.
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,773
    ForeverAddickted said:
    guinnessaddick said:
    Had we scored in the first minute, totally different game, but from then on, just nothing.
    Had that moment where Carey once again showed his desire to do it all on his own as well
    Carey's goals will probably keep us up but he is a brainless footballer, run and shoot, little else. 
  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 4,066
    cafcnick1992 said:
    BigDiddy said:
    cafcnick1992 said:
    The first few pages of these threads are always angry posts with little longer term perspective.

    We're at 7 points from 12 since the Millwall performance - not terrible for a relegation-fighting team. We're also 7 points from the relegation spots and have shown real fight Vs Stoke and QPR.

    I thought a few things went against us today early in the game and it was enough to rock us. 

    1. The ref simply wouldn't allow any contact between players which goes against our playing style.

    2. Kiminski gifting Pompey a goal

    3. A terrible decision by the ref to award a penalty

    It's disappointing we couldn't recover but that's life in the Championship. Those whining and moaning about where we are in the table would be happier if we were 4th in League One. We're a new championship team - these results will happen.

    For what's it worth, I thought the Portsmouth players were a credit to their badge tonight. Fought really hard and deserved the win. 
    No - I don’t accept any of that.

    We were shite tonight and NJ is clueless when things go wrong.


    The problem with posts like that is that you never set out what your expectations are. 

    Do you think we should be comfortably mid table?
    The posts are always so basic and black and white as well. “Clueless”, like the man didn’t get us up. Like Karen Fraeye. Add something to the conversation 
  • ns9
    ns9 Posts: 33
    Every bit as bad as Millwall. Really hard to believe how and why we were so bad tonight.

    A huge opportunity missed against a makeshift and very limited Pompey side but credit to them - they played exactly how we should have.

    We struggle enormously to win against teams with 11 men who press us. Our approach play on a bad day is absolutely dreadful and ineffective (and this was one of those days).

    Our clean sheet record is in spite of Kaminski, not because of him. It does our excellent defence a disservice that he takes the lions share of the praise for that record - he has let us down far more times than he has gained us points this season. He has had two shockers against Pompey.

    We’re right back in the dog fight now and face Soton and WBA away before Wrexham. Our return of 4 points from the 3 home games is damaging, and less than most hoped and expected.

    A lot of work to do, and a really bad night. Said it since the start of the season…we will do very well to stay up. 
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,274
    edited February 17
    Shambolic performance. Definitely down there with the depths that we plumbed against the Spanner’s and Southampton.  The midfield just opened up for the first and Kaminski duly obliged further with yet another shite piece of goalkeeping.  No argument with the penalty and they should have had another late on.  Midfield was absolutely shocking and the three were overrun every single time. There is just no movement from Nathan’s precious wing backs to bolster the middle and we were outfought for every ball and non-existent for every second ball. 

    There was nothing about tonight to be commended. 6 points dropped against one of the worst teams in the division who are in the middle of a dreadful injury crisis.  Jones should be bloody (I so wanted to swear there) ashamed of what he served up tonight. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,908
    BigDiddy said:
    bobmunro said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    bobmunro said:
    Busterblitz said:
    CafcWest said:
    Nathan Jones remarkably restrained tonight - where was the screaming and ranting!
    He went ballistic at a fan in the North Lower before exiting the pitch. He looked very surprised that there were boos for him and took exception to someone. Held back by Henderson and Kaminski
    He needs to take responsibility for that abject performance. He's likely paid 20 or 30 times what those fans earns who shell out their hard earned to expect to see EFFORT.

    Thats not necessarily on Jones though is it...? - You'd expect the 11-players on the pitch to be able to show the effort required without their Manager having to tell them to do that...
    Ultimately it is on Jones, he's paid to take that responsibility - and being so oblivious to that by being surprised at fans' reactions says it all. 

    Jones is not a long term solution and his- he is a poor man’s Conte or Mourinho. He will fall out with players, clubs and fans, eventually.

    I was at the game tonight and it was obvious we needed to change our pattern and tactics after about 25 minutes. We did not and that played right into their hands. Make no mistake, Pompey are a shite team that we made look good, through inept team selection, an inability to change tactics within the game and collective blindness in the dugout.

    If the squad is piss poor, that is down to NJ, Chapple and Rodwell and that is where change will need to happen in the summer, whether we stay up or not.

    Seriously, would anyone trust them with another £10m + in the summer?

    We were 3rd rate against Pompey’s second team of plodders. A joke.

    Rodwell should be nowhere near this, he knows f*** all about the ability of a footballer.
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,900
    edited February 17
    Think we need to look at NJ tonight , got starting line up wrong and also did not understand the half time changes when we were 0-2 . At home you can’t play Dykes and Leaburn does not work
    away when the home team has to be on front foot but not tonight .. it did not work. At ht changes had to be made but why did we go from two up front to 4231 ?? Surely Kelman for Leaburn was the move and we should have switched to 442 .. but we were never really in the game mainly due to poor ref blowing up everytime we got near  them .. Pompey counteracted our system very well but we had no plan b .. Two fantastic strikes , Kaminski never saw it I
    sit behind the goal and first time he saw it was when it hit his leg but he could not react another day that hits his leg and goes wide .. the pen was a joke and the third a goal to win any game superb strike in of the post … but even then we still didn’t go to
    two up front .. very good little cameo from Fevrier and excellent goal but we never got going whether that was down to Pompey planning or just one of them days .. 
    tough run coming up now .. so has Pompey so it’s still all to play for and we are in a decent position and think people need to remember before these 3 home games most had us down 1 win 1 draw 1 lose just not the way we predicated .
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,773
    oohaahmortimer said:
    Someone must have tasered Kaminski for that first goal , move your arms you twat
    The ref wouldn't have looked out of place in our midfield
    Apparently a fan called NJ a wanker 

    Could have been a case of mistaken identity, there were plenty out there who would have fitted that description. 

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  • raytreacy
    raytreacy Posts: 189
    What a crock of shit. Anti football at its worst. Portsmouth outplayed us all over the park and they have got 14 players out I would like to see Jones out at the end of the season no matter what happens. We play like Cambridge United under John Beck.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,840
    Just in. A sorry state of a performance. Clarke's first minute miss and subsequent 'head gone' moment and early booking set the tone for everyone else. It was as shocking as we've seen.
    Yes the ref was poor, but some of the 'basics' continue to go missing in this quagmire of a season.

    My worry is this.
    Jones said after the sorry Southampton and Millwall displays that it wouldn't happen again... It has.
    He constantly says the team will get more fluid. . It doesn't.
    He constantly says the team is evolving... It isn't.

    We have to hope and pray that he finds enough to squeak us over the line. It certainly won't be pretty.
     We are bang in trouble.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,243
    guinnessaddick said:
    Had we scored in the first minute, totally different game, but from then on, just nothing.
    You can go as far back as the Covid season. Score first & we hardly lose. Concede first & we hardly ever win. Over a 3 year period it got to about 34 games before we won a match after conceding first. That is 34 games of conceding first that we didnt win. 

    From memory there were matches against Bristol Rovers & AFC Wimbledon that we won after going 1-0 down. Last season I think we may have done it twice......but then we finished 4th so must have been half decent.

    It is just so depressing & so predictable. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,464
    ForeverAddickted said:
    iainambler said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Siv_in_Norfolk said:
    CafcWest said:
    Nathan Jones remarkably restrained tonight - where was the screaming and ranting!
    Did it to a fan in the covered end as he was about to go into the tunnel.

    Was applauding fans... walking off... and something seemed to catch his eye/ear. He jolted towards the fans and pointed to himself saying "me?" repeatedly and then went ballistic and had to be ushered down the nearby tunnel
    Wonder got said to Jones then... If he's reacted that way to being given the time then it’s unacceptable. If he's been sworn at and had some unsavory comments thrown his way, then is it understandable...? - People have the right to be frustrated, but equally a bit of respect has to be given.


    Given the way we played fans will be frustrated and upset (understatement). Managers have to accept that they will get criticism and be called out - even if it’s personal and out of order. 
    If you can’t take it, don’t dish out shit football!  
    If you cant take it... Dont abuse someone either then... Works that way too
    Football fans will always be some of the most precious to ever walk the planet... God forbid they get it back
    If the fan has kept it civil and have said something along the lines of: "I've paid my money, and expect a better performance than that" then Jones cant really argue, but if foul language starts getting used, you risk losing the argument.
    But Jones himself ranted at the Stoke fans last week and called them wankers. Swings and roundabouts.
  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,351
    cafcnick1992 said:
    BigDiddy said:
    cafcnick1992 said:
    The first few pages of these threads are always angry posts with little longer term perspective.

    We're at 7 points from 12 since the Millwall performance - not terrible for a relegation-fighting team. We're also 7 points from the relegation spots and have shown real fight Vs Stoke and QPR.

    I thought a few things went against us today early in the game and it was enough to rock us. 

    1. The ref simply wouldn't allow any contact between players which goes against our playing style.

    2. Kiminski gifting Pompey a goal

    3. A terrible decision by the ref to award a penalty

    It's disappointing we couldn't recover but that's life in the Championship. Those whining and moaning about where we are in the table would be happier if we were 4th in League One. We're a new championship team - these results will happen.

    For what's it worth, I thought the Portsmouth players were a credit to their badge tonight. Fought really hard and deserved the win. 
    No - I don’t accept any of that.

    We were shite tonight and NJ is clueless when things go wrong.


    The problem with posts like that is that you never set out what your expectations are. 

    Do you think we should be comfortably mid table?
    I expect our manager and club to be able to work out we need a midfield way better than we have.

    That has been obvious all season. I also expect that our manager can deploy tactics that have half a chance of working when we go behind in a game.

    It’s not for any fan to determine where we end up in this league, but the manager seems incapable when things go wrong.

    If we stay up this season, that does not mean that NJ should remain, in my view.

    The owners need to work out how we remain and thrive in this league, or we will end up back in L1 in front of 11,000 fans.







  • The Prince-e-Paul
    The Prince-e-Paul Posts: 6,791
    Forget 2nd ball knock-down, they seemed to be getting the first header on almost every punt (way too many) up the pitch and when the ball was on the ground, they were showing for the ball better and always seemed to be between our man and the ball. 

    I wouldn't say that Portsmouth were great, despite the scoreline, but they were efficient. We on the other hand were wasteful in possession and went to type of lump ball which they handle sooooo easily. 

    Our goal showed that Portsmouth had a soft underbelly but we didn't do much to expose it. 

    No plan B tonight. 

    N. Jones and the team = D minus tonight. 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,773
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    CAFCFW05 said:
    cafcnick1992 said:
    The first few pages of these threads are always angry posts with little longer term perspective.

    We're at 7 points from 12 since the Millwall performance - not terrible for a relegation-fighting team. We're also 7 points from the relegation spots and have shown real fight Vs Stoke and QPR.

    I thought a few things went against us today early in the game and it was enough to rock us. 

    1. The ref simply wouldn't allow any contact between players which goes against our playing style.

    2. Kiminski gifting Pompey a goal

    3. A terrible decision by the ref to award a penalty

    It's disappointing we couldn't recover but that's life in the Championship. Those whining and moaning about where we are in the table would be happier if we were 4th in League One. We're a new championship team - these results will happen.

    For what's it worth, I thought the Portsmouth players were a credit to their badge tonight. Fought really hard and deserved the win. 
    Maybe I am part of the minority, but in this stage of football, unfortunately it is a pen. Would’ve been given with VAR

    I think it was a penalty, it seems that Bell's arm was in an unnatural position.  However, Portsmouth had a blatant penalty not given in the second half, swings and roundabouts.
    Definitely a pen and the booking of Adams was harsh as well, it was more a coming together in the challenge.  
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 98,434
    edited February 17
    LargeAddick said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    iainambler said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Siv_in_Norfolk said:
    CafcWest said:
    Nathan Jones remarkably restrained tonight - where was the screaming and ranting!
    Did it to a fan in the covered end as he was about to go into the tunnel.

    Was applauding fans... walking off... and something seemed to catch his eye/ear. He jolted towards the fans and pointed to himself saying "me?" repeatedly and then went ballistic and had to be ushered down the nearby tunnel
    Wonder got said to Jones then... If he's reacted that way to being given the time then it’s unacceptable. If he's been sworn at and had some unsavory comments thrown his way, then is it understandable...? - People have the right to be frustrated, but equally a bit of respect has to be given.


    Given the way we played fans will be frustrated and upset (understatement). Managers have to accept that they will get criticism and be called out - even if it’s personal and out of order. 
    If you can’t take it, don’t dish out shit football!  
    If you cant take it... Dont abuse someone either then... Works that way too
    Football fans will always be some of the most precious to ever walk the planet... God forbid they get it back
    If the fan has kept it civil and have said something along the lines of: "I've paid my money, and expect a better performance than that" then Jones cant really argue, but if foul language starts getting used, you risk losing the argument.
    But Jones himself ranted at the Stoke fans last week and called them wankers. Swings and roundabouts.
    From what I read post-match, he'd been getting less than acceptable comments from their fans all game
    So in that situation, was it okay for him to take it, and not give it back?
    I'm not defending what he's done tonight, I'm just not willing to throw him on the fire without the full facts
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,203
    We were shite tonight. Absolutely no clue what to do with the ball and brain dead off it. We have zero creativity. 

    Ebou Adams is an absolute slag of a footballer. Yet still I wish he was in our midfield instead. 

    The ref was a prick as well. Pretty sure he was on commission for giving out yellow cards. It’s a miracle nobody was sent off. 
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,840
    The Prince-e-Paul said:
    Forget 2nd ball knock-down, they seemed to be getting the first header on almost every punt (way too many) up the pitch and when the ball was on the ground, they were showing for the ball better and always seemed to be between our man and the ball. 

    I wouldn't say that Portsmouth were great, despite the scoreline, but they were efficient. We on the other hand were wasteful in possession and went to type of lump ball which they handle sooooo easily. 

    Our goal showed that Portsmouth had a soft underbelly but we didn't do much to expose it. 

    No plan B tonight. 

    N. Jones and the team = D minus tonight. 
     That happens nearly every week. Not sure if it's a vast  difference in class or a coaching unit that don't have the knowhow to address it?

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